STU guys check in. Set ups - Page 12

BrianGT · 06-27-2007, 02:16 PM

what do you guys do for the downpipe to satisfy the emissions requirements?

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Crash477 · 06-27-2007, 02:40 PM

Catless downpipe, 1 high flow cat.. engine management to block CEL's.. should pass just fine

silver arrow · 06-27-2007, 06:22 PM

My new set up is going to be a Mini with R comps

Sold the STi. I almost cried when it drove away.

Crash477 · 06-28-2007, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver arrow

My new set up is going to be a Mini with R comps

Sold the STi. I almost cried when it drove away.

At least you still got a fun car.. it is the S right?

thrdeye · 06-28-2007, 11:39 AM

Crash, you gettin tuned this weekend??

Crash477 · 06-28-2007, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thrdeye

Crash, you gettin tuned this weekend??

maybe

amongst other things

thrdeye · 06-28-2007, 11:58 AM

Cool. ATL is the place to do that.

Crash477 · 06-28-2007, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thrdeye

Cool. ATL is the place to do that.

definitely NOT doing it in ATL.. after all I am a Boxer4Racing guy! lol

maxQ · 06-28-2007, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianGT

what do you guys do for the downpipe to satisfy the emissions requirements?

I trained a squirrel to subsist on a combination of hydrocarbons, carbon dioxide, and nitrogren oxide. He's noisy, stuffed in there like that, but problem solved!

Crash477 · 06-28-2007, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxQ

I trained a squirrel to subsist on a combination of hydrocarbons, carbon dioxide, and nitrogren oxide. He's noisy, stuffed in there like that, but problem solved!

so we have the trunk monkey, and now the Hi-flow squirrel

maxQ · 06-28-2007, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash477

so we have the trunk monkey, and now the Hi-flow squirrel

I named him Rocky.

bdi · 07-13-2007, 04:15 PM

Bump

Banannie,
How are you liking your setup? Make any changes? Have any feedback about the zz's

Also anyone have any feedback on the tarmac 2's thus far?

Banannie · 07-13-2007, 04:20 PM

I haven't driven the car on course yet, but my codriver(s) did at an event where it rained, and they did really, really well - I think they said "don't change anything" and "we giggled like schoolgirls..."

Steve knows his stuff!

silver arrow · 07-14-2007, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash477

At least you still got a fun car.. it is the S right?

No, regular MC. It's HS for me. An HS mini will embarrass alot of cars on an autocross course.

Crash477 · 07-15-2007, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver arrow

No, regular MC. It's HS for me. An HS mini will embarrass alot of cars on an autocross course.

Very true, I have seen it done many times!

adhowe70 · 07-15-2007, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crash477

Very true, its happened to me many times!

Fixed! At least that's the way it went up here in the NW when Keith Brown was pedalling his around.

darsh39 · 07-15-2007, 05:15 PM

05 STi
1. Stock Engine
2. Stock
3. Suspension: Strano FSB
4. -3.0 F 0 toe/-1.3 - zero toe
5. Azenis RT610

silver arrow · 07-15-2007, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darsh39

05 STi
1. Stock Engine
2. Stock
3. Suspension: Strano FSB
4. -3.0 F 0 toe/-1.3 - zero toe
5. Azenis RT610

How long have you been running the Stranos FSB with stock suspension. It is a really bad idea. Just do a search for Stranos or Addco FSB and you will find that stock suspension + crappy endlink design + possible failure of the lower A arm mounting tab. Switch to the Whiteline bar or get coilovers. I ran mine 2 years of autocrosses with 12k/10k springs with no problems, but soft or stock spring guys have been breaking A arms.

silver arrow · 07-15-2007, 10:38 PM

BTW, I want one of those Hi-flow squirrels. Where do you get them?

tuskenraider · 07-16-2007, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver arrow

How long have you been running the Stranos FSB with stock suspension. It is a really bad idea. Just do a search for Stranos or Addco FSB and you will find that stock suspension + crappy endlink design + possible failure of the lower A arm mounting tab. Switch to the Whiteline bar or get coilovers. I ran mine 2 years of autocrosses with 12k/10k springs with no problems, but soft or stock spring guys have been breaking A arms.

Thought that was more of an issue with guys running R-comps, not street tires.

BrianGT · 07-16-2007, 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuskenraider

Thought that was more of an issue with guys running R-comps, not street tires.

