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Old 02-25-2003, 11:01 PM   #1
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Default Cool Jobs you can get with a Business Degree in Marketing or Managment

Hey guys,
Just wondering if you know of any cool jobs or fields that I can get into with a BS in business.

I've been accepted to a couple schools. Probably go to Illinois State University though. And I feel a little over my head looking at majors and stuff.

Just looking for some advice from people who have experience and if your in the fields, how do you like it and what do you reccomend.

Anything in the car industry would be cool as well.

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Old 02-25-2003, 11:19 PM   #2
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Yeah I'm quite interested in this as well. I've switched my major to business with either an emphasis in either banking and finance or marketing. Trouble is I don't know what kind of jobs I could get or how much I could expect to make out of school.

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I don't know, honestly.

The route I'm taking is an undergrad in Poli Sci and Comp Sci. I have about 3 years post-undergrad work experience as a programmer now and I'm trying to get into grad school for an MBA/MIS combo program.

I think this is a good route to take. You'll eventually need an MBA to make it in the business world anyhow, so why waste your undergrad on something you'll cover in grad school? I say use undergrad to expand your horizons. Major in something relatively practical, and minor in BA.
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Old 02-25-2003, 11:52 PM   #4
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WRXImprezYa - go where you feel is the best school for you. you're probably going to be there for 4 years, so make sure it's the right place and you're comfortable with things like teaching style, location, student body demographics, and culture. changing majors isn't a big deal and many of the requirements overlap from one major to another.

FaastLegacy - business concentrating in banking and finance or marketing is pretty broad. there are a lot of options which include corporate finance, retail banking, investment banking, and asset management (sorry, don't know much about marketing). what are you looking for in a job/career? and try looking online or in a bookstore for info. i found a book years ago that described the basics of each field and typical workers and workdays.

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marketing and management degrees are pretty broad so you can do just about anything. I would say try to minor in accounting or finance, there was a study done that says companies are now looking for people with accounting knowledge.
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Old 02-26-2003, 12:00 AM   #6
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layman makes a good point about using college to expand your horizons. chances are, you've never before been around such a diverse group of people in your life. take advantage of it. i know i learned more about life, people, and myself out of class than i did in it.
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Old 02-26-2003, 12:09 AM   #7
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Just get some good internships! You'll hear about networking for the next few years. IT'S ALL TRUE. College is for crap if you don't come out with some good connections. Even more so in any of the business majors. An internship can be the difference between getting a good job with a big firm, and doing desktop pub. for the same crappy $23.5k as the geek with no degree sitting at the next comp over. The first has a future, the second has you living in your parents basement for three years before you come to your senses quit that POS job for a telemarketing job with Progressive and marry a french crackhead who drives an old Geo and likes cats.
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Old 02-26-2003, 12:19 AM   #8
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I double majoring in business admin and history as well as minoring in entrepreneurship. Basically I'm doing anything and everything I can do to avoid working in a cubicle. With a strong business background- which covers everything from management to accounting to marketing and etc, I want to use entrepreneurship to open a motorsports shop back home.

History is there as a back up in case the shop flops I'm sure I can teach at a HS somewhere.

So basically, for you new freshman, if you don't want to do the 10 year plan in college, don't double major!!! jk I should be out with only 1 extra semester.
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Old 02-26-2003, 12:36 AM   #9
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As far as going to the college I like, I really like the ISU campus and stuff about it.
I reall think that marketing and advertising would be something that would intrest me.

My deal is I would like to make myself in demand as far as empoyers go. I've have a good work ethic so, I really wanna make the most out of my college experience.

So I'm just looking for something ill enjoy and make a decent penny doing so.

One of you guys mentioned accounting or finance minors, which are both offered as minors at ISU. How are these courses if you've taken them?
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Old 02-26-2003, 01:27 AM   #10
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The degree doesn't actually mean a whole lot to me. Immeadiately after college I plan on going to a flight academy with the long term goal of flying for a major airline. Most majors want a four year degree hence where I am at now. It's also good back-up in case the airline industry wants to take a dump like it's currently doing right now.

