ASP.... the competition... - Page 14

crystalhelix · 04-17-2008, 09:55 AM

More than that with tires wheels, major exhaust components, injectors, etc..I figure I have about 17k of stuff on my car if you include all my wheels/tires..

On another note, I am off for tuning tomorrow hoping to sit high on the VF39 power monger list..

additions from last year, new up-pipe, wrapped headers, TGV delets, APS inlet.. so I am hoping for a tiny bit more top end even if I loose some low end..

First event for me is sunday, going to get my first dataAq data for the season! woot!

What kind of camber curve could be that much better? Mac Struts suck..and the front is where we need more of a curve - lol

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makofoto · 04-17-2008, 10:16 AM

Remember .... "How Fast Do You Want To Go?"

waktasz · 04-17-2008, 10:24 AM

335s!! Jesus.

crystalhelix · 04-17-2008, 11:26 AM

335's would actually never heat up at my local venues and you'd be hard press to heat them up without a co-driver at nationals IMO...

Scooby South · 04-17-2008, 01:20 PM

ok...lets look

decently prepared BSP car not completely prepped out

-suspension/coilovers $ 3500 for something decent
-Sways: $400
-Rims/Tires: $4000ish...2000 rims....2000 for tires
-intake: $300
-Turbo Back $900
-Tune: $1000
-Seats: $1000
-Bushings and labor $500

so where are we..$11600 to prep the car somewhat decently...then anouther $5000 to get it to a national level...Intake, TGV deletes, inj...Etc....

Wow..I didn't realize I spent that much money...

Bill

makofoto · 04-17-2008, 01:23 PM

Only 2K for tires? I spent $3K a few years ago on my local SM WRX project ... and that was only using 245 Hoosiers and 710's. We do run a LOT out here.

crystalhelix · 04-17-2008, 01:25 PM

I feel at this point I have every power supporting mod sans a Magnus manifold to support our little snail. So we'll see after tomorrow. By the way 10 gallons of C16 cost me $145 bucks today. Upgrading and replacing brakes is expensive too, as well as seats can cost $700 each depending on how you go but with the 21lb limit that isn't so bad cause you don't need the lightest thing..

sti752 · 04-17-2008, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby South

ok...lets look

decently prepared BSP car not completely prepped out

-suspension/coilovers $ 3500 for something decent
-Sways: $400
-Rims/Tires: $4000ish...2000 rims....2000 for tires
-intake: $300
-Turbo Back $900
-Tune: $1000
-Seats: $1000
-Bushings and labor $500

so where are we..$11600 to prep the car somewhat decently...then anouther $5000 to get it to a national level...Intake, TGV deletes, inj...Etc....

Wow..I didn't realize I spent that much money...

Bill

My list of stuff to build a 2008 BSP car:

ZZYZX or ohlins Coilovers ~4000
TXS Stealth TBE ~800
Whiteline 29mm front sway ~200
Enkei RPF1 18x10.5" ~1200
315/30R18 Hoosier A6 ~1350 shipped and mounted
NRG CF Buckets ~1100 with brackets
GrimmSpeed Header ~330
COBB AP V2 and ProTune ~1000
Hawk HP+ Pads ~250
Stainless Brake Lines ~100

Total ~10050

Of course this isn't considering tires will need to be replaced as well as possibly a clutch if you go to a lot of prosolos. Also, this would be doing your own labor. Dang, that is a lot of money. This is about the extent of the prep of my car but I didn't have such a high dollar suspension or the 315s. I think that would be enough to win everything if you were a very good driver.

waktasz · 04-17-2008, 03:20 PM

What you guys fail to mention is that none of those suspension parts exist yet

.

CamaroFS34 · 04-17-2008, 03:23 PM

National level autocross isn't cheap if you want to be remotely competitive. I've already thrown over $2000 at my DS car, and I didn't pay near "retail" for most of it... and I haven't included tires yet, either. I also have been installing most of it myself (or getting Justin to help me with it).

Now why the hell did you guys make me add that up?

Karen

sti752 · 04-17-2008, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waktasz

What you guys fail to mention is that none of those suspension parts exist yet

.

True. I noticed that when I looked around at some options. Maybe for 2009.

waktasz · 04-17-2008, 03:30 PM

I'm just waiting for someone to make a damn front swaybar. Perrin's is still about a month out.

aufaber · 04-17-2008, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sti752

I think that would be enough to win everything if you were a very good driver.

i.e. Tom Berry drivin his Evo.

