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Old 06-13-2020, 10:30 PM   #26
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The saga continues. I removed everything in my garage. Then I helped a buddy install a lift and moved the car to his garage for the transmission install.

I got the old clutch and flywheel out tonight and then got the new flywheel in.

I have now discovered a few minor issues.

1. I'm installing an ACT that had about 10k miles on it. I need an ACT clutch alignment tool (AT90). They are easy to find for 4 bucks... plus 10 bucks shipping, which just irks me. Anyone have a better solution?

2. My WRX had 6 pressure plate bolts. New pressure plate has 9. Again - bought clutch and pressure plate (slightly) used so didn't come with alignment tool or bolts.

3. There is a plate at the bottom of the engine that continues under the transmission. It worked fine with the (smaller) WRX clutch but is in the way of installing the new pressure plate. Help? See pics below.

As always, thanks in advance for any and all advice.


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Old 06-13-2020, 10:36 PM   #27
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People I've discussed this with said they just removed the plate;I did the same. True story, I bent this plate and sandwiched it when I reinstalled the transmission. I thought my car was going to explode when I started the car up.

Also, since you're waiting on the alignment tool, you might as well get new oem bearings for the TOB and the pilot bearing. You don't want to have an annoying chatter or whine 4 months from now and have to open things back up.
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Old 06-13-2020, 10:58 PM   #28
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People I've discussed this with said they just removed the plate;I did the same. True story, I bent this plate and sandwiched it when I reinstalled the transmission. I thought my car was going to explode when I started the car up.

Also, since you're waiting on the alignment tool, you might as well get new oem bearings for the TOB and the pilot bearing. You don't want to have an annoying chatter or whine 4 months from now and have to open things back up.
Removal was definitely something I was considering. Do STIs just not have them? This six swap is a REAL voyage of discovery.

Thanks for the info on the TOB and pilot bearing. You wouldn't happen to be able to recommend where I should get these by any chance, would you?

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Old 06-13-2020, 11:00 PM   #29
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Removal was definitely something I was considering. Do STIs just not have them? This six swap is a REAL voyage of discovery.

Thanks for the info on the TOB and pilot bearing. You wouldn't happen to be able to recommend where I should get these by any chance, would you?

Oh! Whoops. The clutch I bought (about 10k miles) came with a new (well, 10k old) throwout bearing. Where is the pilot bearing?
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Old 06-13-2020, 11:02 PM   #30
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Removal was definitely something I was considering. Do STIs just not have them? This six swap is a REAL voyage of discovery.

Thanks for the info on the TOB and pilot bearing. You wouldn't happen to be able to recommend where I should get these by any chance, would you?

not sure about that plate specific to STI folks

going oem is the best for the TOB and pilot bearings.

The pilot is the one in the center of the flywheel.

well, if you're in a timecrunch, I'd just call one of your local dealers Monday to check for stock and then just pick them up. Otherwise, I'm sure you can order them online somewhere. I always just get the part numbers and search amazon and ebay first.
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Old 06-13-2020, 11:04 PM   #31
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Oh! Whoops. The clutch I bought (about 10k miles) came with a new (well, 10k old) throwout bearing. Where is the pilot bearing?
Oh! In the clutch plate. Got it. Sorry - should have looked that up before asking. Again, however, with only 10k on it, is this totally necessary? I get the "I don't want to take it right back apart again" aspect, but wouldn't have expected a lot of wear in that many miles....
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Old 06-13-2020, 11:08 PM   #32
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Oh! In the clutch plate. Got it. Sorry - should have looked that up before asking. Again, however, with only 10k on it, is this totally necessary? I get the "I don't want to take it right back apart again" aspect, but wouldn't have expected a lot of wear in that many miles....
It would depend if it was oem or was it the one that came with the ACT clutch kit. Chances are it's the one that came from the kit.

That's just my personal recommendation or what I would do because of my prior experience.
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Old 06-13-2020, 11:10 PM   #33
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It would depend if it was oem or was it the one that came with the ACT clutch kit. Chances are it's the one that came from the kit.

That's just my personal recommendation or what I would do because of my prior experience.
OK. Food for thought. Thanks. I did find the bolts and the alignment tool for a VERY reasonable price at fastwrx.com.

I'll take a close look at those bearings based on your recommendation. The TOB looked to me like it came with the clutch kit but I will check with the seller, who is local. I'll ask about the pilot bearing while I am at it. Thanks for the advice!
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Old 06-14-2020, 08:48 AM   #34
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Removal was definitely something I was considering. Do STIs just not have them? ...
Yes. There is a specific plate that is formed to clear the larger 6MT pressure plate.
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Old 06-14-2020, 10:36 AM   #35
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Yes. There is a specific plate that is formed to clear the larger 6MT pressure plate.


Ah. Figures. Do you know what it’s called? That way I can see if I can find one.
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Old 06-14-2020, 03:54 PM   #37
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“Inspection cover” is what I heard it was called. So that one looks like they took mi e and cut a hole in it. I might just take mine off and cut a hole in it. However, after that point I am not sure why I would bother reinstalling it.

