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Old 02-26-2021, 12:56 PM   #1
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Last year, we reported that the wonderful Kia Stinger may never receive a successor. The fastback sports sedan simply hasn't sold in significant numbers, but the good news is, Kia did indicate at the time that the existing Stinger's life cycle would be extended. While the 2021 Stinger received only minor updates, it looks like it may be worth waiting for the 2022 model.

The Korean Car Blog has reported that the base 2.0-liter engine will be replaced by a significantly more powerful 2.5-liter four-cylinder turbocharged engine producing 300 horsepower and 311 lb-ft of torque. Those numbers are a lot better than the 2.0T's outputs of 255 hp and 260 lb-ft. It means the base Stinger will be a lot more powerful than the BMW 330i, which also manages 255 hp.

This news follows a rumor from July last year where it was indicated that the 2.0T engine would give way to a more powerful 2.5T unit. This bigger engine is already used in other vehicles like the Genesis GV80 and Kia K5 GT. It will be equipped to the Stinger GT Line, which will also receive other enhancements like a standard 10.25-inch touchscreen allowing access to navigation, reflector-style LED headlights, and smart cruise control. A Harman Kardon sound system will be on offer as part of an optional Sun & Sound package for $2,300.

As before, the GT1 and GT2 trims will make use of the same 3.3-liter twin-turbocharged V6 engine, although power increases marginally from 365 to 368 hp. A new electronic variable exhaust should amplify the wail of that V6 when Sport mode is hooked up.

In the 2021 Stinger, this engine enables a 0-60 mph time of just 4.7 seconds with all-wheel drive. Other smaller changes across the lineup will include new wheel designs, upgraded leather upholstery, and better safety tech like lane-following assist.

The latest report also presents pricing for the 2022 Stinger, which begins at $37,135 for the GT Line RWD, whereas the 2021 Stinger begins at just over $33,000. The GT Line with AWD costs $39,335. The GT1 RWD goes for $44,735, increasing to $46,935 for the AWD derivative. For the GT2 RWD, expect to pay $52,335 or $54,535 when equipped with AWD. There's no official word just yet on when the 2022 Kia Stinger will arrive in the US.








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Old 02-26-2021, 01:34 PM   #2
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Meh, could be a good car but the traction control /stability control programming totally ruins the experience.
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Old 02-26-2021, 01:49 PM   #3
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Having owned an Auto for the past year, I can go back to saying "No manual no care" I tried, I really did, but even a really good automatic isn't enough for me.
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Old 02-26-2021, 02:08 PM   #4
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For an all new vehicle released in 2018 this car got quickly dated inside and out.
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Old 02-26-2021, 03:02 PM   #5
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300 hp base engine makes it a much more compelling vehicle but its starting price of $37k is not. This is surprising considering how it has been a slow seller. If it had a MT option, even for the base engine, then maybe it would be something to really consider. But there are a lot of options at that price point.
It's a shame because I love the look and lift back.
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Old 02-26-2021, 03:11 PM   #6
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Having owned an Auto for the past year, I can go back to saying "No manual no care" I tried, I really did, but even a really good automatic isn't enough for me.
No offense intended but aren't you driving an IS350? I personally would NOT qualify the auto in that car as particularly good. Try something with the ZF8.

I do understand the sentiment though from the manual crowd. Drove the SS 1LE last summer with the Tremec and it was fantastic to drive with that manual.....once it warmed up
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Having owned an Auto for the past year, I can go back to saying "No manual no care" I tried, I really did, but even a really good automatic isn't enough for me.

Agreed. I would never buy an automatic "fun" car again.
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Old 02-26-2021, 07:12 PM   #8
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Agreed. I would never buy an automatic "fun" car again.
Well yeah, the WRX only comes with a **** CVT. You had no choice.
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Old 02-26-2021, 07:34 PM   #9
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Well yeah, the WRX only comes with a **** CVT. You had no choice.

I was referring to the DSG but yeah, CVT WRX is a no bueno. I just like shifting my own gears.
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Instead of the Axe, 2022 Kia Stinger Survives With Refresh, New Engine

Small changes make the sporty-GT a more handsome performance machine.
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Recently we were armchair quarterbacking the theory that the Kia Stinger was not long for this world. Even though the Stinger itself is a great car, lackluster sales are a sign that potential buyers aren't as fired up as us critics. But we're happy to report that, for now at least, we've been proven wrong. Kia just announced a slew of updates to make the Stinger both more handsome and more upscale. Plus, the sedan is getting a more powerful four-cylinder engine.

