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Old 04-05-2006, 09:31 PM   #1
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My wife and I are looking into buying a Jeep Wrangler which will be her primary vehicle. We found one for $11,995 w/80k miles. It is the SE model with the 4cyl. engine. I would like your input on reliablilty, problems, etc. I tried to register at a jeep forum, but they don't allow hotmail accounts, so NASIOC it is. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 04-05-2006, 09:41 PM   #2
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My wife and I are looking into buying a Jeep Wrangler which will be her primary vehicle. We found one for $11,995 w/80k miles. It is the SE model with the 4cyl. engine. I would like your input on reliablilty, problems, etc. I tried to register at a jeep forum, but they don't allow hotmail accounts, so NASIOC it is. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 04-05-2006, 09:43 PM   #3
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Old 04-05-2006, 09:44 PM   #4
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Old 04-05-2006, 09:48 PM   #5
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Go over to www.JeepsUnlimited.com. I don't remember if they allow hotmail accounts anymore...

I can't tell you anything about either Wrangler version since I'm a CJ guy...

Oh, while you're over at JU, check in with the OT section... name changes regularly. Right now it's Love Monkey's Legs and Eggs.
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Old 04-05-2006, 09:51 PM   #6
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My wife and I are looking into buying a Jeep Wrangler which will be her primary vehicle. We found one for $11,995 w/80k miles. It is the SE model with the 4cyl. engine. I would like your input on reliablilty, problems, etc. I tried to register at a jeep forum, but they don't allow hotmail accounts, so NASIOC it is. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

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Well, Here is what I can tell you. I had a 04 subaru wrx, traded it in for an 03 wrangler. Drove that thing for 6 months, and HATED it. Got rid of it for my 05 wrx wagon. Its loud, and rides like the used whore on the corner. DO NOT get the 4cyl. It has NO oomph. Plus, it only gets like 1 or 2 MPG better on gas.
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:38 PM   #7
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A Wrangler or a Suby are very different vehicles with very different design intentions. Baffles me why so many people run around in Wranglers never intending to use them in the manner intended. I wouldn't mind getting a YJ to use until the Cj project is done, but certainly never as a DD. The ride is harsh compared to my WRX, the handling cannot compare even on WRX's worst day and the only way a YJ or my CJ is going to get beyond 20mpg is if it's being towed. On the other hand, the WRX is useless for doing real work around the property. Try dragging half a tree with it, winching in a stuck piece of equipment or wallowing thorugh 10" of mud.
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:26 PM   #8
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A Wrangler or a Suby are very different vehicles with very different design intentions. Baffles me why so many people run around in Wranglers never intending to use them in the manner intended. I wouldn't mind getting a YJ to use until the Cj project is done, but certainly never as a DD. The ride is harsh compared to my WRX, the handling cannot compare even on WRX's worst day and the only way a YJ or my CJ is going to get beyond 20mpg is if it's being towed. On the other hand, the WRX is useless for doing real work around the property. Try dragging half a tree with it, winching in a stuck piece of equipment or wallowing thorugh 10" of mud.
True, but I've never found Wranglers very useful for general work. I wouldn't be comfortable towing anything, the wheelbase is too short. You can't haul sheets of drywall of half a ton of dirt with a Wrangler like you can with a pickup. IMO the only reason to have a Wrangler is for the offroad capability, and 99.9% of Wrangler owners never use the offroad capability.

To the OP, avoid the Wrangler. It's an awful handling, awful riding, zero room inside, zero oomph, low MPG crap box. The only reason to own a Wrangler is if you need the offroad capability, or, if you are a college student attending WVU trying to be cool.
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:31 PM   #9
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Jeeps are absolutely worthless unless you're off-roading it. Interior SUCKS. they're loud as hell, VERY uncomfortable to ride in, and are expensive as hell for what you get which isn't much. The 4cyl option is a piece of crap. Mileage is horrible. If you have a soft top you risk getting broken into very easily.

Talk about an unrefined useless piece of metal.
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Old 04-06-2006, 12:08 AM   #10
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A Jeep Wrangler with 80k miles? Hope you have lots of money, or time.
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Old 04-06-2006, 12:41 AM   #11
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that seems like way too much money for a 4cyl high mileage wrangler.
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Old 04-06-2006, 01:02 AM   #12
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Old 04-06-2006, 01:47 AM   #13
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Sorry for the confusion...trading in the WRX isn't part of the plan. She is currently using a family members car for the time being. The Wrangler will be a second vehicle for us.

I do agree the price is high, but it's at a Lithia dealership; all of their prices seem to start high and end low.

Thanks for the info on the 4cyl. I want her to get a 6cyl. for obvious reasons. Overall, how would you rate the reliability?

