|
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Display Modes |
12-15-2014, 12:44 PM | #6376 | |
*** Banned ***
Member#: 302570
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: dear old dixie
Vehicle:2013 XV DGM! |
Quote:
I only asked because I don't think anyone gets less than 6 quarts from dealer fills.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
|
|
12-15-2014, 12:45 PM | #6377 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 322264
Join Date: Jun 2012
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: Webster, NY
Vehicle:2012 Impreza Sp 5sp Obs Blk Prl/Drk Gray Mtl |
|
12-15-2014, 03:27 PM | #6378 | |
*** Banned ***
Member#: 88514
Join Date: Jun 2005
Chapter/Region:
HIIC
Location: https://t.me/pump_upp
Vehicle:2010 Outlander XLS Brown Metallic |
Quote:
|
|
12-15-2014, 04:07 PM | #6379 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 337395
Join Date: Nov 2012
Vehicle:2014 Impreza SP Ltd ISM |
isn't it just a common sense?
who would pay for "possibly" defective car for top dollar? also, https://www.google.com/search?q=impr...m=122&ie=UTF-8 that's what the part of lawsuit is about Quote:
TSB is for 12/13 but IIRC 14's have same issue too. |
|
12-15-2014, 05:06 PM | #6380 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 324017
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: South-Central PA
Vehicle:2012 Impreza 2.0i Ice Silver Metallic |
Quote:
Anyway, I'll check it when I get home. |
|
12-15-2014, 07:49 PM | #6381 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 322264
Join Date: Jun 2012
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: Webster, NY
Vehicle:2012 Impreza Sp 5sp Obs Blk Prl/Drk Gray Mtl |
There are two reasons why this might not be common sense:
I believe both of these points are true, so no, I don't think it's common sense that Impreza resale values will drop in any dramatic way because of this oil consumption issue. Isn't it common sense that you and I know more about this problem than 99% of the people who might be in the market for a used Impreza, and who are more likely to trust what Consumer Reports says about Impreza reliability than what a handful of this forum's members say? |
12-15-2014, 07:58 PM | #6382 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 337395
Join Date: Nov 2012
Vehicle:2014 Impreza SP Ltd ISM |
Quote:
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/n...cars/index.htm http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...suit/12859865/ if you come across article like this, wouldn't you be worried and maybe cross off from the potential list? |
|
12-15-2014, 08:06 PM | #6383 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 315643
Join Date: Apr 2012
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: Atlanta Ga
|
Quote:
It wont stop anyone else from buying one either. |
|
12-15-2014, 08:11 PM | #6384 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 337395
Join Date: Nov 2012
Vehicle:2014 Impreza SP Ltd ISM |
Quote:
and I got 2014 for two reasons 1. what I've read, mostly MT had problem. so I got CVT 2. Subaru said they fixed something, but not really and now I have Rav4, because I needed something bigger and I could've gotten Forester or XV, but I didn't because I know about the oil problem. and 14 impreza only has about 3300miles and no real consumption issue as of yet. Dealer was putting way too much oil (about an inch over full mark). Free oil change at dealer for first year so got it done last week. |
|
12-15-2014, 08:14 PM | #6385 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 315643
Join Date: Apr 2012
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: Atlanta Ga
|
Quote:
|
|
12-15-2014, 08:20 PM | #6386 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 322264
Join Date: Jun 2012
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: Webster, NY
Vehicle:2012 Impreza Sp 5sp Obs Blk Prl/Drk Gray Mtl |
Quote:
How many people will come across those articles? Not many. Most people will do this: They will go to consumerreports.org, they will type "Subaru Impreza" into the search field, and they will look at all the red dots. The only half-black dot they will see for 2012+ Impreza is that the 2012 Impreza got a half-black dot for Body Integrity. In every other category, everything is average or better. Then they will look at the Owner Satisfaction ratings and see that in the Small Cars category, the Impreza is the highest-scoring AWD car. And they will say to themselves, "Hey, the Impreza looks very reliable, and it has high owner satisfaction, and I need AWD because I drive through the snow every winter, so that's the car I'm gonna buy." I think you give the general buying public more credit than it deserves. I also think that you think the problem is bigger than it really is. Don't get me wrong: I feel your pain. I know what it's like to be greatly dissatisfied with a car (my Impreza does not make me feel dissatisfied; I'm referring to a previous car). So I understand your frustration, aggravation, and bitterness. But just because you had a bad experience with your Impreza doesn't mean that most people do/will. I don't have anything bad to say about my 2012. And judging from all the red dots I see for the 2012+ Impreza in the Engine categories (where I would expect oil consumption issues to be revealed), I don't think many people will be scared away from buying a used 2012+ Impreza. And I don't think the resale values will fall as you predict/hope they will. |
|
12-16-2014, 06:41 AM | #6387 |
*** Banned ***
Member#: 302570
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: dear old dixie
Vehicle:2013 XV DGM! |
Part of the high resale in subaru's of the past was due to them being produced in somewhat lower numbers. They have basically quadrupled production and cheapened the cars, I really don't think these will at all be as sought after on the used market as previous subarus.