For starters, the exterior of the car gets some slight revisions. Up front the tiger nose grille gets wider—a trend Kia has been executing throughout its lineup these days—and the headlights get a slight redesign to give them a sharper look. There's a new tail light design at the back, and the rear-facing turn signals get a design that's meant to mimic a checkered flag. The rear bumper gets a slight redesign too, with larger exhaust ports that can now be finished in bright silver.

Kia is also introducing two new wheel options—one 18-inches in diameter, the other measuring 19-inches—that it says enhance the sporty, GT personality of the Stinger. There are also two new exterior packages. The Dark Package features a gloss back rear diffuser surround and blacked-out exhaust tips. The Black Package adds 19-inch matte black wheels, a spoiler for the rear liftgate, and blacked out mirror caps.

Inside, the cabin is more GT and less sports car than before. Buyers can now spec Nappa leather in either Saturn Black, Red or Beige—and that's on top of the colors that were already on offer. The instrument cluster ditches physical dials in favor of a fully digital driver's display, and the infotainment screen swells to 10.25 inches (up from 7.0 inches).

Now on to powertrains. Kia is offering a new 2.5-liter turbocharged engine just for North America and Korea. This mill produces 300 horsepower and 311 lb-ft of torque. That makes it more powerful than the current 255-hp, 260-lb-ft base 2.0-liter turbo four-cylinder, but less potent than the 365-hp, 376-lb-ft 3.3-liter twin-turbo V-6. It's unclear if the new engine will eventually replace one of these existing choices here in the U.S. Globally, the two older engines remain unchanged, except for the 3.3-liter gaining a more prominent exhaust note with the addition of an electronic variable exhaust valve system. All three engines pair to an eight-speed automatic transmission.

A Kia spokesperson told us that the U.S.-market Stinger will be a carry-over for 2021, meaning it won't have any of these updates. We expect these changes to make it here for the 2022 model year.





https://www.motortrend.com/news/2021...etails-photos/
This news about the Stinger continuing production with upgrades was confirmed by the company back in August. Dunno what this Korean Car Blog is doing repeating 6 month old news.
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Old 02-26-2021, 08:41 PM   #11
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I was referring to the DSG but yeah, CVT WRX is a no bueno. I just like shifting my own gears.
I have been a manual guy through and through since I learned how to drive.
But, after driving a good auto like the ZF8 for almost 6 years, I found it best to let the thing in D or S and allow it to do its thing; I seldom used the paddles (only for a timely downshift here and there and a handful of 2nd gear launches in the rain).
It's that good of a tranny; it allows the engine to shine through and it gets out of the way.
So far, my experience as been pretty much the same with the 7-speed DSG in the Golf R; I set the thing in D or S and focus on driving and hitting apexes on backroads.
Do I miss a manual? Yes, but not that badly; I may pick up an inexpensive car with a manual to mess around with at some point.

In any case, before the base engine update, I was looking at perf figures, and the Stinger was a bit quicker than an LXT for about the same price. Food for thoughts.
(and, of course, the Stinger has a hatch not a trunk, a decent planetary gear auto and not a CVT,...).
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Old 02-27-2021, 11:56 AM   #12
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Would love to see Hyundai/Kia try a proper small, light sports coupe again with that engine and MT to compete in MX-5 and BRZ/86 segment unlike the prior Genesis coupe which seemed trapped in Z-car land - faster than the 4 cyl. cars, but unable to take on the V8-powered Pony cars where they were priced.
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I have been a manual guy through and through since I learned how to drive.
But, after driving a good auto like the ZF8 for almost 6 years, I found it best to let the thing in D or S and allow it to do its thing; I seldom used the paddles (only for a timely downshift here and there and a handful of 2nd gear launches in the rain).
It's that good of a tranny; it allows the engine to shine through and it gets out of the way.
So far, my experience as been pretty much the same with the 7-speed DSG in the Golf R; I set the thing in D or S and focus on driving and hitting apexes on backroads.
Do I miss a manual? Yes, but not that badly; I may pick up an inexpensive car with a manual to mess around with at some point.

