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Old 10-23-2019, 06:38 AM   #1
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Yamaha has confirmed it has suspended all car projects indefinitely, having concluded that it would struggle to deliver a unique selling point for any of the vehicles it developed in collaboration with Gordon Murray Design.

The firm showed two car concepts at Tokyo motor shows in 2013 and 2015, the Motiv and the Sports Ride Concept, both based around Murray's iStream manufacturing system.

The latter car stood out in particular for using carbonfibre in its construction, promising huge rigidity and an impressive power-to-weight ration for the car. Although exact details were not revealed, it was rumoured to have weighed less than 900kg.

Although McLaren F1 designer Murray had said the iStream system could be employed profitably for production volumes of between 1000 and 350,000 cars, Yamaha spokesman Naoto Horie confirmed at this year's Tokyo motor show that the projects would not proceed, with the firm preferring to focus on smaller, more bike-like mobility concepts if it strayed from its core motorcycle projects.
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Old 10-23-2019, 12:37 PM   #2
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That's too bad.
Seems like every car engine Yamaha has been involved in is/was a great engine. Would have been cool to see what they can do on their own.
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Old 10-23-2019, 01:14 PM   #3
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Why doesn't Toyota have them build all their sports cars? Buy Yamaha and Lotus and dominate the sports car market for a generation. NAH.
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Weren't toyota and yami already teaming up to supply lotus with engines? seems like a partnership is already there?
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Old 10-23-2019, 02:57 PM   #5
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Weren't toyota and yami already teaming up to supply lotus with engines? seems like a partnership is already there?
Yet they outsource to Subaru and BMW.
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That's too bad.
Seems like every car engine Yamaha has been involved in is/was a great engine. Would have been cool to see what they can do on their own.
Remember the old Taurus SHO? Just a fantastic engine.
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That's too bad.
Seems like every car engine Yamaha has been involved in is/was a great engine. Would have been cool to see what they can do on their own.
I own a Yamaha crossplane 4 motorcycle that would make for a fantastic automotive engine at 2 Liters. It fires at the same intervals as a 90 degree V4. Yet one head, so cost is much less. Sound and feel are incredible.
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^^^ Thought the same thing about that engine after hearing R1's with a good exhaust. I think the NVH and power delivery characteristics work against it in a automotive application. Someone should try it in a Miata or classic Mini though...
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^^^ Thought the same thing about that engine after hearing R1's with a good exhaust. I think the NVH and power delivery characteristics work against it in a automotive application. Someone should try it in a Miata or classic Mini though...
Not really man. Would work just fine. It's quiet stock.
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^^^ Thought the same thing about that engine after hearing R1's with a good exhaust. I think the NVH and power delivery characteristics work against it in a automotive application. Someone should try it in a Miata or classic Mini though...
It’s been done, sorta. They used a hyabusa in a Miata. The Sierra cars use a hyabusa engine too (I think it’s a busa engine).

There’s an old school Mini with a busa swap. Looks insane
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Not really man. Would work just fine. It's quiet stock.
The whole idea was to space out the power pulses because motorcycle tires like the staccato beats. It works fine with chain drive. It's excessive driveline NVH with a car's geared driveline.
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