And Consumer Reports did have an oil light come on. They just didn't do any kind of follow up to it. Shame on any motor journal who gives such praises for something they know has an oil thirst. I guess they had already praised it so highly they didn't want to discredit themselves by making much of a fuss about the oil loss. Mine just burned about two quarts in 4000 miles. |
12-16-2014, 08:44 AM | #6388 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 259587
Join Date: Oct 2010
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: Burlington,VT
Vehicle:2014 Impreza White |
Quote:
|
|
12-16-2014, 10:37 AM | #6389 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 89967
Join Date: Jun 2005
Chapter/Region:
NESIC
Location: MA
Vehicle:2020 Volvo S60 Gray |
If you search on the internet, you can always find negative reviews for anything, regardless of the quality. Am I afraid someone will Google 2012 Impreza and be scared away due to the small amount of problems? Nope
|
12-16-2014, 10:43 AM | #6390 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 322264
Join Date: Jun 2012
Chapter/Region:
Tri-State
Location: Webster, NY
Vehicle:2012 Impreza Sp 5sp Obs Blk Prl/Drk Gray Mtl |
|
12-16-2014, 11:02 AM | #6391 |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 315643
Join Date: Apr 2012
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: Atlanta Ga
|
My trade in was over heating when i traded it in from a Blown HG. Ill take a little oil consumption over worrying whether i need to pull over and let it cool down. Not trying to make you guys sound like whine asses but you all should have a taste of what a really unreliable car is like.
I can check my oil every 2 months and be fine. And honestly you people that complain the most are usually the same ones that trade their cars in every 3 years. Last edited by auskip07; 12-16-2014 at 11:21 AM. |
12-16-2014, 01:19 PM | #6392 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 324017
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: South-Central PA
Vehicle:2012 Impreza 2.0i Ice Silver Metallic |
Quote:
The oil burning thing is a pretty significant nuisance for some of us, though. For me, it's not a matter of "check the oil every 2 months", it's a matter of "check the oil twice a week, and add half a quart every week or two". You're right that there are plenty of cars that are a bigger pain in the ass to own than a new Subaru that burns a bit of oil. So what? We bought Imprezas because we wanted practical, low maintenance, reliable basic transportation. If I wanted something that would require me to be under the hood more than once a week and take monthly trips to NAPA to replace the oil it's burning, I would've gotten something else. |
|
12-16-2014, 02:29 PM | #6393 |
*** Banned ***
Member#: 88514
Join Date: Jun 2005
Chapter/Region:
HIIC
Location: https://t.me/pump_upp
Vehicle:2010 Outlander XLS Brown Metallic |
What scoobie doo said....you're investing in a new car...not a R&D project for Subaru...
I'm not a whiny ass...I'm a concerned customer. If it were a lease, I wouldn't give a flying F if it were consuming oil, not my problem. However, for a vehicle I'm financing/bought outright, then I'm going to be pissed I bought a NEW car with an issue that WILL affect its longevity and resale value. Sounds like SOME of you can't accept reality that your vehicle has a serious mechanical flaw and are going to ignore it/put a band aid on it til you're really f'ed and out of warranty. What then? |
12-16-2014, 02:46 PM | #6394 | |
*** Banned ***
Member#: 302570
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: dear old dixie
Vehicle:2013 XV DGM! |
Quote:
Just ignore the lames that like to play PR spokesman for subaru 24/7. And the trolls. |
|
12-16-2014, 02:55 PM | #6395 |
*** Banned ***
Member#: 88514
Join Date: Jun 2005
Chapter/Region:
HIIC
Location: https://t.me/pump_upp
Vehicle:2010 Outlander XLS Brown Metallic |
I wish NASIOC had options to give thanks, likes, etc...I think that would show better support for peoples posts.
|
12-16-2014, 03:12 PM | #6396 | |
Scooby Newbie
Member#: 331332
Join Date: Sep 2012
Chapter/Region:
MWSOC
Location: Minneapolis
Vehicle:2014 Camry SE V6 Silver |
Quote:
There should be a "manufacturer integrity" category as well and Subaru should get a big fat black dot for what appears to be an official policy of overfilling these engines to throw off the consumption test and mask the true consumption. If it's the dealers that are doing this on their own, Subaru needs to crack down because it's downright dishonest. |
|
12-16-2014, 04:03 PM | #6397 | |
Scooby Specialist
Member#: 315643
Join Date: Apr 2012
Chapter/Region:
South East
Location: Atlanta Ga
|
Quote:
So when the impreza breaks out of warranty what will i do? Fix it like any other car out of warranty. Its not rocket science. Any and every car will break. Its not a failure to understand that this is an issue its a failure to overreact and blow something out of proportion for my personal case. Last edited by auskip07; 12-16-2014 at 04:30 PM. |
|
12-16-2014, 04:19 PM | #6398 |
*** Banned ***
Member#: 88514
Join Date: Jun 2005
Chapter/Region:
HIIC
Location: https://t.me/pump_upp
Vehicle:2010 Outlander XLS Brown Metallic |
|
12-16-2014, 04:23 PM | #6399 | |
*** Banned ***
Member#: 88514
Join Date: Jun 2005
Chapter/Region:
HIIC
Location: https://t.me/pump_upp
Vehicle:2010 Outlander XLS Brown Metallic |
Quote:
Fix it items include wear/tear, not engine replacements due to production flaws. People here may be over-reacting, but for good reason. They're spending time towards a resolution of a problem through no fault of their own, and time is money. |
|
12-16-2014, 05:21 PM | #6400 | |
*** Banned ***
Member#: 302570
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: dear old dixie
Vehicle:2013 XV DGM! |
Quote:
|
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Are there any DIY independent fog lights write ups yet for 2012 impreza sports? | JDMSTA | Electrical & Lighting | 59 | 07-21-2013 08:04 AM |
2012 Impreza 2.0i Mobil1 oil filter model # | jr0bb5 | Service & Maintenance | 27 | 01-04-2013 05:18 PM |
('11-'14) OC interval and the first oil change on 2012 Impreza 2.0 | Oceanguy | Impreza Forum | 80 | 11-18-2012 12:56 PM |
My Oil Light is Flickering and I have No Leak??? | kakarotoni | Newbies & FAQs | 39 | 08-16-2012 10:36 AM |
('11-'14) 2012 Impreza High beams = Low beams lighting | Jmzda | Impreza Forum | 28 | 06-01-2012 12:14 PM |