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12-07-2018, 07:09 AM | #1226 | |
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Re-tuned through Clark Turner Tuning again for the new parts. SAE corrected, 292whp/339wtq. Uncorrected, obviously higher (302/353 I think it was). Super happy with the mods and the tuning. Some day next season, I'll get it out to the strip and do a few runs to get an idea of what it can do.
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12-07-2018, 07:31 AM | #1227 | |
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12-07-2018, 07:42 AM | #1228 |
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12-07-2018, 07:54 AM | #1229 |
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In my limited experience, Clark likes to e-tune his WOT with a 2k - 5k pull the first few times, and then once things are more in line, he asks for a full WOT pull. This plot was from when he sent my final map revision and I did a pull at the same location I use for all of the WOT ones.
For all of my pulls, there has always been a spike at the beginning, and then a taper as RPMs go up. What I like is that it is a relatively even rate, not a flat torque line, but at least consistent, so the power is fairly linear (in the overall sense). |
04-30-2019, 08:11 AM | #1230 |
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New mods, new plot.
Added in a GS TMIC and Invidia Q300 single exit cat-back. Clark Turner Tuning re-tune for new mods. 21psi boost. So now, full bolt-ons except for header. 313whp/339wtq on virtual dyno from a run yesterday. |
04-30-2019, 12:38 PM | #1231 | |
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Otherwise great numbers, what is this on, 93oct? |
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04-30-2019, 12:55 PM | #1232 |
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04-30-2019, 01:15 PM | #1233 |
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Yes, virtual dyno (VD), so it is road loading, not dyno loading. I've had that spike at the start on all of the plots/runs on VD. So I guess, my peak wtq is probably a bit lower that what it shows. Still would be around 330wtq instead of the spike at 339wtq based on the chart.
I've also always had that dip. Boost is consistent at 20 - 22 on a normal weather day. Clark said he does not like to increase boost over that on a 93 map. And I have no intention of going FF as there is limited around in my area (at least that I would get to on a regular basis). |
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So what if its vd?
I dont have a dip now post tune but i had one before on my vd too. Its got nothing to do with vd or road vs dyno but with the tune itself. You've always had it and your tuner should have tuned it down a bit to spike less and later so its more linear instead of oem-ish roller coaster ride. Thats just coming from a layman who can look at a chart. Go look back and see how some other vd curves are "smoother" so to speak. You must feel it under wot as violent spike then loss of power before more pull.. i mean nothing happens for 5-600rpm. |
04-30-2019, 01:58 PM | #1235 |
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Definitely do not feel it that much.
I'll ask Clark to see if he can do anything about it, or if he is concerned. He's analyzing the logs, so I put my trust in him to do what he thinks is best. It is what I'm paying him for after all. :shrugs: |
04-30-2019, 02:11 PM | #1236 |
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Im not saying there is cause for concern.. I'd just like a smoother line, not rollercoaster, you know.
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04-30-2019, 02:34 PM | #1237 |
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True.
I flipped through the thread, and there seem to be a lot of them with the "surge" at the 3000 - 3500 range. Maybe not quite as obvious as mine (although some were), but a noticeable amount. I'm happy with the tune overall, but it is certainly worth asking the question. |
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04-30-2019, 03:39 PM | #1239 | |
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So picture a vtach ecg sloped about 30-35deg, thats my chart with zero smoothing. For all others, just go back one page and look at Rons e50 chart. Thats what it looks like. Almost as if drown by a ruler but with a slight curvature. My protune doesnt dip like my oem tune did. Thats the point of the protune, it isnt just chasing numbers. |
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04-30-2019, 03:54 PM | #1240 | |
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If you cant or wont post your plot that's fine, just curious what you're afraid of. |
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04-30-2019, 04:55 PM | #1241 | |
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When i get home i can post a smoothing 1 or 2 factor, but it looks like all of Rons dyno charts, so not sure what you’re trying to get at? It doesnt have any dips until well past 6000rpm. Im not trying to show off, im just telling a forum member that id expect a smoother curve paying for a protune instead of oem tune bumped up in power. |
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04-30-2019, 05:12 PM | #1242 | |
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That's exactly what you're doing. You come posting about how awesome your VD lines are and how crap his are, then refuse to provide your own plot. At this point I dont even think you'll post your own plot, you'll dig through the thread to find one that matches your requirements and pass that off as your own. You're like Stija reincarnated. Yesterday you post about how new and confused you are with the platform, today you're an expert. |
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04-30-2019, 05:22 PM | #1243 | |
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Oh i will post it with 0 smoothing just to prove you wrong. Then you can tell me what i did wrong with my vd, cuz naturally i dont know how to use it. I enjoy reading your posts by the way, there is always an impression you leave as if you know what you’re talking about. But you haven’t a clue what you’re saying 8/10 times, just angry opinions/rants. Like this for instance. But i can’t wait to learn what i did wrong. Excited. |
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https://images.app.goo.gl/Eo1smrL35Bs5gbJt5
Actually i changed my mind. Because at home I'm on my own time and my policies and procedures at home do not permit me to waste time on random internet trolls. So i wasted time at work (already wasting anyway) to include this dyno chart with 0 smoothing. Dont know what car since its for educational purposes. But my dyno chart with 0 smoothing looks even worse and more jagged.. couldnt find a worse one than that so i included the closest thing. So what you see but more dips and cliffs, like vtach as i already mentioned, that's what my dyno looks with sm0. So this but worse, much worse. When i get home i will post a dyno chart with smoothing 1 or 2 for comparison reasons with Ironman. I may even plot the oem dyno (if i can find it) so he can see that the oem tune is very similar to his chart and completely different than my current line by Ron. Last edited by Rexy18; 04-30-2019 at 05:50 PM. Reason: Pic wont post |
04-30-2019, 07:32 PM | #1245 |
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05-13-2019, 11:49 AM | #1247 |
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05-24-2019, 03:56 PM | #1249 |
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What kind of life span do these IAG and built motors have? I know thats pretty broad statement, but most of these builds seem to be around the 400-450whp mark. Just curious what kind of longevity people are seeing assuming they drive the car responsibly?
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05-24-2019, 05:41 PM | #1250 |
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Hard to say. There is a built motor forum where I came across FA20 discussions but there is just so many factors involved that can determine durability.
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