We have been running the Strano bar on our car for 2 seasons, and are on our second set of control arms. The bar is just a crappy design, and causes too much stress on the control arm tabs. I can't wait to get rid of it when we build up the car for STU after this season is over. Unfortunately, it does seem to work better with the stock springs/ohlins setup than the big whiteline bar that it replaced, so I hope that this set of control arms lasts until after Nationals... I guess I should keep another spare set on hand.

--
Brian
(car currently setup for AS)

Scoobie Doogie · 07-16-2007, 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianGT

We have been running the Strano bar on our car for 2 seasons, and are on our second set of control arms. The bar is just a crappy design, and causes too much stress on the control arm tabs. I can't wait to get rid of it when we build up the car for STU after this season is over. Unfortunately, it does seem to work better with the stock springs/ohlins setup than the big whiteline bar that it replaced, so I hope that this set of control arms lasts until after Nationals... I guess I should keep another spare set on hand.

--
Brian
(car currently setup for AS)

The bar is not a crappy design. Thomas Crapper did not design the bar, he designed the modern toilet.

Serously though, there is not a flaw in the design. It's simply that it WORKS very well at what it's supposed to do and the A-arms can't take the stress. If you remove the stress then the bar doesn't work. So, you are complaining that it works too well. The fact that the tabs break is no fault of the bar or Subaru's A-arm. You are using the A-arm with a non-Subaru spec bar with non-Subaru spec tires and driving in a parking lot like a maniac like the rest of us do. Poop happens. Don't blame the parts YOU added.

BrianGT · 07-16-2007, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoobie Doogie

The bar is not a crappy design. Thomas Crapper did not design the bar, he designed the modern toilet.

Serously though, there is not a flaw in the design. It's simply that it WORKS very well at what it's supposed to do and the A-arms can't take the stress. If you remove the stress then the bar doesn't work. So, you are complaining that it works too well. The fact that the tabs break is no fault of the bar or Subaru's A-arm. You are using the A-arm with a non-Subaru spec bar with non-Subaru spec tires and driving in a parking lot like a maniac like the rest of us do. Poop happens. Don't blame the parts YOU added.

The main issue with the bar is the end link design. Using the right angle brackets to attach to the control arm tabs causes a lot of stress to the tab. The bushings also seem to quickly wear out, which can cause the bar to touch the right angle brackets, causing more stress.

After we broke the tabs, we picked up a new set of endlinks from Strano, which are physically longer, and alleviate the metal-to-metal contact issue with the bushings wear, but as a side effect, they put more twisting forces on the right angle brackets since they the connection is longer, requiring constant tightening of the bracket connection bolts. The bushings also look quite worn after running them for 1 month...

Anyway, no need to hijack this thread talking about the Strano bar.. read the long thread about all of the issues others have had.

--
Brian

silver arrow · 07-16-2007, 10:19 AM

The mounting tabs and shock loads from in binding are what cause the breakage. Even guys on street tires have broken the tabs with stock springs. It IS a crappy design and even when the problems were brought to Stranos they were very unresponsive and never came up with a fix. Many guys came up with better endlink designs and have had better luck with the bar.

pjhe · 07-16-2007, 10:54 AM

alright currently i'm just running whiteline front and rear bars with kartboy endlinks and an cobb AP with a custom torque map that just plays with timing and doesn't touch boost.

my setup plans will be a bit compromised as the car also seeing rallycross duties in PA class so some components will be limited to be legal in each class. the 2 classes do mirror each other fairly well though.

I'm looking to add
group N bushings and mounts all the way around
springs- RCE "otherguy" black springs (ask my splitters why i can't lower the car

)
struts i'm really torn on, for autocross i'd go ohlins fixed perch but the valving is all wrong for rallycross so i'm staying stock for now and checking into other options...although i feel there may be a setting on them i didn't get to try that could be *right* for playing in the dirtt as well
RCE camber plates that do not lower the car (although from what i've gathered these *may* not be needed as you can get a quality camber setup on the stock bolts)
burscher racing turboback with high flow squirrel
i have some subaru bucks laying around that i'll put towards some SPT lateral links/trailing arms (again i'd love to see SPT come up with an upgraded strut package for the 05 sti that is an improvement for dirt/gravel and tarmac but they is no catch up valving for those conditions)
rubber wise i like the 615's but the 01R's seem to really be living up to the buzz around them

