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05-18-2010, 04:12 AM | #1 | |
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05-18-2010, 04:16 AM | #2 |
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splendid..wonder what the price difference will be and if they will beef the tranny up any. I feel like we are being left in the dust ! I also wonder if they will adjust anything on the 370z since it's getting romped in the HP area by newer model vehicles.
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05-18-2010, 06:37 AM | #3 |
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The only thing that needs adjustment on the 370Z is the too-high price.
The VQ is already at its limit, so don't expect more power... |
05-18-2010, 10:04 AM | #4 |
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I really like the GT-R and had once thought about getting one used at some point but the maintence cost alone is crazy, after about 20k miles or so depending on use (alot lower with track use of course) you need to replace the rotars and pads with a dealer price of $6k or aftermarket of over $3k (parts alone on the aftermarket).
Let alone all the various fluid flushes and special maintenance required. While it has supercar performance for a much more modest entry price it also has supercar maintence costs to go with it. |
05-18-2010, 10:09 AM | #5 |
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05-18-2010, 10:30 AM | #6 |
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And $38K for an STi isn't too much?
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05-18-2010, 10:51 AM | #7 |
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Actually, it has been shown via aftermarket that the VQ is not at it's limit even at 3.5L. It was just easier and cheaper to get a power increase with a displacement change vs other engineering options not including F/I.
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05-18-2010, 11:23 AM | #8 | |
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Enough to drive many who do not know to go poking around for aftermarket options for cheaper replacement parts away from the car. Unfortunately, if one wants supercar performance, you kinda have to pay the piper... |
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05-18-2010, 11:30 AM | #9 |
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Wonder if it'll be faster than the LF-A. That'd make it even more of a failure.
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05-18-2010, 11:33 AM | #10 |
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It almost doesn't even matter, the LF-A is so absurdly overpriced. The only thing I give to Lexus on that one is the LF-A V10 sounds amazing. GT-R sounds pretty awesome too but damn that V10 is like car porn.
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05-18-2010, 11:51 AM | #11 | |
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05-18-2010, 12:38 PM | #12 |
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of course it is. i wouldnt pay more than $29k for a new one considering what you can get for that kinda money these days: mustang gt, camaro ss...etc.
but speaking of overpriced cars, carrera4, weighing over 3200lb and having only 345 hp, its sticker starts at $85k. thats what i call insane. for that price i think it should weigh only 2800 lb having only 345 hp... but then again we all know how much the GT2 costs. |
05-18-2010, 01:07 PM | #13 |
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Your arguments on the LF-A are dumb, true story. The car has been discussed at length in here and if you did your research you would know why they did it. And why it cost so much. Its not in the same class nor should it be compared to a GT-R.
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05-18-2010, 05:24 PM | #14 | |
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The 3.5/3.7L VQ's are MUDEROUS on oil. Unless it goes dry-sump oiling, the VQ is essentially tapped-out. The aftermarket cares not a whit about a factory warranty... |
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05-18-2010, 06:20 PM | #15 | |
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Think some more. DCT transmissions? F1 trickle down tech. Knowledge gained from building the LF-A could in the future be used to downsize without sacrificing performance, etc. etc.. Anywayyyy, GTR are secks and the VQ is a POS. |
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05-18-2010, 06:37 PM | #16 |
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Good news. It would be nice to see if they made a real lightweight version too.
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05-18-2010, 11:28 PM | #17 |
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To build on your point... 911 Turbo shouldn't be compared either IMHO - completely different car and demographic. I might consider a 911 TT for a DD, but I wouldn't consider a GTR. However, of the people running in my local car circles - those who would/did buy a GTR love to compare it to the 911 TT
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Well, the higher-end STIs will come in at that, though of course the STI Special Edition starts at $32,995. I believe the base models were being discussed. Quote:
But I'm sure you understand why they get compared. Their performance, while delivered in completely different manners, is pretty comparable, despite their significantly different price tags and target demographics. Even publications like Road & Track mixed it up like that at times, having an issue where they did that with an Evo IX MR and a Cayman S, out of all pairings. One was twice the price of the car that ended up being quicker around their test track. |
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05-19-2010, 03:41 PM | #19 |
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You can have that GT-R right now with an exhaust and tune to 530 HP EZ
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05-19-2010, 08:34 PM | #20 |
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since when do they price cars based on power/weight ratios??
are the price of your pants based on how much fabric and thread was used to make them?? |
05-19-2010, 08:48 PM | #21 |
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05-19-2010, 08:50 PM | #22 |
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05-20-2010, 12:39 AM | #23 |
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Come to think of it, the front of the Gtr looks kind of bland.
The back is still pretty. A new facelift will make it come alive again. |
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agreed. the GTR is very similar to the concept. and the concept came out in what, 2006? i mean the most i've seen this car is in magazines but its definitely time for a facelift.
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05-20-2010, 12:51 AM | #25 | |
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