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Old 07-26-2020, 07:25 AM   #26
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Basically I think there will always be demand for muscle cars, and sports cars from all around the world.
Depends what you consider to be muscle cars. You can buy a brand new Mustang GT for $32k (I just test drove one) with IRS. People get burned all the time dreaming about that 70's muscle machine until they buy one and start driving it and realize they were mostly total crap. I grew up with these cars and know that there's a reason why none of them have a 100k mile digit on the odometer. It's because virtually none of these cars made it that long.
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Old 08-05-2020, 10:46 AM   #27
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This thread is a touchy subject for me. I don't know the current age range of members on here but I was 17 when the first bugeye came to the US. I was a regular on the Cobb forums for years and years learning as much as I could from the older crowd that was actually able to purchase those cars, the GC RS, and the GD STI new.

I'm 36 now and able to afford it but all of a sudden there aren't any left. My theory is that the same thing that happened with BMW's happened with Subaru's. The price in the used market became affordable enough for a new wave of inexperienced kids to purchase them, destroy them with horrible mods, or part them out at the first moment they became bored with it.

t was common knowledge 16 years ago that you needed a tune with a downpipe. I've looked at 4 or 5 Subarus in the past month and I was baffled at the total lack of respect for a car that was made in such limited numbers.

It's honestly offensive to the psyche when I keep seeing perfectly good GD STI's getting parted out because "LOLZZZ CYLINDER 4 SAIDDDD SEEYAAA BROOOO" Did these people not know that Legacy GT's existed as well?
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Old 08-05-2020, 03:56 PM   #28
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I was 32 when I bought my 04 STi in 2003. I am 49 now and still own and drive that very same STi. I do not know exactly how one gauges respect for a car but I have kept it un-modded these 17 years by choice. In my view it is a fine product just the way it left the shores of Japan. The greatest compliment I can give it, is to keep it the way I got it.
I know I am in a minority, but that will not change my outlook towards my 04 STi.
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Old 08-05-2020, 05:33 PM   #29
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I do not know exactly how one gauges respect for a car but I have kept it un-modded these 17 years by choice. In my view it is a fine product just the way it left the shores of Japan. The greatest compliment I can give it, is to keep it the way I got it.
Thank you for not sending another GD to a senseless death. That is exactly what I meant by having respect for a car. I'm not against well researched and thought out modifications that serve to augment the existing characteristics.

What has happened with the vast majority though is something completely different. Sure it's a free country and everyone can do whatever they feel like with their car. I just feel that if the argument is "well they're just making it unique or making it their own", why start off with a car that is already incredibly unique? Why not use a Legacy for instance?
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Old 08-06-2020, 12:53 PM   #30
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I was 32 when I bought my 04 STi in 2003. I am 49 now and still own and drive that very same STi. I do not know exactly how one gauges respect for a car but I have kept it un-modded these 17 years by choice. In my view it is a fine product just the way it left the shores of Japan. The greatest compliment I can give it, is to keep it the way I got it.
I know I am in a minority, but that will not change my outlook towards my 04 STi.
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That is awesome. I also am at my 'older' age not into car modifying anymore.. so Im keeping my '20 stock (minus a couple mufflers that took 20 minutes to bolt on).

Curious, how many miles do you have on her? The lack of stock STi's is exactly why I would be weary buying a used one.
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Old 08-06-2020, 12:54 PM   #31
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This is not unique to this car. Try looking at other older cars. I mean 911s are found in all kind of disarray. Enthusiasts are a small portion of the car world.
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Old 08-06-2020, 12:57 PM   #32
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It's honestly offensive to the psyche when I keep seeing perfectly good GD STI's getting parted out because "LOLZZZ CYLINDER 4 SAIDDDD SEEYAAA BROOOO" Did these people not know that Legacy GT's existed as well?
Yea seriously. I met a guy yesterday with an 08 hatch STi, nice guy. He said he's on engine #3....
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Old 08-06-2020, 02:13 PM   #33
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It is at 80,699 miles today. I drive it daily buy my daily commute is 8 miles round trip
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Curious, how many miles do you have on her? The lack of stock STi's is exactly why I would be weary buying a used one.
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Old 08-06-2020, 07:41 PM   #34
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ist not just japanese sports cars that are like that, a friend of mine had a toyota fjcruiser I think it was a 2014 and he sold it last week for 26000 when he bought it for 32000 in 2014. the used market is rediculas for all cars that are some what sought after
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Old 08-06-2020, 07:53 PM   #35
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One of the reasons I still have my 93 RX-7.

Have not driven it in 5 years, but mint, but modded by myself.

I know I could buy another one in the future, but not knowing the history would bug me.
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Old 08-12-2020, 01:00 AM   #36
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My two kids will need to go college
I will need to pay for college
I***8217;m sure my one owner, GC8 Acadia Green RSTi will bring 20%(optimistic) of the cost when the time comes
Hoping daughter will stick with golf for some scholarship help as well

I watch Mecum a lot
Noticed changes in values
Hopefully I***8217;m the Black!
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Old 08-12-2020, 01:02 AM   #37
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check these guys out
http://jdm-expo.com/8-jdm-classic

that red one with the gold wheels is awesome

Heres your 22b for sale
http://jdm-expo.com/vehicle-inventor...-sti-sale.html
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Love this site!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-12-2020, 08:15 AM   #38
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It is at 80,699 miles today. I drive it daily buy my daily commute is 8 miles round trip
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77K on my 04 STI. Bought it off the original owner with 64k stock. My daily commute is about a 6 mile round trip lol So miles will stay relatively low as well.

