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Old 02-19-2019, 08:19 PM   #26
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My wife doesnít consider my WRX as legit DD....I will get the CTR just because those rattles makes me crazy !
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:10 PM   #27
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STI for me. CTR has no heated seats. Deal breaker for me. Its that simple.
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Old 02-20-2019, 07:31 AM   #28
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STI for me. CTR has no heated seats. Deal breaker for me. Its that simple.
Really? No heated seats in a $35k car? I definitely feel better about not giving it a serious look. FWD, no heated seats, more cramped interior, autoblipping. I'm sure it's a blast to drive as a summer car or as a year round car in the Southwest, but everywhere else? No thanks. Not anymore at least.
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Old 02-20-2019, 07:53 AM   #29
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Any reason you aren't considering a Focus RS? AWD, hatchback, 350hp, no ringland or rod bearings issues and growing aftermarket support. I feel it atleast deserves consideration with the other 3 cars you have listed.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:20 AM   #30
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Because ditched by the manufacturer? That was the key reason why I decided not to buy. Ford dealers in my area were completely oblivious about the head gasket recall too per locals so.. And the interior was pretty cheap. If between the RS and CTR I would not hesitate to go with the CTR.
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Old 02-20-2019, 11:47 AM   #31
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Because ditched by the manufacturer? That was the key reason why I decided not to buy. Ford dealers in my area were completely oblivious about the head gasket recall too per locals so.. And the interior was pretty cheap. If between the RS and CTR I would not hesitate to go with the CTR.
No question. CTR is vastly superior to the Ford in all performance and comfort categories (not to mention price at about $10k cheaper) except HP.
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Old 02-20-2019, 12:32 PM   #32
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No question. CTR is vastly superior to the Ford in all performance and comfort categories (not to mention price at about $10k cheaper) except HP.
I do like all the performance the CTR offers but I just find it extremely ugly. I used to be a Honda guy too and lusted over the EK9 CTR and DC2 ITR but I just havenít been able to get on board with the styling of the current model.
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Old 02-20-2019, 12:34 PM   #33
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It's ugly, yeah, but we're Subaru folks here. We're kind of used to ugly.
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Old 02-20-2019, 01:49 PM   #34
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Really? No heated seats in a $35k car? I definitely feel better about not giving it a serious look. FWD, no heated seats, more cramped interior, autoblipping. I'm sure it's a blast to drive as a summer car or as a year round car in the Southwest, but everywhere else? No thanks. Not anymore at least.
Yup, thereís a guy on YouTube with one in Pa that drives it in the snow. It also has a giant aluminum shift knob that fluctuates more with temperatures than Donaldís Twitter feed.
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Old 02-20-2019, 10:40 PM   #35
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If you drive in a area that snows often.....Subie. If you live in CA, I'd try the Type R.

But I'd wait and see if the new STI, if you can wait
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Old 02-21-2019, 01:02 AM   #36
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No question. CTR is vastly superior to the Ford in all performance and comfort categories (not to mention price at about $10k cheaper) except HP.
Vastly superior huh?
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:30 AM   #37
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if you are talking about fuel economy I mean at least mentioning it then what about a fiesta st.
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Old 02-23-2019, 03:32 PM   #38
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STI... I just can get used to that new Civic body style
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Old 02-23-2019, 04:32 PM   #39
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STI for me. CTR has no heated seats. Deal breaker for me. Its that simple.
Really ? Heated seats are a deal breaker ? smh
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Old 02-23-2019, 04:35 PM   #40
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No question. CTR is vastly superior to the Ford in all performance and comfort categories (not to mention price at about $10k cheaper) except HP.
I would personally get the CTR but your are wrong. RS is faster in a straight line and matched the CTR at the VIR:


https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...mparison-test/

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...storical-data/
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Old 02-23-2019, 04:35 PM   #41
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Vastly superior huh?
Yeah, I laughed at that as well.
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Old 02-23-2019, 08:46 PM   #42
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Really ? Heated seats are a deal breaker ? smh
Ever deal with an angry cold wife? Yea itís my deal breaker lol
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Old 02-24-2019, 02:56 AM   #43
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if youre spending 35k on a ford it better have a V8 but thats just me. if you're even thinking about modding a brand new sti and ruining your warranty for only +20 hp and going down that road. do yourself a favor and buy usernames "vladiwrx" wrx sti hatch thats for sale if youre in CA. He is a cobb protuner and the car is mint and a DD beast.

