STX WRX Setup / Discussion thread - Page 27

UWMechEngr · 03-04-2014, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emanuel

I guess it depends on how it will work out. If it turns out I was terribly mistaken, no.

However if it turns out it's working pretty well, I will at least be at the Peru Match tour.

Ha, fair enough.

In my own world, ordered ZIIs today. Need to call and get an alignment scheduled, and call a man about a fender roller...

16th is coming up quickly.

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tronic · 03-10-2014, 08:02 PM

I have a 2008 WRX and am just casually autocrossing these days but would like to keep it STX-legal. I recently installed an AEM intake and Cobb AP with OTS stage 1 map.

Anybody happen to know of any STX-legal stage 1-ish maps out there for use with the COBB AP (Accesstuner Race) or with a Tactrix Openport?

I fully intend to get a custom tune for STX once I have a downpipe, catback, and whatever other legal power mods are worth doing, but that won't be for awhile, and the 2014 season starts in just a few weeks I realized!

Mr. Me · 03-10-2014, 11:46 PM

Even the stage 1 tune isn't legal for stx. If it were up to me, and I don't know what other mods you have (tires, wheels, suspension, etc) I would put the stock intake back on, flash the oem tune back on and run stock class until you are a little more prepped for the class. And this isn't me trying to deter you from autocrossing. You will have a better pax index in street tire or stock class (whichever it is called now).

tronic · 03-11-2014, 12:23 AM

Yes, I know a stage 1 map isn't STX legal, sorry if that wasn't clear. I've been autocrossing for 11 years and know the rules. That's why I was asking if there were any maps out there that are STX legal (I doubt it, but it never hurts to ask).

I'll probably run ASP in the local street tire indexed class for now. I do have other mods and PAX-wise I'd probably be better off in ASP with my Perrin swaybars, oem 2012 struts/springs, intake and Cobb stage 1, than on the horribly weak OEM 2008 suspension and tune in stock class anyway.

If I get an open source STX-legal tune in the future I will certainly share it.

Mr. Me · 03-11-2014, 10:30 AM

Oh, well in that case... Haha. ASP would probably be a good class to be in. Unfortunately in the tune department I think you'll have to go open source or buy an accessport and get a custom stx tune. As of right now there isn't an off the shelf stx tune offered by Cobb for the 08.

UWMechEngr · 03-11-2014, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tronic

Yes, I know a stage 1 map isn't STX legal, sorry if that wasn't clear. I've been autocrossing for 11 years and know the rules. That's why I was asking if there were any maps out there that are STX legal (I doubt it, but it never hurts to ask).

I'll probably run ASP in the local street tire indexed class for now. I do have other mods and PAX-wise I'd probably be better off in ASP with my Perrin swaybars, oem 2012 struts/springs, intake and Cobb stage 1, than on the horribly weak OEM 2008 suspension and tune in stock class anyway.

If I get an open source STX-legal tune in the future I will certainly share it.

Cobb usually has off-the-shelf maps for STX/STU. I'd contact them and see if there's one that you missed already loaded on your AP.

MNbiker · 03-13-2014, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UWMechEngr

Cobb usually has off-the-shelf maps for STX/STU. I'd contact them and see if there's one that you missed already loaded on your AP.

Cobb doesn't have an STX-legal map for the '08 WRX. Already asked them about it.

I have a really good STX-legal custom tune for my '08, but it's for a Cobb intake and Invidia downpipe w/3" exhaust.

-Steve

UWMechEngr · 03-13-2014, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNbiker

Cobb doesn't have an STX-legal map for the '08 WRX. Already asked them about it.

I have a really good STX-legal custom tune for my '08, but it's for a Cobb intake and Invidia downpipe w/3" exhaust.

-Steve

Shows what I know about your newfangled cars

tronic · 03-13-2014, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MNbiker

Cobb doesn't have an STX-legal map for the '08 WRX. Already asked them about it.

Yep. Here is COBB support's reply from yesterday:
"At one time we offered off the shelf maps for STX and STU autocross classes. Honestly these maps were not very successful and are very outdated. The best option would be to have the car custom tuned for your class."

I also asked about modifying the OTS stage 1/2 maps to keep stock boost levels, and:
"Much like you suggested, you could take a stage 2 map and copy and paste the boost tables from a stock mode map into the stage 2 map. This would give you a good starting point using ATR."
So that's cool, but it's a bit beyond my capabilities (in terms of making sure it's safe).

BeBop86 · 03-13-2014, 03:50 PM

It would be safe, but probably would run rich as it's expecting more boost for the fueling.

Emanuel · 03-14-2014, 09:54 PM

Took the 15" wheel setup for a first drive in the country. Can't wait for the first autox.

newtothescene · 03-27-2014, 01:12 PM

Hey UWMechEngr, I see that you are coming out for the VCMC warmup in a couple of weeks! Bring that passport! Canadian guards are pretty chill tho.

UWMechEngr · 03-27-2014, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newtothescene

Hey UWMechEngr, I see that you are coming out for the VCMC warmup in a couple of weeks! Bring that passport! Canadian guards are pretty chill tho.

