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Old 01-13-2021, 10:59 AM   #1
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Audi RS 3 (2021) again with five-cylinder turbo
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Ever since the presentation of the new A3, everything has actually been waiting for the most powerful variant - the RS 3. When it comes to performance, Audi will not spoil it. It stays with the five-cylinder turbo. Frank Michel, Head of Sales and Marketing at Audi Sport, let this shine through to Auto Express. The 2.5-liter engine with 420 HP and 500 Nm could increase 20 HP and 20 Nm respectively compared to its predecessor. A seven-speed DSG is still used for shifting. For the standard sprint, the three could come before the decimal point.

The RS 3 currently needs 4.1 seconds to run from zero to 100 km / h. The top speed should continue to be - electronically limited - at 250 km / h and be increased to 280 km / h for an extra charge. There is also speculation about whether the RS 3 will get a new all-wheel drive system from VW. More precisely that from the Golf 8 R and Tiguan R. There, the rear axle drive distributes the torque not only between the front and rear axles, but also between the rear wheels.

Visually much more aggressive than the base

Visually, Audi should also go a step further with the compact sports car and design it extra wickedly. Reason enough for the AUTO BILD draftsman to create an illustration of the RS 3 based on ErlkŲnigen. The front should have significantly larger air inlets and a frameless single-frame grill like the RS Q3. In addition, the Sport-A3 gets much wider fenders, which makes it look beefier. The roof edge spoiler at the rear is also growing and, like the other RS ***8203;***8203;models, is shaped more so that a central indentation is created. The color of the taillights is also based on RS 6 and Co: The glass is a tad darker than the regular model. A real eye-catcher should be the new apron with an embedded diffuser and two large oval tailpipes.

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Audi is likely to present the new RS 3 in autumn 2021, and it could be available at dealerships by the end of the year. In terms of price, the power compact will probably cost a little less than 60,000 euros, in the base.
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Old 01-13-2021, 11:18 AM   #2
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I think the RS3 is probably my closest to ideal every day car.
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Old 01-13-2021, 12:24 PM   #3
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I think the RS3 is probably my closest to ideal every day car.
Agreed Professor. Just can't bring myself to that transverse layout with the Haldex system. Miss the smaller packaging of the B5 A4.
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Old 01-13-2021, 01:35 PM   #4
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Miss the smaller packaging of the B5 A4.
Me too. I think the A4 is a much better platform than the Sedan-Golf-Haldex A3, but it's just so big now.

Modern cars and my preferences seem to be diverging, so a perfect fit is too much to ask.
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Old 01-13-2021, 03:45 PM   #5
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Me too. I think the A4 is a much better platform than the Sedan-Golf-Haldex A3, but it's just so big now.

Modern cars and my preferences seem to be diverging, so a perfect fit is too much to ask.
O/T let's see what Acura offers with it's new sedan. If it comes with AWD I may be sold on it, if it comes with DWS/AWD and Manual I will definitely be sold.
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Old 01-13-2021, 03:57 PM   #6
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O/T let's see what Acura offers with it's new sedan. If it comes with AWD I may be sold on it, if it comes with DWS/AWD and Manual I will definitely be sold.
The new Acura looks nice but itís a class bigger than what I need. I really hope that Acura offers an ILX Type S with the civic type R engine and AWD at some point. That would get my attention.
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the current 3 hatchback is gorgeous... so disappointing that we'll never get it.
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The 5-cylinder engine is the best and worst thing about this car. Best in that it's a great engine and makes the car very fast in a straight line. Worst in that the added weight over the front axle makes the car an understeering pig even with staggered setup.
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The 5-cylinder engine is the best and worst thing about this car. Best in that it's a great engine and makes the car very fast in a straight line. Worst in that the added weight over the front axle makes the car an understeering pig even with staggered setup.
With the Golf R getting more front camber, I expect the RS will get more front camber? That should help a bit.
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Wish they'd apply the box fenders they do with the RS4 and RS6 to their RS sedans. I don't like the rounded swoopy integrated look of the RS3 and RS5. Looks like they tried real hard to make larger fenders without looking like they did.
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Old 06-23-2021, 01:37 PM   #11
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Oh my goodness. They stole the color and front side vents from a Civic SI



and turned them up to 11


I liked that Civic, so I like this RS3, but sooooo many people complained about the black plastic on the front end
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Old 06-23-2021, 02:01 PM   #12
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Oh wow that's ugly. Looks like a KIA but more tacky. Used RS3 prices are going to go up even more now.
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Old 06-23-2021, 08:41 PM   #13
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Nearly the entire front end is grille now. Where do they go from here? Incorporating grille into the hood and fenders? The side profile is pretty vanilla as there's little in the way of curves or fender bulges. New Audi's are looking a little stale IMO.
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Old 06-23-2021, 08:59 PM   #14
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Nearly the entire front end is grille now. Where do they go from here? Incorporating grille into the hood and fenders? The side profile is pretty vanilla as there's little in the way of curves or fender bulges. New Audi's are looking a little stale IMO.
They made the same mistake as the first refreshed 6th gen Camaro. Having the upper grill and lower grills connect makes for an ugly black mass right in the front. A body colored line in the middle (just like the civic has) would break it up nicely.
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They made the same mistake as the first refreshed 6th gen Camaro. Having the upper grill and lower grills connect makes for an ugly black mass right in the front. A body colored line in the middle (just like the civic has) would break it up nicely.
Works on the Lexus IS, but this RS3 is a S*** ton of grill, where the Lexus is (surprisingly) "conservative" by modern standards.
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Works on the Lexus IS, but this RS3 is a S*** ton of grill, where the Lexus is (surprisingly) "conservative" by modern standards.
I think it's two things on the IS that make it work



There's a fair bit of paint between the headlights and the grill, and there's a very strong hint of "upper grill" and "lower grill" separation due to the way that the grill pinches in.

