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Old 08-31-2000, 08:22 AM   #1
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Thumbs down OT: It just keeps getting worse for Ford, and then some...

Ford is no longer in the hot seat...they are on their way to burn in hell!!!
They are being sued by the Venenzuelan Govt. for criminal acts and Florida is suing for Ford and Firestone's cover up about this 'historical' problem...Now Ford is recalling overseas vehicles.....Damn, it was just a matter of time...Chk this out http://dailynews.netscape.com/mynsne...01726000280599
That's too bad!!!
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Old 08-31-2000, 11:33 AM   #2
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I work in the auto industry and you know it's pretty bad when crisis management requires the big dog to make commercials to appease the suckers... err, I mean customers.

Didn't they say this might be the recall with the highest fatality count on record?
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Old 08-31-2000, 11:57 AM   #3
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Anyone else here think that Ford is finally reaping what it has sowed for the past ~10 years? People flocked to Japanese and European cars because Ford quality sucked back in the 80's. Rather than build cars on the level of the Japanese in terms of overall quality and longevity, Ford decides to shift over to building "family trucks" with, unsurprisingly, the same level of quality of their cars of 10 years ago, the only difference being that Ford earned a LOT more profit on each truck than each car. Is anyone really surprised that they are having problems today?

Just my $0.02
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Old 08-31-2000, 11:58 AM   #4
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Yep..
I think Ford responded a little too late on this one. This cover up will cost them millions $$$. Ford is going to have to consider another tire manufacturing company as well. Now both are pointing the finger at each other...like always. Always someone wanting the other person to clean up the other person's stink!!!
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Old 08-31-2000, 01:13 PM   #5
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I said it before, 5 Fords, 0 major problems.
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Old 08-31-2000, 02:11 PM   #6
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Ford started the recalls for the tire problem as far back as 1998. They already did the recall in as many as 8 or 9 other countries. They have lost lawsuits in all of those countries. Yet they never mentioned the possible problem in the US. One of the news shows did have a reporter on who actually did a story about the tires a couple years ago and yet at the time nobody paid any attention to her. Lawyers are trying to cash in but then again if it wasn't for the lawsuits Ford probably never would have said anything at all. Just keep letting people die as long as the cash rolls in. I do think that many of the suckers as somebody put it will buy into the commercials and want to feel like everything is fine with their vehicle. They don't want to consider that Ford admitted that they had the people run low air pressure because it lowered the chances of a roll over in their own tests. The NTSB and DOT are still looking into why Ford chose to run less air rather then fix a basic design flaw. On the brightside at least Ford didn't buy into Mitsu because then they could be paying on those lawsuits as well.
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Old 08-31-2000, 08:40 PM   #7
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EscaFlowne,
Consider yourself fortunate and probably in the 5% of consumers who did not fall into any problems with their vehicles. Fortunate because nothing happened to you or your family. But when death is involved, it just takes a whole different turn on things. If you trust the integraty of a car company and you put your life on the line and they screw up, more frequent than occasional, then you know it was bound to happen. It blew up in their face and now the tradegy of loved ones will never be compensated no matter the amount of a lawsuit.
Those that are alive today and drive a Ford Explorer are considered fortunate and lucky not a shade in the statistics.
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Old 08-31-2000, 09:10 PM   #8
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My Dad crashed due to the ****ty Firestones, not because of tread loss, but because of the treads that were already on there. He spun out in the rain due to their crappy design. The used to hydroplane like hell. But other than the SUV tires, I really don't see any other life threatening things going on with Ford, or their cars. That is why I say I have confidence in Ford. All companies screw up , but I'm not going to condemn Ford because of the tire incidents, when all of the other cars I have from Ford are excellent.
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Old 09-01-2000, 12:03 AM   #9
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I think Ford did all this because they were pre-planning to take the focus off the Napster problems!

Honestly, I think that a lot of people saw a weak spot in Ford and went after them at the same time. We'll see the situation end within 6 months and nothing new will emerge from it. Ford has their hands deep enough in the govt.'s pockets to not get effected...
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Old 09-01-2000, 12:10 AM   #10
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Anyone see the interview with some ford exec where they are asking him about the safety of their cars? I think it was on CNN or something.

It went something like this...
Q: "Can we say that safety has been compromised in the Ford Explorer?"
A: "That depends on what the definition of safety is."
Q: "Safety as in cuasing injuries or death to people".
A: "Once again, I have to stress that safety is an arbitrary term. What you may deem safe I may not, and vice versa. It all depends on how you look at it, and thus the definition varies."

Remind you of any president?

These guys are beyond hot water. I'd say they've just bought a couple more cords of wood at added some salt to raise the boiling point. This is just the beginning...of the end???

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Old 09-01-2000, 12:11 AM   #11
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Don't believe the hype.
The pirahnas, er lawyers, smell blood and are all over Ford. These bloodsuckers have gone after tobacco and the gun industry now they have thier sights set on the big F. Ford faces culpability in these cases, but deep pockets are bringing out every schiester that can put his name on class action suit $$$$.

Autobuyers switched to SUV's and minivans because the government made it very unprofitable for the auto companies to build large V8 powered RWD sedans and station wagons. This is not a conspiracy by auto makers but rather unintended consequences of bad legislation.
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