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Old 05-16-2004, 12:09 AM   #1
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Question what all does the valet key do?

The salesman says it keeps them out of the glove box. ooooh yay. Kinda weird if that's all. Maybe it would make more sense if the trunk release was in there.
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Old 05-16-2004, 12:15 AM   #2
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all it is for is when you have someone else drive your car, it wont open the trunk or glove box. thats all. although, ive heard about a car that the valet key will only let em drive it like 3 miles or something like that.

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Old 05-16-2004, 12:22 AM   #3
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The remote trunk release can be disabled from inside the trunk, so the valet key effectively keeps people out of there. Provided you don't have a wagon.
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Old 05-16-2004, 12:24 AM   #4
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The remote trunk release can be disabled from inside the trunk, so the valet key effectively keeps people out of there. Provided you don't have a wagon.
ah handy. (how does this work exactly?) I kinda wish the key kept the car from going over 30mph :P
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Old 05-16-2004, 12:36 AM   #5
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what about the folding back seat? not the stis! I always thought it's stupid as I can get in from there.
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Old 05-16-2004, 12:50 AM   #6
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There's a small switch on the side of the trunk latch (on the lid). Move it to the other position to disable the remote release - lots of people do this by accident and think their cable broke.

Vadim: not sure what you mean, the rear seat doesn't fold down. There is the ski pass which can't be locked, but it would take some time to get the trunk lid opened through that. Reality is, if someone wants your stuff, they'll probably get it.
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Old 05-16-2004, 12:52 AM   #7
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ah handy. (how does this work exactly?) I kinda wish the key kept the car from going over 30mph :P
You never know. There could be a situation where the person driving the cars needs to get some speed to avoid an accident or something. I think this is the reason why they dont put real limiters on cars that adults can set for children. Imagine trying to merge onto the highway and only being able to go 55mph or your engine is shut off. I could imagine why you would want it, but I could also see the law suits.
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Old 05-16-2004, 01:17 AM   #8
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With the valet key, the car can only be started 3 times I believe, after that it's lights out until you try to start it with either the master, or secondary master key.
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Old 05-16-2004, 09:23 AM   #9
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Totaly untrue.
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Old 05-16-2004, 10:25 AM   #10
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Totaly untrue.
Go ahead and try it then, or just look in your owners manual.
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Old 05-16-2004, 10:55 AM   #11
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What is there to try? I only have a valet key for my wife's WRX, and I manage to drive it just fine.

How would the car keep track of this?
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Old 05-16-2004, 01:07 PM   #12
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HAHAHA

I was just reading about the Lexus Remote Access Keys and Valet keys and Master Keys.

I thought that keyless button less entry and ignition system would be great for a car, until I read up on it. Turns out it isn't so great after all.

Anyhow, A VALET key is just a key that prevents the guy who is parking your car from, testing your car out. In some cars it's chip, tells the ECU to turn off the Turbo, and limit you to second gear. unless it is a manual. Limit speed to 30MPH. All anyone needs in a parking lot. Lexus has many different keys. Range from the Master or Secondary master, through the key for your kid to the valet key and the emergency wallet key.

Master Key does everything.

Kids key turns off the turbo.

Valet Key limits the car and access in some way.

Limits can be anything from key access to door and ignition only, no access to trunk, glove box, radio, sub woofer, turbo, sunroof, Gear change points, even locking the vehicle down if driven more then a few miles. Good thing for the Valet key is to have all four blinkers turned on. Some cars even have cameras that the valet key will turn on and record a video of them.

(you can have sex in a car that only goes 30mph in second gear, no radio or glove box access...)

Anything that is electronically controlled, can be limited or set to respond to a type of key.

The coolest Keys allow for your car, if it does it, to sense your presence, move the seat to your settings, set the AC to your range, pick your Radio Station, unlock the various doors with a single touch to a part of the car, etc...

I just wish they would make Keys that were wearable. Like a Ring or a Pin, tie clip, button, necklace, or watch strap, jewelry....

Finger print access only works where it isn't too Hot or Cold.
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Old 05-16-2004, 01:36 PM   #13
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What is there to try? I only have a valet key for my wife's WRX, and I manage to drive it just fine.

How would the car keep track of this?
Are you sure you aren't talking about the secondary master key. I got 3 keys with my RS. The Master, the secondary master and the valet key. The valet key is cut a tiny bit different and the ignition or ECU or whatever knows that. I just went to my grocery store and tried. The car could only be started 3 times with the valet key, and wouldn't start unless I used the Master key.
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Anyhow, A VALET key is just a key that prevents the guy who is parking your car from, testing your car out. In some cars it's chip, tells the ECU to turn off the Turbo, and limit you to second gear. unless it is a manual. Limit speed to 30MPH. All anyone needs in a parking lot.
We're talking about Subaru valet keys here. What are you talking about?
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Old 05-16-2004, 02:25 PM   #15
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Depends on your Subaru doesn't it. Anyway I was talking about all Valet keys.
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Old 05-16-2004, 03:45 PM   #16
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I saw a car on TV last night or the night before on Speed Channel. I think it was the Cadillac. Can't remember. It had a keychain that you kept (where ever), like in your pocket. As you get close to the car, the car will sense the key fob and unlock the doors, set the seats, etc. Pretty neat, but not worth the $75K the car costs.

I remember a Saturn I used to have had a plastic key molded as a cutout in a credit card that you could keep in your wallet for emergencies (like locking yourself out). Because it was plastic, it was only good for emergencies and probably wouldn't hold up to regular use.
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Old 05-16-2004, 03:55 PM   #17
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You sure you don't mean the new Lexus LS430. They have ads for those all the time. Or is it a Caddy that isn't out yet?
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Old 05-16-2004, 04:42 PM   #18
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I think it was Car and Driver television showing the new Cadillac.
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Um, I used my 97 Civic valet key for months of daily driving. I had lost my original in my house somewhere, and found it later. I still use my valet key, it just doesn't let me open the trunk
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Depends on your Subaru doesn't it. Anyway I was talking about all Valet keys.
So, which Subaru's perform these feats? AFAIK a valet key on any Subaru model does nothing more than limit access to the glovebox and trunk. No speed limiter, no "turning off the Turbo".
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Speak to Sdogg3kgt.

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Are you sure you aren't talking about the secondary master key. I got 3 keys with my RS. The Master, the secondary master and the valet key. The valet key is cut a tiny bit different and the ignition or ECU or whatever knows that. I just went to my grocery store and tried. The car could only be started 3 times with the valet key, and wouldn't start unless I used the Master key.
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Old 05-16-2004, 09:32 PM   #22
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Are we all talking about the same thing. I'm not talking about the spare key, I'm actually talking about the valet valet key. On my Grand Cherokee, you could start it twice with the valet key and the third time, it would start and run, but as soon as you shifted from Drive the car turned off.
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Old 05-16-2004, 09:45 PM   #23
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My STI valet key is simply thicker than the regulat keys, preventing it from being inserted into the glove box and trunk locks. That is the only difference.
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Speak to Sdogg3kgt.
Speak to Jaypride. If you've got information about this unusual valet key, please provide it. Link to the owners manual should solve it.
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****. How the **** would I know. All I know that that's the way it is in my car. I don't give a ****.
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