The RS3 in comparison looks really crudely styled. It might look awesome in person though. Who knows.
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They made the same mistake as the first refreshed 6th gen Camaro. Having the upper grill and lower grills connect makes for an ugly black mass right in the front. A body colored line in the middle (just like the civic has) would break it up nicely.
Your correct. Like always follow the money. So cheapest way to get air in there. Big black honey comb mass across the front. I don't get out to dealer lots much these days. It was interesting to speak with some buyer at big multi brand dealership recently. Everyone expressed their opinions on several brands styling. Lexus, Everyone Dislikes Their Front Ends ugly Razor Blade front grilles. Also, everyone disliked the tail lights on the Civics. The whole boy racer Type R. The center stack console In the Acura also the Badge on front grill to big. But the Manufactures aren't listening. They usually wait till it's to late.
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The shiny black plastic from the headlights down to the front lip looks cheap and lazy. There's actually very little paint on the bumper cover as it's just the surround about the side vents and lip. Like I said before they have gone so far with the big grilles that the only way they can move forward is to start shrinking them again as I feel we have hit the point of saturation with big grilles. There's simply not much more that can be done and automakers are going to have to start getting back to work after coasting this decade covering front ends with a lot of black plastic. Maybe as things go EV it all goes the way of Tesla with no grilles?
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I found their inspiration for the front end/grill design.

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You can bbq an entire cow on that grill
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Audi's hot compact returns next spring.
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Unlike some automakers as of late, Audi is revealing its returning compact car from the bottom trims up. That means that instead of the Audi RS3 coming out before the A3 and S3, like a Mercedes-AMG, we were treated to info on its less expensive brethren before we got to talk about the new high-performance, track-ready version. The only thing we could talk about last month was the RS3's new "Torque Splitter," a new piece of tech that replaces the rear axle differential and the previous multiple disc clutch package.

It now uses an electronically controlled multiple disc clutch on each of the drive shafts to distribute the right amount of torque along the rear axle. During high-performance driving, the torque splitter increases the drive torque to the outer rear wheel, which reduces understeer. It can also be used for sweet drifts in RS Torque Rear mode.

The 2022 Audi RS3, available next spring, continues with its turbocharged inline five-cylinder engine, inspired by its rally cars of the last century. The firing order is the same, 1,2,4,5,3, as those championship-winning vehicles, and output is now rated at 401 hp, seven horses up from the previous model. Torque is rated at 369 lb-ft (an increase of 7 lb-ft). Torque maxes out at just 2,250 rpm and continues until 5,600 rpm, and max power comes in earlier too.

That's good for a supercar-like 0-60 mph sprint of 3.8 seconds and a top speed of either 155 mph or 174 mph, depending on options. A seven-speed dual-clutch transmission distributes power too all four wheels and the RS3 now sports a variable exhaust control flap for a broader sound.

The standard RS suspension features new shocks and valve system that are both specific to the RS3. Audi says they respond faster and more efficiently. Adaptive dampers are optional, which continually adjust to the road and chosen drive mode. The wheels also have more camber than the previous model, which leads to a sharper steering response and increased cornering force, says Audi. The fronts have 1 degree of additional camber over the A3. The rear wheels have half a degree extra.

Audi had to modify the pivot bearings, and new bearings were equipped in the lower wishbones, subframes and stabilizers at the front. The four-link rear gets upgraded over the A3 as well. The RS3 sits about an inch lower than that car.
All of the suspension data is captured and analyzed by the new modular vehicle dynamics controller, which then synchronizes the Torque Splitter, adaptive dampers and wheel-selected torque control. It makes the car handle better, is the short version. The RS3 is offered with either steel or carbon ceramic brakes with six-piston calipers in several colors.

The new RS3 gets a more aggressive and futuristic look than its predecessor with slim daytime running lights and checkered flag lights below. Matrix LEDs are optional. The intakes are bigger as is the central opening. It gets a new air outlet behind the front tires and redesigned rocker panels on both sides. The rear sticks with two tailpipes but gets a black grille just above as opposed to the body color on the previous model. A new selection of 19-inch wheels are available and if ordered, Audi will mount semi-slick Pirelli Trofeo R tires.

Inside, the RS3 features the Audi virtual cockpit plus along with a 12.3-inch screen. In addition to your normal navigation and media function, it also has a selection of specific screens for things like power and torque percentages. You can also display the gauges in RS Runway mode, in which the values are displayed in the opposite direction resembling an airport runway with the highest speeds in the foreground and lowest in the background. It also can show your lap times, g-meter, acceleration. You can also put shift lights in the head-up display.

Elsewhere in the cabin, you get carbon fiber, sport seats and embossed stitching. Buyers can spec leather with contrasting stitching in black, red or green. RS Design packages are also available to match with seat corners, seatbelts and air vent accents.

Audi hasn't priced the RS3 in the US yet, but in Europe it will costs 62,000 euros, which converts to about $73,000, but usually there are price differences besides the conversion. The new color you see is called Kyalami Green. It will also be offered in Kemora Gray. Lastly, while Europe will get both the sedan and hot hatch, we'll only get the sedan.








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Expensive, I'm sure, but a pretty unique car in 2021.
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