In any case, before the base engine update, I was looking at perf figures, and the Stinger was a bit quicker than an LXT for about the same price. Food for thoughts.
(and, of course, the Stinger has a hatch not a trunk, a decent planetary gear auto and not a CVT,...).
Yeah I rarely use the paddles. If I'm in heavy traffic leave it in efficient mode and once things open up move to sport or sport+. The TCU shifts faster than my brain can tell my fingers to shift the paddles. IMO the only time you would benefit from using the paddles is if the TCU programming is poor but at least in BMW's its superb.
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Old 03-04-2021, 08:21 AM   #14
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The 2022 Kia Stinger will get a number of important changes but at a rather hefty cost. According to a recent Kia order guide, the sporty car's base pricing will increase by up to $3,000 with the addition of a 2.5L turbo and updates both inside and out. At the entry-level, it will be more expensive than a Genesis G70.

To start, the Stinger GT-Line will cost $37,135. That's based on an MSRP of $36,090 plus a destination charge of $1,045. At that price, the Stinger will be $3,000 more expensive than the previous year's price of $34,135. Based on our analysis, the new Stinger will cost $110 more than a 2021 Genesis G70 ($37,025).

That said, there will be some pretty big changes. First, the Stinger will ditch the current 255-hp 2.0T base engine in favor of a 2.5T mill making 300 hp and 311 lb-ft of torque. For reference, the G70 comes with a 2.0T engine rated at 252 hp and 260 lb-ft of torque. The Stinger will also gain a number of upscale features.

Exterior updates include new LED headlights, a new full-width taillight design, new 18" and 19" wheel designs, and restyled lower rear fascia that will house larger exhaust finishers. Inside, it'll get a 4.2" digital gauge cluster and 10.25" widescreen infotainment screen, plus revised Nappa leather seats in the GT2 trim.

At the top of the range, the Stinger GT2 will reach a whopping $54,535, $900 more than the previous year. It'll come with a 3.3T engine rated at 368 hp with 376 lb-ft of torque. That's nearly identical to the current car's 365 hp and 376 lb-ft rating. However, a new special edition package is set to push pricing to nearly $56,000.

The as-yet-unnamed package for the GT2 will cost $1,295 and add a rear spoiler, black badging and fender trim, unique black wheels, dark exhaust tips, and carbon-fiber interior trim. With the package, the car could be more expensive than an all-wheel-drive Audi A5 Sportback with Prestige Package (MSRP $53,445).

The changes could help better differentiate the Stinger from the G70 in terms of features and performance. That said, it's too early to compare prices with the redesigned 2022 G70, which has not gone on sale yet. While the G70's current engines will carry over, it will feature a more modern look akin to the larger G80.
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They didn't have to do too much to revitalize the Stinger. There wasn't enough interest to revive the Cadenza & K900, hence their discontinuation, so some of those buyers will migrate to the Stinger (& some will move to a Genesis).

The take rate was skewed heavily towards the GT versions, so they spiced up the base models to make them more appealing.
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the rear quarter shot of that car is still so damn hideous. I actually like the design of the rest of the car, but man, the lines on the rear quarter just suck. The stupid tail light extension, and the C pillar just make me barf.
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They didn't have to do too much to revitalize the Stinger. There wasn't enough interest to revive the Cadenza & K900, hence their discontinuation, so some of those buyers will migrate to the Stinger (& some will move to a Genesis).

The take rate was skewed heavily towards the GT versions, so they spiced up the base models to make them more appealing.
Kia discontinued the Cadenza (K7) but are replacing it with the new K8 but most likely not coming to the U.S. The K900 (K9) is still being sold in other markets but they only sold 305 units in the U.S. last year.

The new base engine is in line with the G70's new base engine. The new 2.5t Theta III is being used in a lot of new Hyundai/Kia products replacing the 2.0t Theta II in many applications.
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I specifically didn't mention the K8 because it's not slated to come here, therefore it's not relevant for us. I suppose I should have clarified since we have some non-US members.

I wish they would bring the K8, as it's supposed to be more sporty and more luxurious than the K7/Cadenza (though slightly larger).
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$56,000 for a sporty Kia? **** that.
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$56,000 for a sporty Kia? **** that.
Go drive one. It might change your mind.
(not that I'd spend that much - I wait for used prices to drop and get it on sale)
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the rear quarter shot of that car is still so damn hideous. I actually like the design of the rest of the car, but man, the lines on the rear quarter just suck. The stupid tail light extension, and the C pillar just make me barf.
Alot of hyun/kia newer sedans look hideous from many angles. they went from looking subtle to trying copy bmw-ish to cram as many design element as possible.
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This one looks very Audi. Think an Audi designer was working at Kia for these models.

I like this car, but I just want a fun car, not a powerful sedan. I also find automatics boring. My 335 had incredible torque to push me to the seat. Sure, it could go insanely fast, but it was still boring to drive.
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