Maybe there just needs to be another 5k tacked on to woo Gary Thomason, Ken Motonishi, etc to co-drive the car.. shoot they usually have tire contracts so it'd almost be a wash.

crystalhelix · 04-21-2008, 10:27 AM

Got my first pic of the car in action with this years setup..

busy last couple weeks installing parts and traveling to Agile Automotive to get a tune-up on Friday..I got really blitzed Saturday night and didn't have time to make BSP numbers for myself so I grabbed a set of number plates a local never paid me for, hence the SM numbers, lol...

the worst part is I still got beat by a SM EVO by ~.6 seconds...

digitalseance · 04-21-2008, 11:04 AM

You took all the graphics off?

crystalhelix · 04-21-2008, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalseance

You took all the graphics off?

all but the tire-rack banner and sharkscoop, something's going on it and I have an idea of what I want to do but it won't be as crazy as last years fighter theme..

BlkWRXWag · 04-21-2008, 11:23 AM

It looks naked

digitalseance · 04-21-2008, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crystalhelix

all but the tire-rack banner and sharkscoop, something's going on it and I have an idea of what I want to do but it won't be as crazy as last years fighter theme..

I heard hello kitty gets good attention.

j/k

Have fun designing it, I've always wanted a full scheme but I'm not creative enough to come up with one that looks good enough, plus, I have sponsor names to incorporate making it even harder.

Chiketkd · 04-21-2008, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlkWRXWag

It looks naked

+12345

crystalhelix · 04-21-2008, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalseance

I heard hello kitty gets good attention.

j/k

Have fun designing it, I've always wanted a full scheme but I'm not creative enough to come up with one that looks good enough, plus, I have sponsor names to incorporate making it even harder.

if hello kitty gave me tire money I'd put it on there..

Chiketkd · 04-21-2008, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crystalhelix

if hello kitty gave me tire money I'd put it on there..

Anyone have connections in Japan???

BlkWRXWag · 04-21-2008, 03:16 PM

Can you get sponsored by Club Orleans?

crystalhelix · 04-21-2008, 03:58 PM

I think I'd be fine with Baby Doll's sponsoring me for nationals too..particularily if that involved barely clad umbrella girls..

digitalseance · 04-21-2008, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crystalhelix

By the way 10 gallons of C16 cost me $145 bucks today.

Byron dragway in IL sells it at the strip for $9/gal. P&L charged me approx $15/gal and they got it from AMS who charges similar.

I suggest checking prices at your local strip before going back to where ever you got it from. I'm picking up 10gals on May 17th at the MWSOC shootout because it's so cheap compared to the tuner shops.

Scooby South · 12-19-2008, 03:30 PM

Ok..I have been thinking alot about this lately...not enough to pull the trigger on a 08/09 STi yet...but Seriously missing my BSP Car...

has anyone had success with a 08 Chassis yet in BSP or SM...so 315's will work...HP w/375lbs of torque...coilovers of choice are????

can it compete???? or is the EVO gonna smoke it regardless...

Bill

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04-17-2008, 09:55 AM	#326
crystalhelix Scooby Guru Member#: 35313 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: SpryRacing.com AgileAuto.com Vehicle: Spry Forester Silver Spark	More than that with tires wheels, major exhaust components, injectors, etc..I figure I have about 17k of stuff on my car if you include all my wheels/tires.. On another note, I am off for tuning tomorrow hoping to sit high on the VF39 power monger list.. additions from last year, new up-pipe, wrapped headers, TGV delets, APS inlet.. so I am hoping for a tiny bit more top end even if I loose some low end.. First event for me is sunday, going to get my first dataAq data for the season! woot! What kind of camber curve could be that much better? Mac Struts suck..and the front is where we need more of a curve - lol * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

04-17-2008, 10:16 AM	#327
makofoto Scooby Guru Member#: 25243 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: South Pasadena, CA Vehicle: 2006 Legacy Outback Blue	Remember .... "How Fast Do You Want To Go?"

04-17-2008, 10:24 AM	#328
waktasz Scooby Guru Member#: 86356 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Vehicle: 2018 Aprilia Tuono v4 1100	335s!! Jesus.

04-17-2008, 11:26 AM	#329
crystalhelix Scooby Guru Member#: 35313 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: SpryRacing.com AgileAuto.com Vehicle: Spry Forester Silver Spark	335's would actually never heat up at my local venues and you'd be hard press to heat them up without a co-driver at nationals IMO...

