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Old 03-24-2017, 08:44 PM   #3926
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Old 03-26-2017, 08:26 AM   #3927
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I got this from coworkers as well. "Hey guys what do you think of the Golf R? $40k for a Golf, no thanks".
Yeah, it's a car to impress car guys and fly under the radar in public. To impress coworkers get an Audi Q5.
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Old 03-26-2017, 08:44 AM   #3928
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It will always be subjective. I would pay 40k for a Golf.
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Old 03-26-2017, 10:21 AM   #3929
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Yeah, it's a car to impress car guys and fly under the radar in public. To impress coworkers get an Audi Q5.
I'll keep that in mind if I ever try to impress coworkers.
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Old 03-27-2017, 01:16 AM   #3930
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I got this from coworkers as well. "Hey guys what do you think of the Golf R? $40k for a Golf, no thanks".
Heard the same. Heard same thing about the RS (40k for a Focus). The R is worth what they ask for it, if you can get below msrp. What people forget is the R comes pretty loaded. The only trims we get are loaded. The R is an outstanding car. Stock audio is sick, interior is sick, sound deadening. 40k is a good deal for it, all in. It has an Audi interior and premium audio you don't need to touch.

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Old 03-27-2017, 12:41 PM   #3931
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Heard the same. Heard same thing about the RS (40k for a Focus). The R is worth what they ask for it, if you can get below msrp. What people forget is the R comes pretty loaded. The only trims we get are loaded. The R is an outstanding car. Stock audio is sick, interior is sick, sound deadening. 40k is a good deal for it, all in. It has an Audi interior and premium audio you don't need to touch.

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Yea, all of the cars in this small segment fall under the same category... They're basically modified econoboxes that come with factory warranties. Instead of buying a base level econobox and doing the work yourself, you get one that's been engineered by a manufacturer and it comes with related warranties. Adding awd like the case of the R and RS is elevating things a bit, but adding awd isn't unheard of in the aftermarket realm (search corrado haldex swaps ).

Basically playing to the former FnF fans, who are now grown up and have money. Some people can justify the added cost for added performance, others want "status" to come with the increased cost.

Personally, I'm getting fed-up with the flatbillers who want to race. Everything from civics to saleen mustangs try to bait me all the time. I wouldn't mind a more under-the-radar car like the R.
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Old 03-27-2017, 12:55 PM   #3932
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I've never liked the fast and the festerment. Ronin is a better car film than that trash series.
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Old 03-27-2017, 01:03 PM   #3933
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Personally, I'm getting fed-up with the flatbillers who want to race. Everything from civics to saleen mustangs try to bait me all the time. I wouldn't mind a more under-the-radar car like the R.
I don't have this problem with my R. On the other hand, I rarely had it in my STI. But I'm getting old to when I sweat with the windows down when I drive the AC goes on and I have 5% all the way around.
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Old 03-27-2017, 01:15 PM   #3934
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Paying more upfront is better in the long run. Most, if not all, tint shops have several tint options. The most expensive one never fades and blocks the most heat. They have a little demo box sitting on the front counter with a bright light. You can spin the wheel to each trim level and feel for yourself how much U/V heat is being blocked.

Also, buying a car in the lighter color spectrum helps with interior temps.
When I had the white Golf parked next to the blue one outside last summer, both with sunshades across the windshield, the blue R was significantly hotter inside than the TDI (same window tint on each car, all windows and a strip across the windshield). Personally, I could never live with a black car, and the Lapis Blue may as well be black in the hotter months (mentioned earlier in this thread I should've bought the oryx white).
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Old 03-27-2017, 01:19 PM   #3935
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If I was in the market for an AWD 4-door, the Golf R would be it. I do like it. However, it is pretty dang sedate looking and REALLY blends into the scenery. About the only thing a non-car person would take note of is "the pretty wheels".

Lots of guys love saying they have a sleeper car that can surprise more aggressive looking and iconic performance cars. My personnel experience over 20+ years of modding and racing cars is that owners of sleeper cars tend to be far more inclined to prove to you just how fast their car is.

I like elegantly styled and somewhat restrained aggressive looking performance cars. I want my car to look sporty to match it's sporting performance. Most Golf R owners go for a more aggressive look by adding wider/larger rims, aero enhancements, lowering kits, really loud exhausts, etc. In the end, they really do want to be seen and respected and to get the point across that their car is quick/fast. With my M235, most gearheads assume it's modded and runs 11s, largely because the factory optional exhaust is fairly loud, exotic sounding, and aggressive with pops/burbles. The OEM M2 airbox also makes for more turbo hissing and wastegate noises. The car is stock otherwise. I prefer my car to look and sound fast.....though it's really not. LOL

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Old 03-27-2017, 03:53 PM   #3936
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If I was in the market for an AWD 4-door, the Golf R would be it. I do like it. However, it is pretty dang sedate looking and REALLY blends into the scenery. About the only thing a non-car person would take note of is "the pretty wheels".