Ha! I've been up before, in 2012. Let my passport expire last march and didn't bother getting an enhanced license until oct or so. The real question is, will the Golden Ears bridge actually charge me?

Mr. Me · 03-27-2014, 02:48 PM

I've never been charged going over. I'm thinking it might be because my car isn't canadian. Used it the entire season I raced up there and on our honeymoon. Wasn't charged in either car.

newtothescene · 03-27-2014, 07:05 PM

Yes, true. They probably don't bother. Plus I don't think they have any means of searching your licence as it would not be in our database further to Mr. Me..... which reminds me.. are you going to try to make it out this year with BeBop?

Mr. Me · 03-27-2014, 08:03 PM

Possible. Depends on how the rest of this spring goes. I may try to co drive if I do make it up.

BeBop86 · 03-31-2014, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UWMechEngr

Ha! I've been up before, in 2012. Let my passport expire last march and didn't bother getting an enhanced license until oct or so. The real question is, will the Golden Ears bridge actually charge me?

I actually did get a bill in the mail...

Setup a Treo account for auto-pay with a little RF-ID sticker they mail you.

I'll probably make it out to the warm up.

newtothescene · 03-31-2014, 11:37 PM

Just saw that you registered as that lonely ESP guy !!!

BeBop86 · 04-01-2014, 12:26 AM

Well, I'm classed in ESP... But I'm fighting in OPAX this year.

memmek2k · 04-01-2014, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tronic

I have a 2008 WRX and am just casually autocrossing these days but would like to keep it STX-legal. I recently installed an AEM intake and Cobb AP with OTS stage 1 map.

Anybody happen to know of any STX-legal stage 1-ish maps out there for use with the COBB AP (Accesstuner Race) or with a Tactrix Openport?

I fully intend to get a custom tune for STX once I have a downpipe, catback, and whatever other legal power mods are worth doing, but that won't be for awhile, and the 2014 season starts in just a few weeks I realized!

IIRC Jarrad at PDX and Eric at Torqued Performance will both provide custom tunes for STX. I know Eric is super cheap, like $145 for both stage 1 and stage 2 tunes, and his customer service is fantastic. I have a friend that received an updated tune at 2 AM CST, due to Eric living on the west coast. Might be worth shooting them both emails and seeing what they'd charge, and how much they'd charge to update your tune after you get a downpipe.

Scooby921 · 04-01-2014, 12:12 PM

Boost changes are still illegal in street touring, right? Don't most off-the-shelf Stage 1 tunes touch both boost and wastegate duty tables? Those wouldn't be legal. You'd need to tell / remind your tuner that he can only play with timing and fuel.

Mr. Me · 04-01-2014, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scooby921

Boost changes are still illegal in street touring, right? Don't most off-the-shelf Stage 1 tunes touch both boost and wastegate duty tables? Those wouldn't be legal. You'd need to tell / remind your tuner that he can only play with timing and fuel.

That is correct (unfortunately)

UWMechEngr · 04-01-2014, 01:18 PM

Pretty sure memmek2k was just using stage 1 & 2 to make a point about pricing.

MNbiker · 04-01-2014, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tronic

I have a 2008 WRX and am just casually autocrossing these days but would like to keep it STX-legal. I recently installed an AEM intake and Cobb AP with OTS stage 1 map.

Anybody happen to know of any STX-legal stage 1-ish maps out there for use with the COBB AP (Accesstuner Race) or with a Tactrix Openport?

I fully intend to get a custom tune for STX once I have a downpipe, catback, and whatever other legal power mods are worth doing, but that won't be for awhile, and the 2014 season starts in just a few weeks I realized!

Just get a custom map. IMHO it's well worth a few $ to have a tune you can trust. I wouldn't trust off-the shelf maps for competition use - my car used to throw CEL's pretty routinely with the COBB maps, but runs better than stock with Ron's (RS Racing) custom-tuned maps. You have a number of Cobb ProTuners within driving distance, including:

Quantum Performance, Port Washington, WI
http://quantum-performance.com/

AMS Performance, West Chicago, IL
http://www.amsperformance.com/

P&L Motorsports, Franklin Park, IL
http://pandlmotorsports.com/

ABQautoxer · 04-01-2014, 05:44 PM

IMO don't bother until you get the downpipe, that changes everything.

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03-10-2014, 08:02 PM	#652
tronic Scooby Newbie Member#: 330207 Join Date: Aug 2012 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: WA	I have a 2008 WRX and am just casually autocrossing these days but would like to keep it STX-legal. I recently installed an AEM intake and Cobb AP with OTS stage 1 map. Anybody happen to know of any STX-legal stage 1-ish maps out there for use with the COBB AP (Accesstuner Race) or with a Tactrix Openport? I fully intend to get a custom tune for STX once I have a downpipe, catback, and whatever other legal power mods are worth doing, but that won't be for awhile, and the 2014 season starts in just a few weeks I realized!

