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Old 11-07-2009, 04:32 PM   #201
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The old body style is way better this is a bad copy of the Camry.
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Old 11-09-2009, 03:15 AM   #202
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own 2.5GT Limited... SWP... loving the car. It's a great get away from my wrx lol being stiff and all. It's big inside and gets lots of wow from all these people that rode in the car. I gotta say I get lots of questions about the car...

A quick mod on the car and it'll be nice.. not fond of the wheel gaps but oh well. Love the car no matter what people say. It's just one of those things people would hate... but love deep inside. I mean, this is not the first time for subaru =]
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Old 11-10-2009, 10:53 AM   #203
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I had a 2005 Legacy GT. Loved it. However, when I see the old Legacys next to the new ones, it makes the old ones look out-dated and somewhat goofy. I dig the new ones a lot. I'm in the market for a new car and I cannot decide between a WRX Premium sedan or a new Legacy. I don't think I can hold out for the STi sedan...
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Old 11-10-2009, 03:01 PM   #204
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It's hard to go back to my wrx... when I sit on it I feel cramped and not comfortable anymore... I got use to the lgt. So roomy and just feels great. No worries about anything too... and great sleeper.
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Old 11-11-2009, 01:07 PM   #205
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Past the honeymoon stage already?

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...est/index.html

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First Test: 2010 Subaru Legacy GT
The Only Mainstream Midsize Sedan That Can Call Itself a "Sport Sedan"
November 10, 2009
/ By Todd Lassa

2010 Subaru Legacy GT Front View
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We've been hearing it for decades. "What sets our mid-size sedan apart from Camry/Accord is that ours is a sport sedan." Translation from market-speak is, it's got a leather-wrapped steering wheel and stiffer springs and shocks to mitigate short suspension travel, and its maker can sell nowhere near the 400,000+ per year each of Camry or Accord.

So it's refreshing to come across a mid-size family sedan that delivers the goods. Subaru's new Legacy GT, delineated from quotidian naturally aspirated H-4 and H-6 Legacys, is a WRX for grownups. Yes, Subaru did this with the last-generation Legacy, there was even a B-spec. Now the 2010 model has a back seat for grownups, thanks to the Legacy's 3.2-inch longer wheelbase, 3.2-inch taller body and its extra 3.6-inches of width.

Shoulder room is up 4.2-inches in front and 2.4 inches in back, for example. The EPA says interior volume totals 103 cubic feet, versus 90.9 for the '09 model, and the trunk is now good for 14.7 cubic-feet, up from 11.4.

Downside is styling. The last Legacy was one of the cleanest designs in this class. Now it looks gawky and ill proportioned, a retrograde step not unlike the one the Impreza took a couple of years ago. It's a much more striking step back for the Legacy sedan than for the Outback based on it.

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Inside, the GT is purposeful and high quality, though not quite as upmarket and modern as Subaru would like to claim. As a smaller niche brand, Subaru is semi-premium in its home market, and here it would rather sell against Acura than against Honda. "This wood is too sparkly, glittery," Frank Markus says of the GT's dash trim. It could use a bit more of the polish of the Outback's similar interior. Texture/color options shouldn't make this sort of difference.

You won't care about this quite so much as you're tossing it around a canyon road. First, there's the power; the turbo-four propels the Legacy GT from zero to 60 mph 0.2-seconds quicker than the slightly heavier and more powerful Toyota Camry SE V-6, which has front-wheel-drive. It's 0.9-seconds quicker than an AWD Audi A4 2.0T and will easily beat either in covering the quarter mile: the Legacy GT's time is 14.1 seconds at 98.8 mph. Like the smaller WRX, the Legacy's turbo four is more spirited, more willing to rev than a typical six, though of course you will have to wait for the turbo to spool up in very low-rpm tight corners.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...#ixzz0WZjwkDEs
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Old 11-14-2009, 08:16 AM   #206
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http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?...icleId=5198603

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WHEN BIGGER BECOMES INCONVENIENTLY BULKY

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BIGGER BUT NOT BETTER: the new Subaru Legacy is bigger in every way than its predecessor (inset) - which is not always an improvement.

October 12, 2009
By John Simister

Subaru's design team have created a monster. What were they thinking of?

Here's the new Subaru Legacy - due for release in South Africa on October 14 - flying the flag once again for Subaru's faith in flat-four engines and all-wheel drive.