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06-27-2007, 02:16 PM	#276
BrianGT Scooby Newbie Member#: 75339 Join Date: Nov 2004 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Atlanta, GA	what do you guys do for the downpipe to satisfy the emissions requirements? * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

06-27-2007, 02:40 PM	#277
Crash477 Scooby Guru Member#: 49881 Join Date: Dec 2003 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Knoxville, TN Vehicle: 2006 Subaru STi 1989 BMW 325is	Catless downpipe, 1 high flow cat.. engine management to block CEL's.. should pass just fine

06-27-2007, 06:22 PM	#278
silver arrow Scooby Specialist Member#: 25859 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Foriderp Vehicle: 1965 MGB yellow 2008 Black Miata	My new set up is going to be a Mini with R comps Sold the STi. I almost cried when it drove away.

06-28-2007, 11:39 AM	#280
thrdeye Scooby Specialist Member#: 24569 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: East Tennessee Vehicle: 2004 Mazda RX8 Titanium	Crash, you gettin tuned this weekend??

06-28-2007, 11:58 AM	#282
thrdeye Scooby Specialist Member#: 24569 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: East Tennessee Vehicle: 2004 Mazda RX8 Titanium	Cool. ATL is the place to do that.

07-13-2007, 04:15 PM	#287
bdi Scooby Specialist Member#: 66033 Join Date: Jul 2004 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: San Dergo, CA Vehicle: 05 STi	Bump Banannie, How are you liking your setup? Make any changes? Have any feedback about the zz's Also anyone have any feedback on the tarmac 2's thus far?

07-13-2007, 04:20 PM	#288
Banannie Scooby Newbie Member#: 101199 Join Date: Nov 2005 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Seattle, WA Vehicle: 2013 BRZ Black	I haven't driven the car on course yet, but my codriver(s) did at an event where it rained, and they did really, really well - I think they said "don't change anything" and "we giggled like schoolgirls..." Steve knows his stuff!

07-15-2007, 05:15 PM	#292
darsh39 Scooby Newbie Member#: 153928 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: In Ma Car Vehicle: 1994 Subaru WRX	05 STi 1. Stock Engine 2. Stock 3. Suspension: Strano FSB 4. -3.0 F 0 toe/-1.3 - zero toe 5. Azenis RT610

07-15-2007, 10:38 PM	#294
silver arrow Scooby Specialist Member#: 25859 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Foriderp Vehicle: 1965 MGB yellow 2008 Black Miata	BTW, I want one of those Hi-flow squirrels. Where do you get them?

07-16-2007, 10:19 AM	#299
silver arrow Scooby Specialist Member#: 25859 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Foriderp Vehicle: 1965 MGB yellow 2008 Black Miata	The mounting tabs and shock loads from in binding are what cause the breakage. Even guys on street tires have broken the tabs with stock springs. It IS a crappy design and even when the problems were brought to Stranos they were very unresponsive and never came up with a fix. Many guys came up with better endlink designs and have had better luck with the bar.

07-16-2007, 10:54 AM	#300
pjhe Scooby Specialist Member#: 81725 Join Date: Feb 2005 Chapter/Region: MAIC Vehicle: 73 zcar amidst ls2 swap	alright currently i'm just running whiteline front and rear bars with kartboy endlinks and an cobb AP with a custom torque map that just plays with timing and doesn't touch boost. my setup plans will be a bit compromised as the car also seeing rallycross duties in PA class so some components will be limited to be legal in each class. the 2 classes do mirror each other fairly well though. I'm looking to add group N bushings and mounts all the way around springs- RCE "otherguy" black springs (ask my splitters why i can't lower the car ) struts i'm really torn on, for autocross i'd go ohlins fixed perch but the valving is all wrong for rallycross so i'm staying stock for now and checking into other options...although i feel there may be a setting on them i didn't get to try that could be right for playing in the dirtt as well RCE camber plates that do not lower the car (although from what i've gathered these may not be needed as you can get a quality camber setup on the stock bolts) burscher racing turboback with high flow squirrel i have some subaru bucks laying around that i'll put towards some SPT lateral links/trailing arms (again i'd love to see SPT come up with an upgraded strut package for the 05 sti that is an improvement for dirt/gravel and tarmac but they is no catch up valving for those conditions) rubber wise i like the 615's but the 01R's seem to really be living up to the buzz around them