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02-27-2010, 06:05 PM | #1 |
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Street Mod.
Are fender braces legal in the street modified class in SCCA?
Read the rule book twice now and it doesn't seem that it is outlawed.
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02-27-2010, 06:37 PM | #2 |
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I was under the impression that pretty much anything goes in Street Modified. Is that not the case?
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02-27-2010, 06:49 PM | #3 | |
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Not the case at all. |
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02-27-2010, 07:42 PM | #4 | |
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OK, yes many people are under the impression that SM is a catch all, but that is not correct. Thanks Ruff, let me check 17.2 again... |
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02-27-2010, 08:03 PM | #5 |
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really whos going to contest something they will never see. And your really only upgrading whats already there. You have increased spring rates that you need the additional bracing 10k+ springs?
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02-27-2010, 08:25 PM | #6 |
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yep 11k, 9k springs on cusco coilovers... It may not really provide that much difference but its not expensive to do...
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02-27-2010, 08:51 PM | #7 |
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02-27-2010, 09:32 PM | #8 |
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Fender braces are illegal in SM. If you had an STI you could put on the stiffer 07 STI ones via UD/BD though
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02-27-2010, 11:44 PM | #9 |
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Today I was asked about why I didn't upgrade my fender braces while putting on my new GC/Koni suspension and my lame excuse was that it wasn't SM legal for SCCA autox.
Hey, when are we going to get an SM sticky thread? Someone start one so I don't have to rely on the ESP/BSP/DSP/FSP/Project Mccanixxx build threads for what works and blah blah blah.... fwiw, 285/30/18 v710 on 18x10 +30 worked on my WRX Wagon today. This was with camber and caster maxed on GC camber/cater plates an slightly lower than stock ride height. They do stick out from the fender a wee bit though LOL! And how about turbo choice.?.?.? I have a vf43 and I love the fast spool but what can give me that low end with more power on a built 2.5? See, we need a sticky thread!!! |
02-28-2010, 12:11 AM | #10 | |
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At a local meet its not going to be challenged, at a national meet, its definitely going to be challenged. It is illegal, I've confirmed it with several people now. Mulva, I'll pm a mod I know and see what I can get done about that. I'd like to see one too. |
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02-28-2010, 12:29 AM | #11 | |
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02-28-2010, 12:56 AM | #12 |
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+1 for a SM thread! I would love to find out what others are doing compared to me
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02-28-2010, 11:17 PM | #13 |
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Well, we're stickied now!!!
Here's what I'm going with this season: 2002 WRX Wagon 257 short block 205 heads vf43 STi TMIC STi 565cc "pink" fuel injectors Walbro 255lpm fuel pump Full 3" Turboback w/ HiFlow Cat Catless Uppipe Cobb AP1 w/ Protune @ 18psi 310tq/280hp Samco inlet Stock Airbox Stock Solenoid Ground Control Complete Coilover Kit w/Koni 8611 DA's Eibach Springs 800 lb front/600 lb rear Ground Control Camber Plates f/r Hotchkis 25mm hollow sways f/r Hotchkis solid endlinks front Kartboy solid endlinks rear Whiteline Rear Strut Mount Brace Whiteline Rear Adjustable Control Arms and Lateral Links 2007 STi 6MT ACT HD Street Clutch ACT StreetLite Flywheel Carbonetic Rear 1.5 way LSD TiC Klunk Killer (race) TiC Tranny crossmember bushings Kartboy Shifter bushings Cusco Engine/Transmission mounts Whiteline Steering Rack Bushings Centric Rotors Hawk HP+ Pads ATE Brake Fluid Rota SVN-R 18x10 +30 Kumho V710 285/30/18 OZ Allegarritta 17x8 Dunlop Star Spec 245/40/17 (flood conditions ) Odyssey PC680MJ Battery Camber: -3.3* front/-2.2* rear Caster: 3.5* Toe: 0 Ride height: 14.3" front/14.2" rear Some pix can be seen here: http://azpinstalls.com/gallery/main....c/P1080341.JPG Tom Last edited by mulva; 03-24-2010 at 07:49 PM. Reason: forgot some stuff |
03-01-2010, 01:12 AM | #14 |
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The GC plates are great! When I first put them on with the stock camber bolts I was around -5 degrees in front hahaha. Copied over from my IWSTI journal