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Old 04-06-2006, 02:16 AM   #14
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my family had a wrangler at one point. 6cyl 5 speed, hard and soft tops. in the first 11 years we had it, we put less than 10,000 miles on it. THATS how crappy it is to drive. it was fun as hell to offroad in, and we often drove it to the lake (3 mile drive) or pool (5 mile drive) because it was no big thing to drive it home soaking wet, but it was total **** to drive any sort of distance at all. my 92 landcruiser was downright cushy compared to that thing, in ride and everything. plus it was better offroad.

cn: don't buy it unless its the only way to shut her up or you get a crazy deal. you'll be selling with a relative quickness i predict.

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Old 04-06-2006, 02:17 AM   #15
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yeesh.. as the primary vehicle? im a jeepfan but.. hmm.. good luck with that ..
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Old 04-06-2006, 03:26 AM   #16
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My Rubicon works decently well for a daily driver and has enough room with the rear seat removed. Sold my 02 WRX, bought a used Mini Cooper S (big mistake), and traded my Mini for a 2003 Rubicon. My two complaints are fuel mileage (14mpg city/highway) and wind noise. I have half doors with sliding glass windows and a hard top. If you think new wranglers ride poorly, you don't know what you are talking about. TJ's (97+) with coil spring suspension ride fine. Granted it isn't a frickin' caddy and you can tell it has heavy solid axles, but it certainly puts my modded WRX to shame in terms of ride (used to have coilovers on the WRX, etc). The interior is simple, but hey the seats are comfortable and it is a Jeep. I head to the Oceano dunes several times a month so it is worth it for me to drive a Jeep every day. I do miss the on-road handling of a car, but I definely use the off road abilities of the Jeep.

Do your research before you buy - a lot of Jeeps are street Jeeps (not thrashed), but some are beat to hell. Try to swing a Rubicon if you can - they are probably the most capable stock Jeep ever produced and have a very strong following. Front and rear lockers, 4:1 low range, bigger axles, better tires - the Wrangler Rubicon is to Jeep what WRX STi is to Subaru.

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Old 04-06-2006, 07:37 AM   #18
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I have owned 2 Wranglers 99 and a 00.
They suck on reliability. They never died on me but the 4 wheel drive bites ass. The brakes seem to go every three oil change (no joke). My parents had a total of 4 grand cherokees with the same problem.
Don't get it man, especially with 80k on it. And yes DEF go with the 6cyl. I have owned both. Hope that helps
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Wranglers are terrible. We've had one in the house for about 6yrs (a 2000 Sahara). My STi with coilovers rides 100% better than the Jeep. Whoever quoted 13mpg was on the money. The 6cyl. has more oomph, but sacrifices some reliability. We got a 4yr/80k warranty, and at 78,000 miles there was an oil starvation issue and the block blew. Covered under warrantee. 8k later and the head gasket went. 5k after that and the radiator bit it. Now the front sounds like it needs suspension work. I HATE THE JEEP.

Actually, in the Summertime, on a beautiful day, with the top and doors off, I like it. That's the only time. Oh yeah, it's terrible in the snow compared to the Subie too.
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i was looking into wranglers a while ago, and i'm glad i decided against getting one. here's to hoping my SHO holds out for a while longer.
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Jeeps are absolutely worthless unless you're off-roading it. Interior SUCKS. they're loud as hell, VERY uncomfortable to ride in, and are expensive as hell for what you get which isn't much. The 4cyl option is a piece of crap. Mileage is horrible. If you have a soft top you risk getting broken into very easily.

Talk about an unrefined useless piece of metal.
yep - i had one for 9 months

DO NOT buy it for a primary vehicle
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Old 04-06-2006, 07:56 AM   #22
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The wrangler is good for offroading and summer months at the beach or just driving around with the top (and possibly doors depending on the person) off. Its probably the best summer car to drive at the beach but other than that its like a big tonka truck
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Old 04-06-2006, 08:03 AM   #23
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My dad fixed a jeep at the shop and put it up for sale. berfore It sold I drove it all the time for like 3 months straightand was going to buy it from him. after that time I decided I never wanted that to be a daily driver.

I agree 100% with the guys post above me
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The wrangler is good for offroading and summer months at the beach or just driving around with the top (and possibly doors depending on the person) off. Its probably the best summer car to drive at the beach but other than that its like a big tonka truck
tell that to the wigger i saw last week driving his 2005 Rubicon with 1 foot lift kit and 24 inch spinners...

it looked like a life-size micro machine.
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i had an old 89 with the 4.2L carburated motor (was a torquey beast!), was loads of fun but unreliable as hell. i wanna get another one some day but only for a 2nd vehicle, never again would i own one as a daily driver. i used to put 20,000miles/year on the thing. i think i replaced everything but the block before it was sold. comfort was never really a problem, you decide to make certain sacrifices when you purchase a vehicle like that, it's a truck, a simple truck at that. all these people crying about how bad the ride is need to grow a pair & deal with it
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