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Old 06-02-2003, 09:29 PM   #1
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Default updated single relay for turbo timer and aftermarket alarm!!!

after reviewing various technical resources, here is the final diagram for integrating a typical turbo timer and an aftermarket alarm that uses an ignition sensing wire.

install notes:

1) Connect the Turbo Timer's Ignition output wire and Cathode side of a 1amp diode to Pin 86

2) Connect a fused 25 amp 12 volt source to Pin 87

3) Cut the Ignition wire in half and connect the Key Side of Ignition wire, Alarm's Ignition sensing wire and Anode side of the 1amp diode to Pin 87A

4) Pin 85 to Ground

5) Pin 30 to Coil Side of Ignition wire

6) Connect the Turbo Timer's Accessory Output wire to the Accessory wire on the Ignition harness

7) Make sure the Alarm's Ignition Sensing Wire is connected to the relay and not anywhere else!!!!

This relay will work with Turbo Timer's that uses the Ignition Output wire to detect whether the vehicle was turned off in order to activate the Turbo Timer.

For G4 alarms that have on board Ignition Kill installed the relay is not needed, just connect the Turbo Timer's Ignition Output wire to the Green/Blue wire off the Clifford's Ignition Output.

If you have any questions feel free to email me!

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Old 06-03-2003, 01:43 AM   #2
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Wouldn't that trigger the relay everytime you start the car with the key? I'm not sure if I'm too big of a fan of that. Otherwise it would work.
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hmm, from the diagram not sure how it's possible for the relay to trigger everytime you start the vehicle unless the Turbo Timer is sending out current to Pin 86.

Pin 87a is normally closed and allows voltage from the Key Side of the Ignition wire contact Pin 30 of the Coils Side. The Alarm's Yellow Ignition Sensing Wire is detecting the Key Side of the Ignition wire.

There's a diode from Pin 87a to Pin 86 which allows the Turbo Timer's Ignition wire to detect whether the Key Side of the Ignition wire is powered or not.

I'm sure there are better ways but DEI has posted Fax info and suggested this way.

if you have a better solution for integrating a turbo timer with an aftermarket alarm, please post it for everyone!

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Wouldn't that trigger the relay everytime you start the car with the key? I'm not sure if I'm too big of a fan of that. Otherwise it would work.

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"There's a diode from Pin 87a to Pin 86 which allows the Turbo Timer's Ignition wire to detect whether the Key Side of the Ignition wire is powered or not."

Having the diode there is what triggers the relay when you start the car with the key. Turn key, 87a gets +12v which goes thru the diode to 86 which triggers the relay. Relay stays engaged while key is on plus the two minutes the turbo timer is engaged.

I wish I could come up with a setup....
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