I had plans to track this car one day. But as time goes on I find that I would rather keep it preserved and just enjoy is as a drivers car. I saved the STI by getting another dedicated track car.
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Old 08-12-2020, 02:00 PM   #39
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Made my day. Finally someone with an 04 STi that has less miles than me
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Old 08-12-2020, 03:19 PM   #40
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Yea seriously. I met a guy yesterday with an 08 hatch STi, nice guy. He said he's on engine #3....
To be honest the blown engines aren't what upset me. It's the vapid mindset that says "hey let me tear this rust free clean low production car apart even though it is completely repairable because I MIGHT get slightly more money out of it versus replacing the engine and selling it for a lot more and letting it live another day."
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Old 08-14-2020, 01:31 AM   #41
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I had 2004 AW STi, back in 2007ish. Unfortunately, the economy tanked, and I had to let it go. The price was too low, since no one was buying at the time. I sure wish conditions wouldíve allowed me to keep it.
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Old 09-01-2020, 05:11 PM   #42
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Definitely an interesting article! Thank you for sharing.
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Old 09-02-2020, 10:37 AM   #43
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You made me look. I have 71,629 miles on my 04 STi that I bought on May 31 2003. Yep. one of the first. It's not perfect as it is a daily driver, but it is AStock legal other than the OEM rubber.

I bought a lot of the RE-070's. 2 sets of the gold BBS's and one of set of aftermarket rims plus 2...
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Old 09-02-2020, 06:23 PM   #44
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You made me look. I have 71,629 miles on my 04 STi that I bought on May 31 2003. Yep. one of the first. It's not perfect as it is a daily driver, but it is AStock legal other than the OEM rubber.

I bought a lot of the RE-070's. 2 sets of the gold BBS's and one of set of aftermarket rims plus 2...
Not an STI but I bought my wagon WRX May 23rd 2003. Just like you multiple rims and tires. Sheís still going strong. I have 142k though. Keep her forever.
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Cool.

The first thing I did was order up a 5 point cam lock harness. Then I went to work fabricating an Al bracket to mount my halon fire extinguisher at the base of the front passenger seat.

The seat belt was was relatively easy and safe. The shoulder harness was more sketchy.
The 45 degree angle was very old school.

Installing a harness bar was was not easy to do legally. Keeping the factory seat belts was never easy with the up grades...
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Old 09-04-2020, 08:00 AM   #46
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Well yesterday I watched my beloved bug eye with a 6 speed swap leave my driveway on a trailer. It had 240k km on it and lived its life with a 16g running 18-20lbs of boost (270whp) from 70k km. Original motor, original HG. The rear diff finally gave up and it got parked for 5 years. I was going to fully restore it but decided to use the money on a 2020 sti. The 2002 went to an enthusiast thatís going to do well by it and thatís about all I could hope for.

Iíve loved Subaruís since I was a kid (36 now) and Iím glad that the interest has come back to me for another car. I left cars to go race super bikes but now with two kids the risk isnít worth the reward. My son (6) said he wants to build a race car. Iím not sure how far I want to go with the 2020 because it may be worth more stock down the road but at the same time, with some proper mods, with quality parts, done right, and kept clean it shouldnít take away from the value too much.
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Old 09-12-2020, 11:29 AM   #47
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i plan on keeping my fully built 2011 for as long as i can. Its paid off and only sees maybe 3-5k miles a year if that. just about to hit 69k. Obviously its not worth as a much as stock car but low miles, clean build im hoping will be what keeps its value relevant for years to come.
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Old 09-13-2020, 11:34 AM   #48
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Subaru culture has really changed, we are what the Honda scene used to be. What's good about that is, in 10-20 years a clean un-ruined STI will be rare, which will greatly raise the value of those that survived. Even the VA platform will be classic.

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Old 09-13-2020, 06:02 PM   #49
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Let***8217;s be real. Even if you got a deal for the car. It***8217;s not like these cars will demand really high prices. Even if you doubled your money it***8217;s not life changing kind of cash. It will never be a barn find worth millions. Basically you will drive it for free and get some cash when you are done. The more you drive the less cash you will likely get.

Look at the 911 market sure prices went up, many doubled. But paying 45k for an unsorted 30 to 50 year old car is a recipe for spending another 20k or more to get it where you want. And you will never recoup your money. Do an ebay search there a ton for sale, many the same ones for years.

I just don***8217;t see a huge market for mass produced JDM cars. Unique or rare well sorted cars will get a little bump.

Look at the 22b, it sells for 100k because it***8217;s rare and original. The clones sell for very little, about the same as an STI.
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Letís be real. Even if you got a deal for the car. Itís not like these cars will demand really high prices. Even if you doubled your money itís not life changing kind of cash. It will never be a barn find worth millions. Basically you will drive it for free and get some cash when you are done. The more you drive the less cash you will likely get.

Look at the 911 market sure prices went up, many doubled. But paying 45k for an unsorted 30 to 50 year old car is a recipe for spending another 20k or more to get it where you want. And you will never recoup your money. Do an ebay search there a ton for sale, many the same ones for years.

I just donít see a huge market for mass produced JDM cars. Unique or rare well sorted cars will get a little bump.

Look at the 22b, it sells for 100k because itís rare and original. The clones sell for very little, about the same as an STI.
Agreed, these aren't rare Porsche's. I believe there will be a market for them, but not a high dollar market. Might as well drive and enjoy them now, why save it for the next guy!
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