Look at it and right away you can see it's got problems. It's longer, wider, taller, bigger in every way than the old one, although the old one was plenty big enough for nearly every purpose. Now it's become just inconveniently bulky.

The Legacy now needs to be berthed rather than merely parked and, frankly, it's ugly. Nobody stood back and said: 'That looks wrong'
. Yes, aesthetics are partly subjective, but slab sides, overblown wheel arches and a generic nose design - whose droopy sculpting and smiley front grille could have come from any lesser-known manufacturer - do not make for a handsome car.

It's true that handsome cars are harder to make nowadays, given the strictures of safety standards. But with the Legacy it seems the designers just could not remember what it was they were designing. And nobody stood back and said: "That looks wrong".

Harsh words? Maybe. The tragedy is that the Legacy does have a positive design legacy. The outgoing version was the first of the breed to be a genuinely good-looking car, a machine which might tempt buyers away from an Audi on aesthetic as well as technical grounds.

So why has Subaru killed the goose? Maybe the US market still needs hefty cars and Subaru is big in the US. People buy Subarus to be different. But the trend here and in Japan is, or should be, to make cars smaller and lighter for obvious environmental reasons.

Subaru, as a company with a strong innovative streak, should be in the vanguard of this thinking. That's a key reason why people buy Subarus: to be different.

The new Legacy, priced from £23 295 (R274 650) in the UK, is made in both sedan and station-wagon forms, the latter once again available also as a toughed-up Outback version.

South Africa will only get the sedan, all models with the four-wheel drive and flat-four engines (a configuration nowadays unique to Subaru) on which the brand is based.

That other Subaru nicety, frameless doors, has however passed into history. Cost is why; it's cheaper to make a conventional window frame than to fit seals sophisticated enough to keep wind noise low without a frame.

In Europe this latest Legacy comes with a choice of two engines, a 2.5-litre petrol unit with 125kW and and a 2.0-litre turbo-diesel with 112kW but considerably more torque than the petrol unit.

INTERESTING SOUND TRACK

There are no plans at present to release the diesel in South Africa but the petrol model will be available with either a six-speed manual gearbox or a continuously-variable automatic transmission called Lineartronic.

The diesel is unquestionably the one to have, with punchier performance, much better fuel economy and a more interesting sound track.

That said, the petrol version's CVT transmission is better than some other similar systems because it doesn't allow the engine speed to soar the second you squeeze the accelerator. It also has six manually controlled steps should you wish to assume control yourself.

Inside, you're surrounded by curves and sweeps and silvery plastic, all accurately made and neatly assembled but somehow lacking the restraint sensed in the previous Legacy. The seating is very comfortable and the rear seats' backrests flip forward automatically when you pull a handle in the boot. The resulting load-floor slopes uphill, unfortunately.

HILL HOLD

The centre console lacks any form of handbrake but there's an electric button on the lower right side of the fascia where it's hardly in a prime zone of ergonomic convenience. You have to pull it to release the brake; unlike some, it doesn't release automatically.

I cursed this system in an uphill traffic crawl, railing against being deprived of the accurate control that a regular handbrake lever gives, until I discovered the hill holder, a device which stops the Subaru rolling back. I should have known; nowadays quite widespread, the hill holder was a Subaru invention.

As for other driving qualities, the suspension lacks the suppleness once typical of a Legacy, the steering is numb, the roadholding is secure, the experience is underwhelming. This is an unusual car, which is welcome in a world of conformity, but it should be so much more than that.
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Old 11-14-2009, 10:54 PM   #207
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Interesting article - but what could appear as a negative review is really nicely summarized on a positive note in the last paragraph. It reads:

"Bottom line is that while the styling may put you off, the performance will more than mitigate it, making this the ultimate stealth sedan. It's a family sedan for enthusiasts to consider, not just for enthusiasts to recommend to their non-enthusiast neighbors. And unlike the WRX STi and the Evo X, or the WRX and the Lancer Ralliart and MazdaSpeed3, there is no other midsize sedan on the U.S. market quite like the Subaru Legacy GT.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0910_2010_subaru_legacy_gt_test/specs.html#ixzz0WtctvxS"


I believe we are going shopping on Monday. Test driving is done - decision has been made - just need to decide on color. I hear that there is a few weeks wait for some models/colors - because of demand - so I may have to be flexible on the color choice.
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Old 11-24-2009, 02:21 AM   #208
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I just got the GT model back in September. I traded my Audi A4 for it. The drive is great, but I hate the shifter. It doesn't shift as smooth. It also lacks many standard features that comes with Audi.

