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#4426 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 341649
Join Date: Dec 2012
Chapter/Region:
International
Location: Sun City
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![]() Was building a lightweight system using your pump, another guy's nozzle, a hobbs switch and some solenoids, tank with low level, and some relays for the poor man failsafe (boost solenoid cut) from low level, but i needed something to detect lack of flow, and that isn't easy i realize.
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#4427 |
Former Vendor
Member#: 110029
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sussex, England
Vehicle:2004 Citroen Picasso Silver |
![]() Low level failsafe is better than no failsafe.
If the wmi operation is not critical and tuned for, it is fine. |
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#4428 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 341649
Join Date: Dec 2012
Chapter/Region:
International
Location: Sun City
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![]() Ok. The nozzle I bought was 290cc @ 200psi i think.
Injector 520cc and i am currently at 90% IDC (2 liter engine). Thinking if i go pure water i would have to tune more aggressively, so a 50/50 at that low level and maybe a .5 leaner, 1-2 degree more timing and 2 psi more boost, if something goes wrong at that elevated tuned for level, i'm thinking i'd be much safer? Last edited by JMlegacy; 04-20-2015 at 04:19 PM. |
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#4429 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 105232
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Pacifica
Vehicle:2004 Hybrid Wagon wrb |
![]() Do you know if adding a tank filter will cause less flow bars on the gauge if its already setup without a tank filter? Still wondering if I should just adjust the SC to tune it out, or if its some other issue I havent been able to track down.
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#4430 | |
Former Vendor
Member#: 110029
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sussex, England
Vehicle:2004 Citroen Picasso Silver |
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I have no problem with people designing their own system, getting a failsafe to work effectively is very involved. I suggest you buy an aftermarket flow monitoring device to help you protecting your engine. Unfortunately we no longer offer one as it is very time consuming to integrate with a third party wmi system properly. |
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#4431 | |
Former Vendor
Member#: 110029
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sussex, England
Vehicle:2004 Citroen Picasso Silver |
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I am not sure what system you have but if you have an aquamist, tank filter and post-FAV filter come as standard. No need to have an addition filter. |
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#4432 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 419396
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Manchester Md
Vehicle:1997 Supra Millennium Yellow |
![]() Hello,
I purchased one of your HFS-5 kits, back when it first came out, and am finally getting around to installing it. Lol. It's going on a 97 Supra, and I was hoping you could tell me what, if anything, I should replace before installing it. Most of the o-rings (on my fittings) look a bit suspect, but that's about it. Not that that really matters though, as it looks like you recommend a new sort of compression fitting now anyway. Also, I believe each nozzle base has a built in check valve now, something I want (had a friend hydrolock his motor, due to the pump valve failing/ siphoning), and need (tank is directly above my pump, which is a foot above the intercooler bung). Bests, Brian |
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#4433 |
Former Vendor
Member#: 110029
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sussex, England
Vehicle:2004 Citroen Picasso Silver |
![]() You must be one of the "oldest" new install known to me.
First of all, you'll be advised to replace all your current push-in fittings to compression fittings. We only recommend use checkvalve-jet for directly port application. Can you tell me does your hydrolock friend uses a aquamist system? I like to know more as I have not heard this once for the last 15 years. Last edited by Aquamist; 04-25-2015 at 05:29 AM. |
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#4434 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 419396
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Manchester Md
Vehicle:1997 Supra Millennium Yellow |
![]() Hello again!
I started a full thread (2jz). Ill write the hydrolock story there... Along with what I *believe* I need. Please take a peak, and let me know what you think. Thanks! Bests, Brian |
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#4435 |
Former Vendor
Member#: 110029
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sussex, England
Vehicle:2004 Citroen Picasso Silver |
![]() Thanks for the link and new thread.
Reading through the other thread you created, the issue was caused by a leaky checkvalve, filling the intercooler over night when parked on a slope. I like to point out none of the aquamist system relies on a checkvalve to stop syphoning. You posted on this aquamist specific thread and claimed someone experienced hydrolocking their motor. Comment such as this can spread like wild fire by other unscrupulous competing wmi makers. Can you please confirm the makes of the wmi system, we have had a totally clean record on this issue to date. Thanks Richard Last edited by Aquamist; 04-26-2015 at 04:32 AM. |
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#4436 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 419396
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Manchester Md
Vehicle:1997 Supra Millennium Yellow |
![]() Hello Richard,
My apologies! I never meant to imply that the leak was an Aquamist kit... It was NOT. He had a pieced together kit. I only mentioned it, as my rationale for wanting check valves. I posted in your section because i have an HFS-5 (that i ordered *because* of your multiple safety features, and excellent track record). Again, my apologies! Now, as for my other thread, please let me know if my calculations are correct. Thanks! Best Regards, Brian |
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#4437 |
Former Vendor
Member#: 110029
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sussex, England
Vehicle:2004 Citroen Picasso Silver |
![]() Thanks for the clarification.
