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View Poll Results: Year/model of the car the failure happened
04 STI 34 11.49%
05 STI 19 6.42%
06 STI 88 29.73%
07 STI 20 6.76%
08 STI 12 4.05%
05 LGT 6 2.03%
06 LGT 9 3.04%
07 LGT 3 1.01%
08 LGT 0 0%
02-05 WRX 55 18.58%
06 WRX 17 5.74%
07 WRX 12 4.05%
08 WRX 9 3.04%
04-08 FXT 12 4.05%
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Old 04-25-2015, 01:05 AM   #826
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I find the 135000 number interesting.

Do you think it means:

135000 USDM EJ255, 205, 257 2005-2015?

or

135000 Worldwide EJ255, 205, 207, 255 2005-2015?

This means roughly 13500 engines per year, or 37 or so per day, if the robots work weekends and without considering stoppage of the assembly line.
For some reason, I think I remember that all EJ were assembled at one plant.
The guy said this is for usdm 05-current with that part number.
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Old 06-05-2015, 08:06 PM   #827
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hi,
i have 2008 wrx with td04 stage 2 , a have oil pressure problems nowadays. at cold start, my oil pressure increases slowly, at past it sticks at 6.9bar at first cold start.
other thing is when i idle at downhill it shows 1.4-1.5bar(21-23psi) when idle at uphill(same hill) it shows 0.8-0.9 bar(11-13psi) at warm engine. are these symptoms of oil pickup crack? or do you have another ideas?
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Old 06-05-2015, 08:54 PM   #828
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If these symptoms did not exist previously, It would be worth dropping the pan and checking. Better safe than sorry!
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Old 06-06-2015, 03:50 PM   #829
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It's been a while, so I'll ask this question again:

How many 2011+ cars have a CONFIRMED cracked pickup tube? Surely by now there should be plenty, I want to hear/see from the people that actually had this happen on a 2011+ only, not previous years.
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Old 06-10-2015, 02:01 PM   #830
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^ Good luck. This thread comes and goes with decent time lapsed between. Plus it's dies down a lot after the initial discovery that pickups were failing. It's so well documented now most shops are aware and I don't know of any engine builders that stick with the OEM pickup. We even sell pickups to dealerships.

My point being, your search on one forum where this was a hot topic years ago may in fact produce zero results. As around the larger shops and you might get a more up-to-date answer.

As far as the pickups themselves goes. The part number and manufacturing process for the oil pickups is exactly the same now in 2015, as it was in 2006.
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Old 06-10-2015, 03:19 PM   #831
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I bought one last week, just waiting to install it with the other guys in my group. Actually doing 3 oil-pickups install day lol.
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Old 06-10-2015, 09:13 PM   #832
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Except that my friends working at the local subaru dealership tell me they haven't seen a failure on a car newer than 08 and report getting ton's of older ones.

Hence my curiosity.
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Old 06-11-2015, 07:30 AM   #833
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^ I can understand that. Keep in mind there is a lag between model release and failures. You usually see failures coming several years after the model is released, so this information takes time. Call around to others as well. I've talked to some larger dealers that claim to have never seen a single failure ever, and some that say they see them regularly. Strange.
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Old 06-18-2015, 03:25 PM   #834
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^ Good luck. This thread comes and goes with decent time lapsed between. Plus it's dies down a lot after the initial discovery that pickups were failing. It's so well documented now most shops are aware and I don't know of any engine builders that stick with the OEM pickup. We even sell pickups to dealerships.

My point being, your search on one forum where this was a hot topic years ago may in fact produce zero results. As around the larger shops and you might get a more up-to-date answer.

As far as the pickups themselves goes. The part number and manufacturing process for the oil pickups is exactly the same now in 2015, as it was in 2006.

my '12 just went. pretty positive it was the oil pickup as well, its the only logical thing i can think of. was driving along and within 5-10 minutes came a horrible knock. car had plenty of oil in it and all maintenance was done regularly on schedule. i cant be positive but again only thing i can really think of, bringing it into the shop next weekend. and regardless picking up a new one from you guys since ill have the engine out anyways.
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Old 06-18-2015, 05:09 PM   #835
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^ I can understand that. Keep in mind there is a lag between model release and failures. You usually see failures coming several years after the model is released, so this information takes time. Call around to others as well. I've talked to some larger dealers that claim to have never seen a single failure ever, and some that say they see them regularly. Strange.
Wouldn't the location have a majority to do with that? Some states have brutal winters and salt their roads like there is no tomorrow and other states the coldest it gets it 50. I'm assuming these weather factors come into play with the dealerships that have seen the most failures while other's located elsewhere have had less failurs....
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Old 06-19-2015, 08:52 PM   #836
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^ The oil pickup is immersed in oil. The environmental conditions don't play a role. Or at least, there's no conclusive evidence to support that.
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Old 06-23-2015, 02:30 PM   #837
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Just wanted to add this here. 2004 WRX Service records from new. VERY well cared for.