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Old 02-26-2003, 01:31 AM   #11
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definitely do an internship or co-op or get some experience at a medium to large size company doing anything. My friend graduated with a management degree with no experience except bartending. he soon found the job market was crap and went back to school for his masters in business administration. he graduated in june and didnt find a job until December and it was a crappy one at that, the market is bad now but hopefully by the time you graduate it will be better.

I personally liked accounting classes over finance classes, you will have to probably take both for a business major anyway.
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Wish I knew......

(graduating in 3 weeks with a business management/econ degree and years of tech experience)

this job market sucks my hairy white ass.....
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Old 02-26-2003, 10:41 AM   #13
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Wish I knew......

(graduating in 3 weeks with a business management/econ degree and years of tech experience)

this job market sucks my hairy white ass.....
DAMN, you the man... Graduated in three weeks!?! Was that like the shipping time or something? Should have paid the extra $ and had them overnight it...
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Old 02-26-2003, 03:25 PM   #14
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If you really want to work in an automotive company get an exhibitors listing from SEMA and try to find a company near you where you can intern or work cheap part-time during college.
Industries like the aftermarket are very incestuous, once you understand the market you get to the top of the list for openings at other companies when you apply. And it doesn't hurt if you are actually interested in the products your company makes. I've worked for aftermarket companies most of my career and you rarely see them hire a marketing guy from a totally unrelated field like food.
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The degree doesn't actually mean a whole lot to me. Immeadiately after college I plan on going to a flight academy with the long term goal of flying for a major airline. Most majors want a four year degree hence where I am at now. It's also good back-up in case the airline industry wants to take a dump like it's currently doing right now.

-faast
Whoa. Good luck with that. Not to tell you something you already know, but there are plenty of experienced pilots out there looking for jobs.

If you're still in the early stages of school, you may want to strengthen your ability to use your degree as a career and not just as a stepping stone.
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Old 02-26-2003, 07:01 PM   #17
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is there or will there be a lot of demand for MBAs with an MIS specialization?

i am already in the IT field and will soon have a bachelor's degree in CIS. i guess the next logical step would be to specialize in MIS since i already several years of experience and the bachelor's degree.
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is there or will there be a lot of demand for MBAs with an MIS specialization?

i am already in the IT field and will soon have a bachelor's degree in CIS. i guess the next logical step would be to specialize in MIS since i already several years of experience and the bachelor's degree.
Yes.

Think about it. Most people can't talk to techies, and most techies don't have good interpersonal skills.

You step in, manage techies, speak tech speak, but have enough managerial and business skills to relate to the rest of the company. People are paid HUGE money to do this very thing every day.

This is what I'm aiming for.
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Whoa. Good luck with that. Not to tell you something you already know, but there are plenty of experienced pilots out there looking for jobs.

If you're still in the early stages of school, you may want to strengthen your ability to use your degree as a career and not just as a stepping stone.
Yeah no joke it's going to be an uphill battle that's for sure. I was looking at Comair because after you graduate with your ATP, they'll hire you on as an instructor and you are guaranteed at least an interview with Comair, which by itself is difficult to get. Who knows, I may change my mind before then and end up going for my MBA.

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Yes.

Think about it. Most people can't talk to techies, and most techies don't have good interpersonal skills.

You step in, manage techies, speak tech speak, but have enough managerial and business skills to relate to the rest of the company. People are paid HUGE money to do this very thing every day.

This is what I'm aiming for.
Very true; that's what I'm aiming for; I've beena tech all my life, but hate programming, so there ya go.

and to Lifino...
Took me 5 years
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Old 02-26-2003, 10:50 PM   #21
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Whoa- I just read the original post, and thought, "Holy schmitt, that was me!"
This hits WAY close to home,so I have to respond, and this may get lengthy- feel free to skip...

Check this out: I used to live in Illinois also (Oak Park, Elmhurst- went to York High School)
Drove an 88 Olds Cutlass Ciera (So I FULLY feel ya on
The 89 Buick)...I went to school at Knox (In Galesburg)
...and got a 4 year degree (Okay, not marketing- Philosophy)

Anyway, long story short fast forward to today and here's where I'm at:
28 years old, married to the perfect woman,
have the coolest job of any of my friends,
sufficient income to cover 2400sf on 5 acres
and a 2003 WRX wagon (with a few cosmetic STI tweaks, and VERY soon, a UTEC
and an Eclipse with a $15,000 sound system(among other toys).