Engine Mods - Custom rotated mount uppipe and downpipe - Garrett gt3076r .63 ar turbo jethot coated - Tial 44mm wastegate - Tial Q BOV - PTP turbo blanket - Custom 4" intake - Gruppe-S equal length header - Turbosmart Dual Stage MBC - Perrin FMIC with stock bumper beam - Perrin lightweight crank pulley - Walbro 255lph fuel pump - 07 STI top feed fuel rails - 07 STI tgv deletes - Hondata intake manifold gaskets - RC engineering 1200cc injectors - Full 80mm Magnaflow Ti catback exhaust with Burns Stainless mufflers - Crawford Performance air/oil separator - Hydra Nemesis full standalone - Tune by Mike Warfield(GST Motorsports) on E85 fuel - Odyssey pc680 battery Suspension - Ground Control coilovers with Eibach and Hypercoil springs - koni 8611 double adjustable shocks - Ground Control camber plates front and rear - Whiteline 27-29mm swaybar front and rear - Kartboy rear endlinks - Group N lateral link bushings - Superpro trailing arm bushings - Whiteline roll center adjusters - Whiteline caster bushings Driveline - ACT hd street clutch - ACT streetlight flywheel - Group N motor and transmission mounts - TIC race rear differential bushings - TIC outrigger bushings - Cusco type rs 1.5 way rear LSD Exterior - Genuine V-limited front lip - Rolled and pulled front fenders - Extreme pull on rear fenders - Passenger side foglight housing Interior - Sparco Evo2 driver side seat - Sparco Pro2000 passenger seat - Buddyclub super low down seat rail(driver) - Wedge engineering/Sparco rails/sliders with aluminum sidemounts(passenger) - Innovate Motorsports LC-1 wideband with XD-16 gauge - Defi BF boost and oil pressure gauges with controller - ATI gauge pod - Rear seat removed Wheels/Brakes - SSR Type C RS 18x10.5" with Hoosier A6 295/30/18 tires - Stoptech front rotors - Hawk HP+ pads front and rear Karlton |
03-01-2010, 11:47 AM | #15 |
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The GC plates are great! When I first put them on with the stock camber bolts I was around -5 degrees in front hahaha.
Yeah, my 5 year old son asked what was up with my broken wheels. With the skinny 205 all-seasons on the car right now it just looks weird. I only took about a 20 mile ride since putting the coilovers on but the Koni DA's aren't that bad with the big spring rates. I haven't messed with the damping yet so it might be set to full soft, but still I was expecting these to be harsh from what Marc from GC was describing to me. Your car looks very set up even for SM. Sick!!! I'm getting there, but I'm going to see how I do with my current setup before putting more $$ into it. What's your power band like with the rotated 3076 and E85? Last year I was on street tires with 1.4* camber and RCE springs so stage 2 STi power (93 octane) was plenty but with everything stiffer, more camber, and big r-comps, I may be able to use more power than I have now. My local courses are mostly asphalt though. |
03-01-2010, 05:34 PM | #16 |
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stickied we are.
Lets see a couple more setups and I'll be posting mine shortly |
03-01-2010, 08:29 PM | #17 |
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Tony's 2005 WRX SM setup
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HKS hipower exhaust ERZ downpipe(heatwrapped) Gutted up-pipe FP td-05 18G 2008 STI intercooler fit to work with sti scoop and splitter bellows DW 750 Injectors 1 step colder iridium spark plugs silencer delete K&N drop in filter UTEC tuned by my future father in-law via UTI (Jeff's software) GMS aftamaf and turbo inlet Perrin Radiator shroud Cobb turbo heatshield Wlabro 255 Innovate LM-1 Wideband Currently running Hallman MBC but will be switching to grimmspeed ebcs Suspension and Brakes : Cusco zero 2r coilovers 11k, 9k springs Eibach Camber bolts Goodridge SS brake lines 04 STI Front Brembo brakes DBA 400 series slotted rotors and EBC yellow stuff pads Wheels and tires: Drag DR-31 gunmetal 17x9 Yokohama Advan A032R 255/40/17 Last edited by 904scooby; 03-19-2010 at 11:58 PM. |
03-02-2010, 11:47 PM | #18 | |
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I can get full spool around 3800 rpm and keeps pulling to redline. It's about as big of a turbo as I would run for autox. If e85 was available when I did all this turbo stuff, I probably woulda just stuck with my stock turbo or maybe an 18g or something. e85 is fun stuff Last edited by pignoseSTI; 03-03-2010 at 02:42 PM. |
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03-03-2010, 09:56 AM | #19 |
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03-03-2010, 11:46 AM | #20 | |
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03-04-2010, 02:03 AM | #21 |
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03-04-2010, 04:01 AM | #22 |
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which part? That they're illegal or you can ud to the 07 sti ones? If the latter yes it's true because you can ud to them in BSP and those rules carry over to SM
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03-04-2010, 10:13 AM | #23 |
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Unfortunately for anyone with an 01 or down you can't update though since the cars are on different lines. Means us old car drivers get the factory flimsy ones.
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