03-10-2014, 11:46 PM	#653
Mr. Me Scooby Specialist Member#: 193598 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Bellingham, WA Vehicle: 2002 Bugeye Wagon PSM	Even the stage 1 tune isn't legal for stx. If it were up to me, and I don't know what other mods you have (tires, wheels, suspension, etc) I would put the stock intake back on, flash the oem tune back on and run stock class until you are a little more prepped for the class. And this isn't me trying to deter you from autocrossing. You will have a better pax index in street tire or stock class (whichever it is called now).

03-11-2014, 12:23 AM	#654
tronic Scooby Newbie Member#: 330207 Join Date: Aug 2012 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: WA	Yes, I know a stage 1 map isn't STX legal, sorry if that wasn't clear. I've been autocrossing for 11 years and know the rules. That's why I was asking if there were any maps out there that are STX legal (I doubt it, but it never hurts to ask). I'll probably run ASP in the local street tire indexed class for now. I do have other mods and PAX-wise I'd probably be better off in ASP with my Perrin swaybars, oem 2012 struts/springs, intake and Cobb stage 1, than on the horribly weak OEM 2008 suspension and tune in stock class anyway. If I get an open source STX-legal tune in the future I will certainly share it.

03-11-2014, 10:30 AM	#655
Mr. Me Scooby Specialist Member#: 193598 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Bellingham, WA Vehicle: 2002 Bugeye Wagon PSM	Oh, well in that case... Haha. ASP would probably be a good class to be in. Unfortunately in the tune department I think you'll have to go open source or buy an accessport and get a custom stx tune. As of right now there isn't an off the shelf stx tune offered by Cobb for the 08.

03-13-2014, 03:50 PM	#660
BeBop86 Scooby Guru Member#: 147776 Join Date: May 2007 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Seattle, WA Vehicle: 2001 Forester 2013 Scion FR-S	It would be safe, but probably would run rich as it's expecting more boost for the fueling.

03-14-2014, 09:54 PM	#661
Emanuel Scooby Newbie Member#: 314681 Join Date: Mar 2012 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Illinois Vehicle: 2002 WRX Wagon pearl black	Took the 15" wheel setup for a first drive in the country. Can't wait for the first autox.

03-27-2014, 01:12 PM	#662
newtothescene Scooby Specialist Member#: 222368 Join Date: Sep 2009 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Tri-Cities Vehicle: 2006 WRX Limited CGM - SOLD	Hey UWMechEngr, I see that you are coming out for the VCMC warmup in a couple of weeks! Bring that passport! Canadian guards are pretty chill tho.

03-27-2014, 02:48 PM	#664
Mr. Me Scooby Specialist Member#: 193598 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Bellingham, WA Vehicle: 2002 Bugeye Wagon PSM	I've never been charged going over. I'm thinking it might be because my car isn't canadian. Used it the entire season I raced up there and on our honeymoon. Wasn't charged in either car.

03-27-2014, 07:05 PM	#665
newtothescene Scooby Specialist Member#: 222368 Join Date: Sep 2009 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Tri-Cities Vehicle: 2006 WRX Limited CGM - SOLD	Yes, true. They probably don't bother. Plus I don't think they have any means of searching your licence as it would not be in our database further to Mr. Me..... which reminds me.. are you going to try to make it out this year with BeBop?

03-27-2014, 08:03 PM	#666
Mr. Me Scooby Specialist Member#: 193598 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Bellingham, WA Vehicle: 2002 Bugeye Wagon PSM	Possible. Depends on how the rest of this spring goes. I may try to co drive if I do make it up.

03-31-2014, 11:37 PM	#668
newtothescene Scooby Specialist Member#: 222368 Join Date: Sep 2009 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Tri-Cities Vehicle: 2006 WRX Limited CGM - SOLD	Just saw that you registered as that lonely ESP guy !!!

04-01-2014, 12:26 AM	#669
BeBop86 Scooby Guru Member#: 147776 Join Date: May 2007 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Seattle, WA Vehicle: 2001 Forester 2013 Scion FR-S	Well, I'm classed in ESP... But I'm fighting in OPAX this year.

04-01-2014, 12:12 PM	#671
Scooby921 Merci Buckets Moderator Member#: 88606 Join Date: Jun 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Michigan Vehicle: 2018 Grand Cherokee Velvet Red Pearl	Boost changes are still illegal in street touring, right? Don't most off-the-shelf Stage 1 tunes touch both boost and wastegate duty tables? Those wouldn't be legal. You'd need to tell / remind your tuner that he can only play with timing and fuel.

04-01-2014, 01:18 PM	#673
UWMechEngr Scooby Specialist Member#: 193756 Join Date: Nov 2008 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Spokane, WA Vehicle: 2005 LGT Wagon Silver	Pretty sure memmek2k was just using stage 1 & 2 to make a point about pricing.

04-01-2014, 05:44 PM	#675
ABQautoxer Scooby Specialist Member#: 198231 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Albuquerque, NM Vehicle: 2007 Not a Subaru	IMO don't bother until you get the downpipe, that changes everything.