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#4438 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 15822
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MOCKBA
Vehicle:1999 WRB GM6 2.34 LR destroker |
![]() my new surge tank
still have to figure out how to modify the spec c tank so it doesn't leak on the ouput |
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#4439 |
Former Vendor
Member#: 110029
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sussex, England
Vehicle:2004 Citroen Picasso Silver |
![]() I prefer the soda bottle
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#4440 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 15822
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MOCKBA
Vehicle:1999 WRB GM6 2.34 LR destroker |
![]() as I finished up inistallation and eliminated all leaks, decided to test the system and accidently switched polarity of the priming pump, it still worked, but probably the other way
![]() I don't know if that was the cause, but system didn't spray with the blue wire ungrounded went on to check for problems, and it appears my pressure switch (806-162) failed - no resistance measured across both contacts ![]() am I right? if so, this is the second time my pressure switch fails, is there any special way this unit should be handled? in the mean time, will be giving Jeff @ Howerton another call for a replacement unit |
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#4441 | |
Former Vendor
Member#: 110029
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sussex, England
Vehicle:2004 Citroen Picasso Silver |
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#4442 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 291213
Join Date: Aug 2011
Chapter/Region:
E. Canada
Location: hawkesbury, ontario
Vehicle:2009 wrx swp |
![]() hey guys i need help here... i posted on the aquamist forum but no anwsers
i just installed a new hfs-6 kit on my built 09 wrx, im pretty sure everything is hooked up right but heres my problem... 1st i put water in the tank until level sensor was fully up then i turned key to on position and the yellow led light up for 10 secs and then turned off and no other leds lighted up on the gauge... all lights on control box were green, then i tryed testing the pump with the prk jumper on the test link and turned key on and the pump started after 10 secs and water came out of the hose so then i turned it off and put jumper back on prk... but now everytime i put the key to the on position it sprays :/ and the gauge does not any leds anymore... no yellow or blue led... and the button is depressed... not sure what im doing wrong so any help would be appreciated if someone could walk me through the first test to do, thanks Last edited by johnmx3ze; 05-03-2015 at 11:16 AM. |
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#4443 | |
Former Vendor
Member#: 110029
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sussex, England
Vehicle:2004 Citroen Picasso Silver |
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#4444 | |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 15822
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MOCKBA
Vehicle:1999 WRB GM6 2.34 LR destroker |
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got it searched aquamist forums, followed instructions and connected two pins on the 806-162 together which should stop the pump - it didn't, pump stays on all the time silently buzzing and priming pump works all the time too, failsafe orange LED on what I tried (with the priming pump connected and operational to insure main pump has water): 1. no leaks found, tried adjusting 806-162 slightly both directions, didn't help 2. disconnected output hose from the pump to make sure its pushing water 3. disassembled 806-201 to make sure no air is trapped there 4. bypassed FAV and connected jet right after the pump (3 meters of hose) - very weak spray, I assume this is normal since no pressure is built could the pump blow the seal by running only few seconds dry? As I stated I connected priming pump with wrong polarity, so it was probably sucking instead of pushing for a few seconds tomorrow I am going to try to ground center wire of the pump to see if it stops or not this is really depressing, so much time and effort put into it, it worked beautifully a week ago when I tested everything and now this ![]() Last edited by Hyper; 05-03-2015 at 08:33 PM. |
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#4445 | |
Former Vendor
Member#: 110029
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sussex, England
Vehicle:2004 Citroen Picasso Silver |
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Grounding the centre pin of the pump should stop the pump. Also check the centre pin is not no pushed out of the plug housing or corroded. It is always difficult to diagnose a 10 years old system, problems are no longer to caused by the system issue. Last edited by Aquamist; 05-04-2015 at 03:53 AM. |
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#4446 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 15822
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MOCKBA
Vehicle:1999 WRB GM6 2.34 LR destroker |
![]() Grounding center pin of the pump stops the pump
primed the pump using two methods - gravity fed and priming pump took apart the pump completely, including the center piece, to make sure I get rid of all possible air, still same thing also while buzzing I tried adjusting the 806-162 and when I adjusted it almost all the way CCW it stopped the pump.... I made a picture of the minimum switch position where the pump shuts off, if I try to adjust it CW just a bit - pump starts buzzing again |
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#4447 |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 291213
Join Date: Aug 2011
Chapter/Region:
E. Canada
Location: hawkesbury, ontario
Vehicle:2009 wrx swp |
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#4448 | |
Former Vendor
Member#: 110029
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sussex, England
Vehicle:2004 Citroen Picasso Silver |
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It appears the pump is not making enough pressure for the 806-162 to switch it off. Last edited by Aquamist; 05-05-2015 at 04:08 AM. |
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#4449 |
Former Vendor
Member#: 110029
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sussex, England
Vehicle:2004 Citroen Picasso Silver |
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#4450 |
Scooby Guru
Member#: 15822
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MOCKBA
Vehicle:1999 WRB GM6 2.34 LR destroker |
![]() judging by the photo, do you think the adjustment screw is too much out? it was inwards more, before, when the system was working. In other words with two threads sticking out could you say its set at OEM pressure (7 bars I think?)
if its the pump, not making enough pressure what else can I check in it? I already took apart and cleaned the internal shaft Last edited by Hyper; 05-05-2015 at 07:36 AM. |
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