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Old 03-11-2010, 11:51 AM   #476
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Lol, that was exactly what I wrote but I edited it.

I wonder why vf39'd cars dont run 1.0 60's since they spool so fast in first gear.....
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Old 03-11-2010, 12:44 PM   #477
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I don't really get your argument.. "in the city" it's better. Well, how often are you going WOT in the city? I've never had a problem with my turd of a 67mm turbo driving around in the city, you know what I mean?

This is my opinion. But I do lots of driving on 40 and 50 mph roads (not downtown!), stop & go, squirt and brake sort of thing.

I have never had a problem driving a 2.5i in such conditions, but I really like the torque of a smallish turbo in that situation, and I really really adore driving a 400 hp V8 in that kinda situation.

All that I am saying is that in those situations (if that is important to you, if not then don't reply, I have heard all the arguments numerous times) that low end power of a SC in low gears might be nice.
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Old 03-11-2010, 12:46 PM   #478
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I wonder why vf39'd cars dont run 1.0 60's since they spool so fast in first gear.....
What is this thread about, you are becoming NASIOCized! Wreck everything.

1.0 0-60 has nothing to do with slightly aggressive city driving. It is not balls-to-the wall launching.
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Old 03-11-2010, 01:11 PM   #479
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man u really need to lighten up. i guess i need to use more of these and these

people are way too serious on here.
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Old 03-11-2010, 01:20 PM   #480
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man u really need to lighten up. i guess i need to use more of these and these

people are way too serious on here.
Why did you edit??? i liked what you wrote first
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Old 03-11-2010, 01:48 PM   #481
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lol...no need to keep it going. its like arguing about politics or religion.
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Old 03-11-2010, 06:00 PM   #482
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Why did you edit??? i liked what you wrote first
Now I wanna see it.

This is not even close to a set-up I would choose. I just hate when validity is taking away from something, not due completely to facts, but due to someone else's thoughts.
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Old 03-11-2010, 06:14 PM   #483
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my stance is simply that the "extra" lowend tq isnt worth the time, money or hassle.

i dont drive around in 1st or 2nd gear......95% of the miles on my car are at 3000-3200rpm in 4th......so the extra power this supercharger would provide me between 3200-4000rpm isnt worth it IMO. So in my situation i do not see the benefit of this for daily driving nor at the track.

Im not taking away validity from anything.....the car will build boost faster in the lower gears.....i just dont drive in them to extract any fun out of that extra power.
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Old 03-11-2010, 07:21 PM   #484
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my stance is simply that the "extra" lowend tq isnt worth the time, money or hassle.

i dont drive around in 1st or 2nd gear......95% of the miles on my car are at 3000-3200rpm in 4th......so the extra power this supercharger would provide me between 3200-4000rpm isnt worth it IMO. So in my situation i do not see the benefit of this for daily driving nor at the track.

Im not taking away validity from anything.....the car will build boost faster in the lower gears.....i just dont drive in them to extract any fun out of that extra power.
And that is great, for you.

I (and I am sure many others) would greatly enjoy the low end power in the lower gears. I personally don't think it is worth the time, money or hassle either (also think most would agree with me here).

I can guarantee you though, that if you could make your car build boost faster in the lower gears, by simple tuning, or some other inexpensive means, you would be all over it. (regardless of how many times you say it would not benefit you)
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:47 PM   #485
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And that is great, for you.

I (and I am sure many others) would greatly enjoy the low end power in the lower gears. I personally don't think it is worth the time, money or hassle either (also think most would agree with me here).

I can guarantee you though, that if you could make your car build boost faster in the lower gears, by simple tuning, or some other inexpensive means, you would be all over it. (regardless of how many times you say it would not benefit you)


Just jumping in here out of no where.

Wanted to state judging by your profile you drive a legacy gt, correct?


The STI trans is hitting redline in 2nd gear in the 50mph range or a bit above. Driving an STI around town and it's not unusual cruising in 4th gear at around 45-50mph. The gearing is ridiculously short.

To be totally honest, 1st and 2nd gear are almost useless during city driving.

This is at least my experience.

Anyway, carry on.
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Old 03-11-2010, 10:59 PM   #486
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What is this thread about, you are becoming NASIOCized! Wreck everything.

1.0 0-60 has nothing to do with slightly aggressive city driving. It is not balls-to-the wall launching.
he meant 60ft if i'm not mistaken, not 0-60mph
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Old 03-11-2010, 11:48 PM   #487
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Just jumping in here out of no where.

Wanted to state judging by your profile you drive a legacy gt, correct?


The STI trans is hitting redline in 2nd gear in the 50mph range or a bit above. Driving an STI around town and it's not unusual cruising in 4th gear at around 45-50mph. The gearing is ridiculously short.

To be totally honest, 1st and 2nd gear are almost useless during city driving.

This is at least my experience.

