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Old 11-23-2017, 11:38 AM   #1
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Default Ran low on oil 😭 06 fxt

Post about my mother's 06 forester XT.. due to a t-belt tensioner failure around 115k miles..we recently had her engine rebuilt by SCR performance in Loveland, Colorado..(edited to say: not blaming them..just a detail of the story that perhaps it's relevant, idk..)

And now just under 20k mi later.. she'd gone 3k miles since her last oil change and HAD NOT checked her oil level 😨😵 (I honestly had told her to keep an eye on it every other gas fill for awhile because she was over a qt low at her last oil change!) -oil pressure light came on while she was driving only 25mph..just a little a few blocks journey..returned home.. I checked the oil and added nearly 3qts to bring it to the full line..

Start it... and SERIOUS engine noise! VERY little power..I just ran it long enough to pull out of the garage. Lots of rumble..no desire to even hear it run a moment longer kind of noises! Ughhhh!

Soooo... I guess I have a few questions..I'm fully assuming from what I've read a rebuild is now in order again xD.

1)What is the likely extent of the damages.. The heads and turbo probably still okay or probably need rpl/rebuild as well as the block?

2)I've been self-training as a mechanic, yay for forums with killer diy's! -so far just hondas: cv axles, starter, radiator, control arm yada.. head gasket, water pump..etc.
^^so no engine swaps, but perhaps foolish confidence of thinking I COULD MAYBE/would like to try...

How foolish is it to think that with zero mechanical training from anywhere but the Internet I could personally accomplish the task of removing the heads, turbo, block, etc and reassemble it myself???

3)Is it even worth examining the block to see the extent of damages?

4)New short blocks go for $1700-1800, or I see two rebuilder dudes in Denver posting ej255's for $1300-1500..
Which is the better route? Rebuilt only if going for upgrades is a sound logic I've heard around various car forums.. that true here also?
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Old 11-23-2017, 12:41 PM   #2
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Based on only your description, the engine is going to need a rebuild.
There is no way of knowing what the extent of the damage is without pulling the engine apart.

3 qts oil loss in 3000 miles is excessive. Sounds like there may have already been issues with the motor.

It's a lot easier to take things apart than it is to put the same thing back together correctly.
- No one knows what your mechanical skills are, so you have to make that decision for yourself.
- Many people have done an engine rebuild on their own for the first time and have said they have had good results.
- Depends on how quickly you need the motor running again and how much time you can devote to the build.

Just remember a short block is only the lower half of the motor. You will have to inspect the heads and possibly have them redone.
- Don't forget you are also looking at a new oil pump, oil cooler, and possibly other various parts not included in the short block
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Old 11-23-2017, 02:00 PM   #3
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Based on only your description, the engine is going to need a rebuild.
There is no way of knowing what the extent of the damage is without pulling the engine apart.

3 qts oil loss in 3000 miles is excessive. Sounds like there may have already been issues with the motor.

It's a lot easier to take things apart than it is to put the same thing back together correctly.
- No one knows what your mechanical skills are, so you have to make that decision for yourself.
- Many people have done an engine rebuild on their own for the first time and have said they have had good results.
- Depends on how quickly you need the motor running again and how much time you can devote to the build.

Just remember a short block is only the lower half of the motor. You will have to inspect the heads and possibly have them redone.
- Don't forget you are also looking at a new oil pump, oil cooler, and possibly other various parts not included in the short block
X2

Clogged Oil rings on the pistons broken ring lands.

Turbo Bearings gone etc.

A WHOLE Host of things can be causing the excess oil usage.

This anit going to be cheap atleast 5k Min

If metal got circulated through the oil system Consider you will need New Oil cooler,Oil Pump, Should have your AVCS solenoids replaced or cleaned and your AVCS cam phasers likely replaced. thats nearly $1000 in parts alone.

Heads and cams checked valves etc.
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Old 11-23-2017, 09:16 PM   #4
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Im having some similar issues and I am told i need to do block and heads. I hope to hear your is not the same.. good luck
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Old 11-24-2017, 01:02 PM   #5
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Ahh right on. That's some excellent additional info. Thanks guys! I think I'm gonna tear into the block myself and see what I can see.. maybe I'll post up a couple videos so others can help diagnose what all got destroyed.
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Old 11-27-2017, 09:22 PM   #6
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So...w/the Tensioner failure you had the 'engine = short block' rebuilt or just the heads? What's the SCR receipt state. They may have replaced a piston, but maybe you just had bent valves in the head?

Why? Because if all they did were the heads, then the block was likely already toast. If it was indeed a full rebuild, then no way it should use that oil. Of course, you shoulda/coulda found that out during the 'break-in' period after it was rebuilt. SCR should have had a 'mandated for warranty' break-in routine to follow. But if your mom didn't check the oil then it's on her.


I'd call them (depending on their local rep), tell them your story, and see what they can do.

It doesn't sound like you're too concerned about the warranty side...(sounds more like you're looking for a reason to rebuild the engine! More power to you).

So, take it or leave it.

Also, that block is the same as the '06-'13 (?) OB XT/LGT/WRX/Baja, and close enough to an STi's to work. But I would buy a new shortblock for $2K b4 buying any used Subie turbo engine.
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