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10-04-2019, 01:03 PM | #1 |
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I have no idea how to drive with a lightweight flywheel.
I just got my car back yesterday from the shop with an ACT HDSS on it, along with an ACT streetlite flywheel. I feel like I have no idea how to drive a stick anymore. I have stalled out more than when I was learning to drive stick, and I can't do a hill start without taking about 3 seconds to get moving. I don't know if this is the flywheel, the new clutch biting hard, or a combination of both, but it's infuriating me. I have been driving manuals since I was 13 and I can't seem to get a grip on this thing. Has anyone got any pointers? My next move is to put about 80 miles on it every night for the next week to help break it in while learning to start out smoothly.
Edit: I almost forgot, the clutch feels like it's engaging right off the floor, as well. Before replacement, it was engaging maybe 2" from the floor.
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10-04-2019, 01:45 PM | #2 |
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I have an Exedy LWFW and yes, it is quite the adjustment. I drove it around for a few miles before I made the changes I'm about to suggest.
If you have a Cobb Accessport, go into the tune Menu, Adjustments, and crank up your AC Off and AC On. My AC Off is set 100 rpm higher and my AC On is 125 rpm higher. It made a huge difference with drivability. |
10-04-2019, 01:46 PM | #3 |
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I installed an ACT Streetlite in my WRX when I put it together earlier this year. It did take a couple days to get used to but wasn’t too drastic of a change. But I had also been driving an automatic on a regular basis for 5 years prior, so wasn’t used to any particular clutch feel anymore. My roommate who’s had a manual that whole time had a REAL hard time driving it when I let him. Just take it slow, be conscious of if you’re giving it enough gas or not, and you should be fine Only way to get used to it will be time, and sounds like you’ve got that planned already
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10-04-2019, 02:10 PM | #4 | ||
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10-05-2019, 07:07 PM | #5 |
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Well, I've driven a bit more with it, and I can start out better. Problem is, I've broken my clutch in and it jerks very hard when shifting quickly, like a WOT run or just short shifting on a backroad. Is this normal, or should I be beefing up my transmission for this?
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10-05-2019, 07:34 PM | #6 |
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Raising the idle helps catch the idle parameters sooner. I noticed, with stock idle, when returning to idle it would drop so far the idle parameters wouldn't be enough to keep from stalling. Raising it help keep it from stalling out, at least on my setup.
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10-13-2019, 10:40 PM | #7 |
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Yea I agree they’re Super annoying, I’ve never owned anything not manual and I just recently went from a 2013 brz to an 06 Sti and it has a lightweight and I stall it pretty often. It bites extremely hard so much so that if you try and feather or ease into it The car makes a very interesting noise as it’s grabbing
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10-14-2019, 09:51 PM | #8 |
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As someone who's just had to put in his third clutch in 5 years, the best piece of advice I can give is...USE AN OEM FLYWHEEL PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.
Capslock kidding aside, I can't be more serious about that statement. When the OEM gave out I went with a recommendation from my local Subaru tuning shop and installed a Stage 2 kit with 12 pound flywheel from Competition Clutch. Hated it with every fiber of my being since the first drive home, constant chatter and stalling on takeoff, a manageable stiff pedal that worked more like a light switch - it was on or off. Not having a disposable income to keep experimenting I lived with it until a somewhat fortunate incident, my center differential exploded. Car was still under warranty so while they had the trans out I supplied them a South Bend Clutch kit with 17 pound flywheel. There was an immediately noticeable improvement, but still constant chatter. Cut to this past weekend where I installed a Clutch Masters FX350 with an OEM flywheel and without exaggeration I fell in love with my car again within 30 seconds of driving. |
10-14-2019, 10:21 PM | #9 |
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^This is more personal preference, really. I have a 12lbs flywheel and I think it's decent. No stalling issues, no jerk, and not much chatter, with Exedy Stage 1.
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10-14-2019, 10:36 PM | #10 | |
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I've seen this before, were someone thinks they can adjust the freeplay and get more life out of a self adjusting clutch, and end up nuking the new clutch, as its not properly set back, when the new clutch is installed. With you hand, not your foot, press the clutch pedal, you should have about 1/2" of freeplay at the top (no load), if there is more or none, likely the process of the new flywheel final machined thickness, or just the thickness of the clutch has changed the pickup point, or see above issue if someone dorked with it. I installed the Exedy FF01 Lightweight and stage 1 organic 15802HD set, I made 2 turns on the adjustment to get the free-play correct. Last edited by Blktrax; 10-14-2019 at 10:42 PM. |
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10-20-2019, 10:22 PM | #11 | |||
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Is there a video about adjusting the clutch on one of these? I've looked on youtube but haven't been able to find a video on anything other than adjusting the clutch switch. |
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10-21-2019, 01:21 AM | #12 |
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There is no “bringing it up as far as it will go” it’s either adjusted properly or it isn’t.
Too much one way and there constant load on the throw out bearing, and will likely prematurely fail, or cause clutch slip. Or too little action in the movement leading to possibly grinding synchros and hard to go into gear from a stop. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xcsFy2I7MPI |
10-21-2019, 11:32 AM | #13 | |
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10-21-2019, 03:48 PM | #14 |
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Just a regular 12mm combination to loosen the lock nut, the rod turns/twists by hand.
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