04-17-2008, 01:20 PM	#330
Scooby South Subtly Outspoken Moderator Member#: 238 Join Date: Sep 1999 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Vehicle: OG05 STi 51E	ok...lets look decently prepared BSP car not completely prepped out -suspension/coilovers $ 3500 for something decent -Sways: $400 -Rims/Tires: $4000ish...2000 rims....2000 for tires -intake: $300 -Turbo Back $900 -Tune: $1000 -Seats: $1000 -Bushings and labor $500 so where are we..$11600 to prep the car somewhat decently...then anouther $5000 to get it to a national level...Intake, TGV deletes, inj...Etc.... Wow..I didn't realize I spent that much money... Bill

04-17-2008, 01:23 PM	#331
makofoto Scooby Guru Member#: 25243 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: South Pasadena, CA Vehicle: 2006 Legacy Outback Blue	Only 2K for tires? I spent $3K a few years ago on my local SM WRX project ... and that was only using 245 Hoosiers and 710's. We do run a LOT out here.

04-17-2008, 01:25 PM	#332
crystalhelix Scooby Guru Member#: 35313 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: SpryRacing.com AgileAuto.com Vehicle: Spry Forester Silver Spark	I feel at this point I have every power supporting mod sans a Magnus manifold to support our little snail. So we'll see after tomorrow. By the way 10 gallons of C16 cost me $145 bucks today. Upgrading and replacing brakes is expensive too, as well as seats can cost $700 each depending on how you go but with the 21lb limit that isn't so bad cause you don't need the lightest thing..

04-17-2008, 03:20 PM	#334
waktasz Scooby Guru Member#: 86356 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Vehicle: 2018 Aprilia Tuono v4 1100	What you guys fail to mention is that none of those suspension parts exist yet .

04-17-2008, 03:23 PM	#335
CamaroFS34 Scooby Guru Member#: 6850 Join Date: May 2001 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: SoBWI, MD Vehicle: 1996 Camaro Z28 1LE, '23 WRX & '19 XV	National level autocross isn't cheap if you want to be remotely competitive. I've already thrown over $2000 at my DS car, and I didn't pay near "retail" for most of it... and I haven't included tires yet, either. I also have been installing most of it myself (or getting Justin to help me with it). Now why the hell did you guys make me add that up? Karen

04-17-2008, 03:30 PM	#337
waktasz Scooby Guru Member#: 86356 Join Date: May 2005 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Vehicle: 2018 Aprilia Tuono v4 1100	I'm just waiting for someone to make a damn front swaybar. Perrin's is still about a month out.

04-21-2008, 10:27 AM	#339
crystalhelix Scooby Guru Member#: 35313 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: SpryRacing.com AgileAuto.com Vehicle: Spry Forester Silver Spark	Got my first pic of the car in action with this years setup.. busy last couple weeks installing parts and traveling to Agile Automotive to get a tune-up on Friday..I got really blitzed Saturday night and didn't have time to make BSP numbers for myself so I grabbed a set of number plates a local never paid me for, hence the SM numbers, lol... the worst part is I still got beat by a SM EVO by ~.6 seconds...

04-21-2008, 11:04 AM	#340
digitalseance Scooby Specialist Member#: 104400 Join Date: Jan 2006 Chapter/Region: South East Location: SouthSide Jax, FL Vehicle: 169k mile race car Black	You took all the graphics off?

04-21-2008, 11:23 AM	#342
BlkWRXWag Scooby Specialist Member#: 31821 Join Date: Jan 2003 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: FRSport.com Vehicle: 2015 DS WRX	It looks naked

04-21-2008, 03:16 PM	#347
BlkWRXWag Scooby Specialist Member#: 31821 Join Date: Jan 2003 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: FRSport.com Vehicle: 2015 DS WRX	Can you get sponsored by Club Orleans?

04-21-2008, 03:58 PM	#348
crystalhelix Scooby Guru Member#: 35313 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: SpryRacing.com AgileAuto.com Vehicle: Spry Forester Silver Spark	I think I'd be fine with Baby Doll's sponsoring me for nationals too..particularily if that involved barely clad umbrella girls..

12-19-2008, 03:30 PM	#350
Scooby South Subtly Outspoken Moderator Member#: 238 Join Date: Sep 1999 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Vehicle: OG05 STi 51E	Ok..I have been thinking alot about this lately...not enough to pull the trigger on a 08/09 STi yet...but Seriously missing my BSP Car... has anyone had success with a 08 Chassis yet in BSP or SM...so 315's will work...HP w/375lbs of torque...coilovers of choice are???? can it compete???? or is the EVO gonna smoke it regardless... Bill