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03-05-2014, 03:33 PM | #51 | |
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03-05-2014, 05:04 PM | #52 | |
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03-05-2014, 07:06 PM | #53 | |
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As I said in my original post it irks me that Subaru have put out a video on what is arguably the most desirable production STi to date, and then not bothered to do some basic research before filming. Considering the rallying "facts" he states, in the video he says: "Subaru won their third WRC manufacturers Championship in 1998". Wrong. Their third (and final) manufacturer title was won in 1997. The 22B was launched in March 1998, but had actually debuted at the Tokyo Motor Show in 1997 as the "WRCar-STi". Then he says: "Initially the RS Coupe was turned into a rally car by Prodrive, that car grew as it went through its first three seasons and in the fourth and final season 1998 it got this flared fender look to the car and then of course the big wing." Several wrongs here. The Group A Impreza debuted in the WRC in 1993, being used in select rounds before being used in the complete 1994, 1995 and 1996 seasons. The Group A Impreza was based on a 4 door, not RS coupe, shell. The two door Impreza shell (Type R, not RS coupe) was first used when the switch to World Rally Car regulations came in to effect in 1997. The two door Impreza WRCar was used in the 1997, 1998, 1999 and 2000 seasons. 1998 was not the fourth nor final season for the two door Impreza rally car. He is kind of right with the big wing, but the wing on the 22B is bigger than any of those fitted to the World Rally Cars of that era. Oh and being picky: "Its rare that you get a car that looks great as a road car and a rally car" Rare; apart from the Escort Cosworth, Celica GT4, Pulsar GTi-R, Sierra Cosworth, Manta GTE, RS1800 Escort and just about every car from the Group B era. And that guy is supposed to be a PR manager! Ah, fair enough. I didn't know what it was listed as in the original STi catalogue. |
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03-05-2014, 10:17 PM | #54 |
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03-06-2014, 09:27 AM | #55 |
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I heard it is possible to have 2 door RA but they are usually WRX not STi Between Sept 97 and Sept 98 they used chassis number GC8 E27D / 98-99 was GC8 F27D / 99-00 was G27D. All limited editions [ V Limited ] with add on features. There was never a factory STi type RA in 2 door. http://bbs.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-g...ed-2-door.html Last edited by Subaruman5; 03-07-2014 at 01:50 PM. |
03-06-2014, 09:52 AM | #56 | |
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http://bbs.scoobynet.com/showpost.ph...2&postcount=15 There is a guide to the Version 4 STi limited editions on the Type RA forum, which mentions WRX and STI Type R's... http://www.type-ra.com/pdf/version-4-v-limited.pdf ... but no two door RA listed. Neither is there one on the official STi chassis code list: http://www.sti.jp/product/impreza/list.html That was the last I'd read on the subject. Be interested to read any other info you have on the subject though! |
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03-06-2014, 12:27 PM | #57 |
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Now that's an interesting fact, GC8F27D is indeed broken down as a non-STi (99') WRX 2 door coupe. Rare, for sure. According to the link "tbtstt" posted, they do not list a 00' non-STi coupe as being produced. They do still call it a "Type-R" in 99' though... weird. If I had a chassis number, I could punch it into FAST and know for certain. During my time in Japan, I never stumbled across any coupe that wasn't an STi Type-R.
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03-06-2014, 12:29 PM | #58 |
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P.S. Aside from the roof vent, what else could an "RA" add to a Type R coupe?
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03-06-2014, 07:36 PM | #59 |
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03-07-2014, 01:45 PM | #60 | |
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http://bbs.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-g...ou-prefer.html All of these websites below point to the 4 doors being Type RAs. http://www.type-ra.com/pdf/version_5_limited.pdf http://www.type-ra.com/pdf/version4.pdf This website below includes all the years of the Type RAs and are mentioned 4 door on all. http://www.type-ra.com/timeline.htm GC8A (11/1992-9/1993) The WRX debuted in November 1992 with 240 PS (176.5 kW; 236.7 hp). The center differential was a viscous coupling type, the rear limited slip differential was a viscous type. The WRX Type RA is a stripped down version of the WRX that was available in the Japanese market for people to purchase for motorsports and tuning. Targeted for race and rally, the RA versions were generally lighter in weight; featuring reduced soundproofing, manual windows, no air conditioning, no anti-lock brakes, and added racing features such as more robust engines, driver controlled center differentials, and shorter gearing. The WRX Type RA uses a closer ratio gearbox and a three-spoke leather steering wheel from Nardi. - Wikipedia In conclusion, there were never marketed a Type RA. As from username leonpoole on scoobynet stated, that Japan confirmed that his 98 WRX was a Type R due to the same engine as the RA which is why it shares a similar chassis number. Although I am still betting that it is still possible to have a 2 door RA but they are usually WRX and not an STi Between Sept 97 and Sept 98 they used chassis number GC8 E27D / 98-99 was GC8 F27D / 99-00 was G27D. http://bbs.scoobynet.com/general-tec...v-limited.html. Type R RA has a small sticker under the OS rear lamp " type RA " They are usually WRX RA rather than STi RA is what David said. But sources like on the link above are saying that, "Subaru have confirmed that there was never a JDM 2 door Type RA. ALL 2 door models are Type R's and no Ltd run of 'special' 2 door RA's was made at any time." From http://www.type-ra.co.uk/vB/showthre...gc8E27d&page=2 (invalid link now) Basically the confusion is that WRX model E27D, F27D, and G27D were Type RA chassis with a Type R body shell on them which is why some had " The applied model E27D,F27D etc.. were a Type RA chassis with a Type R bodyshell on them, which is why David said he has a picture somewhere of the stickers on a Type R with RA below the rear lamp. Go figure? Looking further... This MY98 WRX Type R RA V-Limited (GC8E27D) is a fact they do exist according to this link. 276bhp just without the water spray, dccd, etc that STi Type-R comes with. Another source picture of a GC8EJ27D http://www.rs25.com/forums/f61/127245-22b-gauges-3.html Here is a source saying the EJ27D is 2 door Type RA WRX type R V-Limited/GC8E27D/280/Manual/Special edition 2 door RA http://www.catherineandken.co.uk/sti/wrx.html yet... This site mentions nothing of such a car... http://www.sti.jp/product/impreza/list.html Why it shares a model code with an RA I am not sure, just like why pre 96 WRX wagon shares a model code with the pre 96 STI Wagon.. http://bbs.scoobynet.com/private-for...45-1000-a.html Its a non-sti V-Limited 2door version of the WRX (non Sti) base RA. Officially it IS a Type R (although it was marketed as being based on the 4door WRX RA). For verson 5, it was an established model and people did not need to know what it was based on. They also added the STI drivetrain. In a 100% conclusion to settle this debate, the 2 door Type RA is realistically a WRX Type R V-Limited without water spray, dccd,because there have never been a 2 door RA properly documented by Subaru. The applied model E27D,F27D etc.. were a Type RA chassis with a Type R bodyshell on them. |
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03-07-2014, 01:51 PM | #61 |
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