a new sti needs about $4k thrown at it (parts only) and the drive train warranty voided to feel ballsy imo
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Old 02-24-2019, 12:30 PM   #44
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The CTR looks like a five year old's toy car. If you can handle all of the criticism you'll get for its goofy looks, it's probably the best of the three. I own a WRX, because the STi was just intolerable on rough roads. And, we have a lot of them around here. The CTR has adjustable suspension, the shifter is top-notch, and the engine revs high. The exhaust sound is poor in the CTR, though. However, as long as you shut your eyes before you get in, you'll likely prefer it over the STi or WRX.

Ughh...what am I saying? The CTR is just so cheap looking with all of that gawdy flair. I like to look at my car so I would never be able to get passed that.
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:15 PM   #45
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So, I want to buy a DD, that can handle spirited driving, some aftermarket mods, and can be something actually fun to drive during my commute to work.
I'd say the WRX, unless you really want an STi - the WRX limited would be a more comfortable daily. If you aren't autocrossing or tracking the car, I would think much of the additional capability you gain with the STi wouldn't be things you'd see a benefit of.

That being sait, if you already have your heart set on the STi, just get it. It's a great car.
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Old 02-24-2019, 11:50 PM   #46
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I'd go with the STI, but then again, you are asking people on a Subaru forum whether they would choose a Subaru or a Honda.

First of all, in my opinion, why would you pay so much money for a front wheel drive car? Not only does it look ridiculous with all the goofy spoilers and fake carbon fiber (I would have thought they could at least use SOME real CF on a car that costs that much money) but to me the new CTR feels like someone who goes to the gym and only works on their arms. The front suspension and brakes look bulky and ready for some abuse, but when you look at the back, it is no different than any other Civic on the road! Yeah, ok, maybe the spring rate is different, and the shocks valved slightly differently, but it still looks stupid to have 6 pot brake callipers up front and the single piston electric park brake callipers in the rear. Electronic park brakes.. ugh... Also, not sure if you know or not, but the CTR is known for overheating on the track. What the hell? How does Honda release a car like this without working out all the bugs first? Honda's quality control has gone down A LOT in recent years, and shows no signs of getting any better.

Anyway, as an old school Honda guy, I think it is sacrilegious to have a turbo Type-R car. I think this new car pales in comparison to what the Type-R's of old were. To me, the DC2R was and still is an incredible work of engineering. At least Subaru still builds cars that are true to their roots, turbo and all wheel drive.

So yeah, Get the STI! Or if that's a little too much for you, the WRX is also a great choice. Either one will leave you with plenty of room for mods to get it just how you want it, if you feel the need. That CTR is pretty much strung out to its max already as far as usability. Anything more and you pretty much need slicks to get the power down to the pavement. Besides, it is still front wheel drive! Honda put themselves at a huge disadvantage by doing that, but then again, they are doing a lot of questionable things lately with their cars...
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Old 02-25-2019, 01:09 AM   #47
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If I was going to make zero modifications and I can honestly say that is a sure thing, I would pick up a 2018 Focus RS if any are still available. Stock to stock, it's better than the STI.

If modifications are even a possibility, I would go with the STI - so much aftermarket support for parts, and tuning, you can basically make the car do anything you want it to. Not to mention the tuner shops out there that know this car inside and out.
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Old 02-25-2019, 10:27 AM   #48
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If I was going to make zero modifications and I can honestly say that is a sure thing, I would pick up a 2018 Focus RS if any are still available. Stock to stock, it's better than the STI.

If modifications are even a possibility, I would go with the STI - so much aftermarket support for parts, and tuning, you can basically make the car do anything you want it to. Not to mention the tuner shops out there that know this car inside and out.
Yes, I would definitely like to do modifications, and I got into researching the Focus RS last night and it threw another wrench into my plan, which put me down the rabbit hole of the fiesta st... and now Iím beyond confused
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:06 AM   #49
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It's nice to have choices! Don't forget about GTIs and Golf Rs.

While I don't think you can make a wrong choice out of the cars you've presented, just get an STI and never look back. They are great cars with a great aftermarket and tons of information out there.
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Old 02-25-2019, 11:14 AM   #50
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Over a year now with my STI and do not regret it! Best decision ever! Sport car... 4 door... AWD... you can fit family and friends...
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