Had the engine cradle off to update to 05 and newer rack style. Did the mounts and oil pick up tube to a Killer Bee. Awesome product and Great fitment. Inspected the stock 113k miles tube and it was in perfect condition. Was it worth it? Yes. I just look at it as another Preventative maintenance like doing the timing belt/pulleys and the up-pipe.
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Old 06-23-2015, 02:51 PM   #838
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my '12 just went. pretty positive it was the oil pickup as well, its the only logical thing i can think of. was driving along and within 5-10 minutes came a horrible knock. car had plenty of oil in it and all maintenance was done regularly on schedule. i cant be positive but again only thing i can really think of, bringing it into the shop next weekend. and regardless picking up a new one from you guys since ill have the engine out anyways.
You have my attention. (and sorry to hear about your car, that sucks)
Please follow up in this thread once you've confirmed.
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Old 06-24-2015, 11:03 AM   #839
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You have my attention. (and sorry to hear about your car, that sucks)
Please follow up in this thread once you've confirmed.
absolutely man will do. ill be bringing it in this saturday and hopefully will have info either that day or at least by Monday. all the research ive done, along with talking to a couple techs i know and trust, has been strengthening my suspicion of oil pickup but of course we will see when we take it all apart. updates will come! and thank you for that, i appreciate it!
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Old 08-12-2015, 04:45 PM   #840
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just trying to get the thread some new life. bought an 06 STi from a friend who was the second owner of the vehicle so i am the third. Oil pick up was never done during second ownership, not sure if it was ever done by the first owner. In any case, bought the car at 96K and at 104K the pick up tube broke. Just authorized an outside shop to do the short block replacement and all the work needed with it. Upgrading to the KillerB pick up while im at it. Subaru outright said no when i asked for help with repair costs. Filed a complaint with NHSTA. I hope that is what everyone did. If enough complaints come through they have to do something right?
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Old 08-19-2015, 12:40 PM   #841
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Adding this as a reference - I replaced the stock tube in my 11 WRX at 62k miles. The original tube looked fine with no cracks. Still glad I put in the killer b unit for peace of mind though.
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Old 09-23-2015, 06:38 PM   #842
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http://i.imgur.com/abVsrzB.jpg

my oil pickup went bad at 70,xxx on my 2006 sti car was completely stock pulled into my garage and was idling and texting my girlfriend to let her know i got home safe and i saw the oil pressure light come on shut it off right as i saw it and luckily the motor was saved and it can live to fight another day attached is how the pickup came off the motor..


i have no idea how the motor didn't blow with how bad it looks,also i would like to add before the pickup went completely to set off the oil pressure light i was experiencing incredibly bad blow by from the pcv going to the intake manifold side and going from pcv to turbo inlet it was alot alot of consumption and all of that completely stopped after replacing the pickup tube

so my theory was maybe it was causing increased crank case pressure from sucking air in through the gaping crack resulting in increased blow by?im not sure but im so happy the blow by has significantly decreased to barely noticeable after replacing my broken pickup fyi. i use moroso catch cans to monitor blow by,anyways i just wanted to share this with you

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Old 12-01-2015, 07:00 PM   #843
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And for the record, the 02-05 WRX and the 04-05 (and possible the 06-08) FXT have a completely different design, however the OP left out the 07+ Legacy/Outback and 08+ Impreza (possible earlier as well on the Legacy) that use the same parts, so there is that as well.
I've read through most of this post, but is my 2007 Forester XT prone to cracked pickup tube? Hondaslayer mentions that there was a complete different design for 06-08 FXT. Thanks!
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Old 12-01-2015, 07:57 PM   #844
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The FXT oil pan change happened around that same time IIRC, which is why the part numbers would have change (pickup always follows the pan used).
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Old 12-15-2015, 12:05 AM   #845
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Default 06 FXT with 158K with cracked tube

Shortly after I purchased my 06 FXT 5sp with 155K, I had the timing belt and associated parts and seals replaced. I also asked that they drop the oil pan to look for gunk and debris since I did not know the maintenance history. The shop called to tell me that the oil pick up tube was cracked. I then read up on this problem. When I picked up the car, I inspected the pick up tube. The crack was almost completely thru the tube and about to fall off. It would not have taken long for a complete failure. I dodged a big bullet that day. I think it is safe to chalk this one up as a failure.
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Happy to hear you caught it in time! I still am in disbelief that subaru won't step up to the plate and take care of the people having these failures.
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I still am in disbelief that subaru won't step up to the plate and take care of the people having these failures.
In Japan cars are rarely kept past 30K miles so this issue VERY rarely gets the spotlight in front of the engineers designing the cars/engines.

Subaru also has very deep pockets for legal defense. That and they are not at fault (making the legal argument even more difficult) because they source them from an OEM.

AS far as failures while under the warranty period, dealers are generally pretty good about it.
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Old 12-15-2015, 08:09 AM   #848
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So as I saw this thread in my User CP, it made me think of the NA Impreza I just purchased. Correct me if I am wrong but the NA engines also have the same oem pickup tube as the turbo ones?
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Happy to hear you caught it in time! I still am in disbelief that subaru won't step up to the plate and take care of the people having these failures.
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Correct me if I am wrong but the NA engines also have the same oem pickup tube as the turbo ones?
The really old ones can be different, but generally after ~2001 they all use the same parts.
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I apologize for not mentioning the year - a 2006. So it'll be swapped out in the next oil change.

Already did it to my WRX years back when I first read about this. And of course with a KillerB pickup.
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