Lots of guys love saying they have a sleeper car that can surprise more aggressive looking and iconic performance cars. My personnel experience over 20+ years of modding and racing cars is that owners of sleeper cars tend to be far more inclined to prove to you just how fast their car is.

I like elegantly styled and somewhat restrained aggressive looking performance cars. I want my car to look sporty to match it's sporting performance. Most Golf R owners go for a more aggressive look by adding wider/larger rims, aero enhancements, lowering kits, really loud exhausts, etc. In the end, they really do want to be seen and respected and to get the point across that their car is quick/fast. With my M235, most gearheads assume it's modded and runs 11s, largely because the factory optional exhaust is fairly loud, exotic sounding, and aggressive with pops/burbles. The OEM M2 airbox also makes for more turbo hissing and wastegate noises. The car is stock otherwise. I prefer my car to look and sound fast.....though it's really not. LOL
http://www.oettinger.com/en/produkte...-7/karosserie/

Just add some of their kits. Golf R should have had some of this from the factory but the Oettinger stuff is awesome. I read that for 2018 VW has partnered with them and you can order your car with the various aero goodies.
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Old 03-27-2017, 03:55 PM   #3937
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I want my car to look sporty to match it's sporting performance. Most Golf R owners go for a more aggressive look by adding wider/larger rims, aero enhancements, lowering kits, really loud exhausts, etc.
I'd probably do some minor aero work, but I have enjoyed owning a peppy car with a stock exhaust. I get the luxury of romping on it without alerting everyone of my shenanigans.
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Old 03-27-2017, 03:56 PM   #3938
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I read that for 2018 VW has partnered with them and you can order your car with the various aero goodies.
Was there mention if that option would be coming to the USDM?
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Old 03-27-2017, 10:05 PM   #3939
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Took my sedan version of the golf R (s3) to the track (Summit Point main circuit) last Friday and really enjoyed it. The car is stock performance wise minus castrol SRF brake fluid, 034 dogbone mount and a resonator delete.

I'd never done a track day prior to this and hope to do many more!

I put some vids up incase anyone is interested. They aren't edited and have some convo with my instructor. Next time i'll work on getting some data logging into the vids but when i pushed I got up to ~115 on the main straight.

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Watched a couple laps, good job! Was the tranny in 'S' or manual mode?
Also, I'm jealous. I'd enjoy taking the R to a track, but I think the closest one is Willow Springs, and with all the desert dust and track debris, a clear bra would be needed before tracking the car.
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Watched a couple laps, good job! Was the tranny in 'S' or manual mode?
Also, I'm jealous. I'd enjoy taking the R to a track, but I think the closest one is Willow Springs, and with all the desert dust and track debris, a clear bra would be needed before tracking the car.
Thanks, it's been on my bucket list for ~15 years now. I finally got back into a car that got me interested!

The first run or two I was in auto/sport mode, the last two I was doing full manual. Figured I'd learn the track a little before adding the shifting. I love manual mode and use it probably 1/2 the time in daily driving.

I'd love to do a clear bra and some paint protection. I priced it out and it was steep. Suntek film (full front end) and paint correction/protection (Gtechniq) was like ~2,500. More than I wanted to spend at the moment!
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Good thing you went with the track pack.
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Old 03-27-2017, 10:45 PM   #3943
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Good thing you went with the track pack.
Yes. I have the black optic package which has mag ride. I really like it.
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Heard the same. Heard same thing about the RS (40k for a Focus). The R is worth what they ask for it, if you can get below msrp. What people forget is the R comes pretty loaded. The only trims we get are loaded. The R is an outstanding car. Stock audio is sick, interior is sick, sound deadening. 40k is a good deal for it, all in. It has an Audi interior and premium audio you don't need to touch.

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I envy your geographical location sir. Both the alternatives here are both scarce and over priced. Oh well, maybe next time.
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I envy your geographical location sir. Both the alternatives here are both scarce and over priced. Oh well, maybe next time.
Sucks you are so isolated. Washington state is closest and that's still a trek, 2000+ miles.
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Sucks you are so isolated. Washington state is closest and that's still a trek, 2000+ miles.
and AWD vehicles demand a premium in WA. Dealers don't like to budge on AWD cars because they'll sell at full MSRP regardless. Local ford dealers are still asking for 5K ADM on the RS around here, as of last check. Websites are listing MSRP on Golf R's, but there are very few in stock, they're all on their way, so it's likely MSRP or walk.
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Watched a couple laps, good job! Was the tranny in 'S' or manual mode?
Also, I'm jealous. I'd enjoy taking the R to a track, but I think the closest one is Willow Springs, and with all the desert dust and track debris, a clear bra would be needed before tracking the car.
Cover the bumper in painters tape or automotive masking tape. Cheap, easy and works fine for a track day.
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