I also have an 06 STI as my weekend car. They are nothing alike execpt for the name. I do like how much quieter the Legacy is in comparison to the STI and the older Legacy models.

Exceptional comfort with great all wheel drive performance. The 4 cylinder also gives good mileage.
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Old 11-24-2009, 01:10 PM   #209
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Recently bought a 2.5i Premium CVT. Harvest Gold. Also own a 2006 Baja Sport, which has nearly 90,000 miles on it now. We put a lot of miles on our cars, so MPG is a priority.

Acceleration is adequate for us... I'd like faster... I'd also like to own a Ferrari. LOL

The CVT is simply excellent. Car stays in the powerband, and you can mess with the paddleshifters if you are so inclined.

The interior just "feels" so much better. Fit and finish is nice. Its softer, dare I say luxurious. Lots of space... which is a huge issue for me (literally)... I'm 6'5", 250+ pounds. I actually fit IN this car. When I drive the Baja now, I feel like I'm sitting ON it, not IN it. Headroom to spare in this Legacy. Power seats adjust well. Tilt and telescoping steering wheel also helps.

Handling feels less "crisp" and "direct" than I expect in a Subaru. But the ride is very smooth and soft... I think the car will benefit from a set of lowering springs and +1 or +2 on the rims. (mine has the 16"). It'll get that once I get the car in a few years. (the wife gets the new car... I get the hand me down). Handling is still "secure"... but it doesn't quite have the same "stuck like glue" feeling I get from the Baja. Still, I like it, and consider it a good tradeoff for this car.

My concerns going in were: will it be underpowered with the 2.5 (as the 2.5 feels barely adequate for my Baja)... and, will the CVT suck?

Fell in love immediately on the test drive. The 2.5 is adquate. Test drove a 3.6, but for us, the MPG was more important than the extra power. The CVT is simply terrific.

A neighbor has a 2009 Legacy, which I think is a beautiful car. But I'd MUCH rather have this 2010. Bigger, better mileage, more comfortable. And while not as pretty as the older model, I think it's handsome in it's own way.

Best of all, it's a Subaru! I hope it snows all winter long!
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Old 10-18-2010, 10:04 AM   #210
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Well after 4 months of owning this car and having owned two Altima 3.5 SE's (an '06 and '08) here are my thoughts on the car.

Pros
Love the handling of the car, the low center of gravity and four wheel dirve really make a difference to the handling.
The style is upscale, looks like a Euro sports sedan, always getting looks form car people wondering what it is.
Nice leather interior and trim, car presents way above the others in this class.

Cons
I have the non-nav system, therefore my bluetooth is through the tiny speaker in the center console. The sound is awful on the highway and mostly useless. Also, the bluetooth connection is not very good, I have to manually connect every time I start the car and just recently when the phone rings and I answer the phone I get locked into set up mode on the bluetooth and lose the call, kinda frustrating! Since the bluetooth on the cars with Nav uses the car stereo speaker I am not sure why Subaru took away a storage compartment to put a poor quality speaker in its place. Use the car stereo please!

Air conditioning is very weak compared to the past 6-7 cars that I have owned. Takes forever to cool and the car automatically goes to recycled air mode on hot days (and stays there unless you manually set to fresh air). Windows get very humid and dirty because of this.

The four way flashers often get activated when putting the car in park (too close to the shifter and your knuckles hit it unless you pay close attention). If you fix the bluetooth you can raise the HVAC controls up a couple of inches, gain the space in the too small center console cubby hole. This would solve many nagging issues at one fell swoop.

As per above, the center console cubby hole below the four way flashers is very small compared to others in class.

Need a sixth gear to improve gas mileage, at highway speeds I am turning 300-400 rev's higher than I was with my Altima's. Tough on gas. Although I am not sure about the torque band and how performance would be affected??

The satellite antenna is aftermarket and therefore glued to the inside front windshield. The only mid size sedan that does this I believe. Looks cheap and not in sync with the upscale look.

No auto door lock feature when shifter is placed in drive, something else that is common in this category.

No rear passenger air ducts for the HVAC system and no reading lights in the back (now that the car is a true mid size note that families like this touch).
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Old 10-18-2010, 10:14 AM   #211
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I have a 2010 LGT and love it. I upgraded from an 05 and it is definitly much better in comparison. more space, quiter and just a potent engine. I do think the transmission leaves a bit to be desired but I am in no way dissapointed with the car.
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