Regardless, thank you very much for the info!
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Old 06-18-2020, 08:02 PM   #38
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Wow, I don't even remember having to do anything with the inspection cover when I did my swap. I also ran just the 6 PP bolts on my swap and it was fine for the last 5k miles.
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Old 06-25-2020, 05:31 PM   #39
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***UPDATE***

Six is in. Running and driving. I installed a MAPDCCD Advanced Wheel Speed sensor today and got the speedo working. However, I initially tapped the wrong wire on the ECM and sent +/- 5 volts to it. D'OH!

Now the stereo is acting weird and not working (just cycling on and off) and the low fuel light seems confused. Looking at the pinouts, it is possible that I sent that voltage to something in the fuel gauge system. I'm a moron.

Also the cruise control seems confused. I am sending the wheel speed sensor data to the ECM at the speed sensor location (pin terminal number 13 on B136). The cruise control will work initially, but then stops working and the cruise light starts blinking (though I am getting no codes from my cobb). Then, upon power cycling the vehicle, the cruise seems to work again. Any wisdom on this would be appreciated.

Otherwise, the car is running and driving pretty well. I definitely prefer the 6 to the 5.

Now a weird (and weirdly lucky though unrelated) thing:

I'm sitting in the garage, trying to figure out what is up with the stereo and I push the brake pedal. I hear a "pop" and it goes to the floor. Sucks, but MUCH better to happen sitting in the garage rather than on the track or (worse) taking a drive through curvy Arkansas back roads.

Hole in the (stainless braided goodridge!) driver's rear brake line. It looks like it was rubbing against the rear wheel and was worn through.

Here's a question:

I assume those should be replaced in pairs (and, in any event, it seems they can only be bought in pairs) at least? But goodridge dealers in the US only sell them all four at a time.

Can I replace the rears with another brand of stainless? I am looking at Stoptech. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Thanks!

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Old 06-28-2020, 05:46 PM   #40
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Default Six Swap Phase 1 mostly complete.

Thought I would post a few pics of the six in the vehicle plus video the speedo working.











Finally, I'm exhausted.





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Congrats, it's a good feeling.

You can put whatever SS line on you want, you don't have to match brands.
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Old 06-29-2020, 02:47 PM   #42
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Congrats, it's a good feeling.

You can put whatever SS line on you want, you don't have to match brands.
It IS a good feeling, that would be even better if I could drive the car (frickin' brake line <shakes fist>).

Thanks for the answer! I ordered some stoptechs for the rears (now if only the seller would SHIP them)....

Now, however, I am also awaiting a meth injector (whee) and filter that will take me most of the rest of the way to E85 (just fuel lines and mix detector or something? I am less psyched about e85 than meth injection, tbh). That's likely going to have me approaching 375-400 WHP, which means I am now going to break an axle or my R160 if I am not careful, so it looks like phase 2 will need to happen sooner rather than later.

Those horsepower numbers are ESTIMATES (have NOT had it on a dyno, so I can't be SURE) but several people I trust have had the same basic opinions that I am likely close to 350 WHP now. I, however, am not qualified to opine.

I just know she's FAST (when she's not languishing in the garage, that is).
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congrats. and I'm so jealous you have access to a lift.
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Old 06-30-2020, 02:34 PM   #44
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congrats. and I'm so jealous you have access to a lift.
A buddy of mine (the one who got me into Subarus by loaning me his stage 2.5 2005 STi) decided to rent a garage. I rent some space in it from him for an old 914 but also for access to the garage. We installed that lift about 2 weeks ago.

They are SURPRISINGLY CHEAP (the one in the picture was $1999 delivered) and pretty easy to install. The real problem is just having enough roof clearance.

My wife is an architect, and we're designing a home (well, we've done that several times and not been able to afford to build one yet). But since I found out how much lifts cost, every garage she designs is required to have a 15 foot ceiling just in case.

In much the same way I wondered how I had lived my entire life without air tools, I have been wondering, the past couple of weeks, how I lived without a lift.
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A buddy of mine (the one who got me into Subarus by loaning me his stage 2.5 2005 STi) decided to rent a garage. I rent some space in it from him for an old 914 but also for access to the garage. We installed that lift about 2 weeks ago.

They are SURPRISINGLY CHEAP (the one in the picture was $1999 delivered) and pretty easy to install. The real problem is just having enough roof clearance.

My wife is an architect, and we're designing a home (well, we've done that several times and not been able to afford to build one yet). But since I found out how much lifts cost, every garage she designs is required to have a 15 foot ceiling just in case.

In much the same way I wondered how I had lived my entire life without air tools, I have been wondering, the past couple of weeks, how I lived without a lift.
Beautiful! Now I'll know who to contact to design my future house!
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Old 07-01-2020, 12:40 AM   #46
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Beautiful! Now I'll know who to contact to design my future house!
When I met her she lived in Brooklyn, so I am sure she would relish the chance to come back to New York (not that you're necessarily in the city, but I'm sure you're a lot closer than Arkansas).
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Born and raised in the city, moved to Queens and now I'm in Long Island.

Enjoy that new 6-speed
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Old 07-04-2020, 01:13 PM   #48
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Saga continues. I think I damaged the ECU when I miswired when first trying to hook up the wheel speed sensor. Be careful with electrical, boys and girls.

I posted a longish story about it on the electrical thread.

Wish me luck.

Maybe I can just replace the ecu. Here's hoping.
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you seem like you know what your doing. These trans go at around 850 whp and 700 wtq. Fourth gear. Other than that shes a beast.
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