Anyway, carry on.
I do, and I know. I have tuned a few STIs. Of course the ones don;t have as short of gears.
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Old 03-11-2010, 11:48 PM   #488
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he meant 60ft if i'm not mistaken, not 0-60mph
my mistake. I meant 60 foot times, as that was what Ron was talking about.
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Old 03-12-2010, 09:15 PM   #489
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ANYWAYS , guys i think this has become a bit of an argument of opinion . As we all know there are no winners in that kind of argument . so , let me just add a couple last thoughts , being as i have spent some time with these set-ups . one: this is not an ideal drag setup . its good , but not ideal . like brocksdad has stated a couple times , the car is a gas in everyday driving . its like having a big block stuffed under the hood . i wanted this car for nothing more than hooning it around . and at that it was 2nd to none .
two: yes there are faster spooling turbo setups that make more power . with something like this there is lots of trial and error . the last set-up drfinately worked , and well . but there are tradeoffs with these things as well . by design , they are inherently less efficint on the turbo end of things . the air has to jump through a few hoops as it were , where as a strait turbo setup can be built with very direct flow dynamics throughout the system . also , the system is designed , in principle , to broadin the turbo's efficiency range in a way . but there is a very delicate balance there . if the turbo on its own is easily brought into full spool , like a 35r , than the system isnt going to deliver the results you would think . its just making more turbulance than the turbo would otherwise expirience . so the last system , being that it was a stock motor and all , never really had a chance to be pushed . this time , with a larger turbo and built motor will hopefully showcase the systems ability to bring in the turbo that much earlier . and , we can finally turn up that supercharger . the more air the supercharger processes , the more it changes the cars ability to spool the turbo . K'NO WHA "M SAY"N?!
anyway thats my rant for now . thought about it lots i assure you . the money ive got into it , lets just say ive definately pondered my sanity at times and just to keep you all updated , the tunes stopped again , if only temporarily , while Robert makes a new in tank pickup and swirl pot for the fuel system . also i picked up some volk re30's , 18x9 flat black! siiick ! k , chow
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oh and if you dont have anything constructive to add , keep you F'N cake hole closed please . thx

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Old 03-14-2010, 06:13 PM   #491
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snow is gone . time for car ! nuff said
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Old 03-14-2010, 06:22 PM   #492
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meaning the car isn't in AZ anymore?
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Old 03-14-2010, 07:58 PM   #493
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no thats the problem , it is still there
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Old 03-26-2010, 03:37 AM   #494
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Does it do wheelies?
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Old 03-31-2010, 09:47 AM   #495
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oh and if you dont have anything constructive to add , keep you F'N cake hole closed please . thx
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Old 03-31-2010, 05:46 PM   #496
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so whats the story. the car was on the dyno a month ago.....obviously some problem was found.....at this point in the build what problem takes over a month to reconcile?
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Old 03-31-2010, 09:48 PM   #497
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so whats the story. the car was on the dyno a month ago.....obviously some problem was found.....at this point in the build what problem takes over a month to reconcile?
well nothing went wrong per say , but we did find something worth addressing . the fuel system , namely the in tank pick up , was having a hard time with sucking air when the tank was about 2/3rds empty. which was a little weird as we have used this setup with great results b4 . anyway , they are building a swirl pot setup for the car . also , we have removed the AEM setup and gone back to the ECUtek , as i ran originaly . the reason being is that Richard Garcia of dynocomp in phx AZ , is going to be tuning the car . He made the original set-up work amazingly , so for me this is a move in the right direction . No offence to anyone involved with the tuning up until present of course . but Rich's tunes are solid , and he is expirienced with this type of system . so there it is , new fuel stuff and new engine management , ...again lol. thats the hold up . and as soon as she hits the dyno again , ill let everyone know . but i think it will be mid-next week anyway . cheers!
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word, can the ecutek run duel TBs
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Old 04-01-2010, 12:12 PM   #499
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omg....back to the ecutek. talk about a waste of money.

just do it with opensource. its ecutek, but free. with ecutek all you're doing is paying $500-750 for a different gui (graphical user interface).....you're changing the exact same parameters in the ecu. I dont know why richard is still stuck on that. he couldnt get my AP to link up back in 2005 and convinced my dumbazz to switch to ecutek......$750 and one locked ecu later i realized it was the biggest mistake i ever made. The worst thing about ecutek is that if you ever want to switch to something else you either have to just erase your $750 program or take your ecu out and sell it to try and recoupe the cost....but no one uses ecutek anymore and no one wants it.

So let me repeat this again so im clear. ECUTEK WILL NOT DO ANYTHING THAT OPENSOURCE CANT. WASTE OF MONEY.

All it takes is a search for ecutek and you get mostly "how the hell do i get ecutek off my car" threads or "fs: 04 sti ecu with ecutek"

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Old 04-01-2010, 12:30 PM   #500
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Why not just find someone that knows how to tune the AEM?? going back to the stock ECU seems like a step backwards
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