Here's how I got the job:

The degree itself is important, but unless you specialize (law,medicine,etc.)
-what the degree is actually in is fairly unimportant.
Case in point: I am the 'Technical Marketing Specialist' for a small company
which is a big player in the audio industry.
We are based in Portland, Oregon (IMO the coolest place in the US)
My job is about the coolest job this side of "Beer Taster"
Here's what I do:
I get to travel all over the country to meet with my company's sales reps and distributors.
My expenses are paid on the road. I get to give away swag (t-shirts,fleeces,hats,pens)
and sometimes I give away product (amplifiers, speakers, processors) which of course
makes everybody love me just kidding...
Anyway, I travel less than half of the month, so I have plenty of time to drive
and when I'm in town, I do some product development stuff, some marketing,
a bit of technical, and a bit of hands on prototype construction.
Today I worked on some sick new products that won't be ready until CES next year.

Did my degree (Philosophy) prepare me for any of these tasks?
Directly; no, but indirectly; absolutely.
IMO, All you need to succeed in business is drive, and flexibility.
My degree prepared me for skills; interpersonal communication, writing,
abstract and critical thinking. But I can barely remember what half of the philosophy texts
I read in those four years were about. (I do remember some crazy parties, but just barely, and
mostly from the pictures ...). On that note though, make sure to do your share of partying,
as all work and no play makes Jack a dull fellow, right? Work hard, Play hard. Go BIG or go home.

Whatever you think college will prepare you for is generally not what you will do when you are
out in the real world. You mights study marketing and understand abstract general marketing concepts,
but you will never know concretely how to market widgets until you start working in a widget operation.
Focus on improving your overall self, have an impressive interview and attitude,
and be willing to ask for help and learn from what people around you know.

Flexibility in hard economic times is what keeps people employed.
My company had a 'workforce reduction' this week of 22%
I don't have a marketing degree, but thanks to this concept, I still have a job.

Many of my friends who 'specialized' are in inferior jobs, renting, and going nowhere fast.
Many of my friends who 'specialized' are/were making good money, but the glamourous perception is gone-
They hate being a lawyer (I knew he was guilty, but I had to defend him...)
They hate being an doctor (all I do is torture people with needles and tubes)
They hate being unemployed (ask several engineering degree friends)
But I can go anywhere and do anything, because I got a general liberal arts degree,
And all my references speak highly of my past efforts.

Sorry if any of this comes across as tooting my own horn, but I am proud of who I am
today as a result of what I did and learned at college. Choose whatever path you want,
but choose wisely... you will live with the consequences, good or bad, for a long time.

Anyway, I'll give up the podium now,
If this post is flameworthy, then flame on...

Thanks
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Whoa- I just read the original post, and thought, "Holy schmitt, that was me!"
This hits WAY close to home,so I have to respond, and this may get lengthy- feel free to skip...

.......
But I can go anywhere and do anything, because I got a general liberal arts degree,
And all my references speak highly of my past efforts.
Yep. I believe my Poli Sci degree has been the real door opener for me - not so much the comp sci degree. A liberal arts education teaches you how to think, especially something like poli sci. Will I ever care about aspirational degredation or Mao's Long March again? Not really, but analyzing crap like that for 4 years really made me be able to think critically.

Regarding your situation specifically, Platinum, part of your sucess lies in your willingness to travel. Anything more than 15% travel and most people will walk away. I know I'd be hard pressed to spend close 50% of my time away from my wife, let alone my future children. From what I've observed with my friends, those who travel demand a premium in salary, but it's certainly not a life for everybody...
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Whoa- I just read the original post, and thought, "Holy schmitt, that was me!"
This hits WAY close to home,so I have to respond, and this may get lengthy- feel free to skip...

Check this out: I used to live in Illinois also (Oak Park, Elmhurst- went to York High School)
Drove an 88 Olds Cutlass Ciera (So I FULLY feel ya on
The 89 Buick)...I went to school at Knox (In Galesburg)
...and got a 4 year degree (Okay, not marketing- Philosophy)

Right on, Platinum. I went to York as well for my freshman and sophmore years. I'll pm you and we can talk.
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For those not yet in an MBA program, this is a worthwhile read. Something to consider:

Is an MBA worth it?
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