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Old 02-19-2019, 01:24 PM   #51
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Old 02-19-2019, 09:42 PM   #53
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So a man can kill an elk with his bare hands, or do you mean he could get one to leave him alone?
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Old 02-19-2019, 10:23 PM   #54
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So a man can kill an elk with his bare hands, or do you mean he could get one to leave him alone?
Roosevelt Elk, probably neither, their huge.
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Old 02-19-2019, 10:34 PM   #55
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Roosevelt Elk, probably neither, their huge.
The anticipation is killing me, their huge WHAT? What is it!?!?!
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Old 02-19-2019, 11:17 PM   #56
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The anticipation is killing me, their huge WHAT? What is it!?!?!
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Oh, sorry, Dongs!! Huge dongs, they are quite the 'swordsman' don't ya know.
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Old 02-20-2019, 06:53 AM   #57
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This works! I've done it to a German Shepard that I stopped from killing another dog. I snuck my hand in between his teeth while they were locked on the neck of the other dog and shoved my hand down it's throat, it got real f***ing confused, and started choking and after that wanted nothing to do with me, looked at me like I was some kind of evil wizard.

Also, people grossly underestimate the lethality of the bipedal body plan. Being able to gouge eyes, fishook, twist things and above all punch and swing fists/elbows/knees/feet like sledge hammers defeats all but the most robust North American quadrupedal predator setup, bears.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I just couldn't help but read the last part in Dwight's voice...

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Old 02-20-2019, 07:40 AM   #58
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Now this is all making me think that I too with my bare hands can kill a cougar or bear or whatever.
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Old 03-01-2019, 12:38 PM   #59
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Whoops! (still could kill me, I bet)

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FORT COLLINS, Colo. – The final necropsy report of the mountain lion killed by Colorado trail runner Travis Kauffman estimates the age of the lion at three to four months.

The necropsy performed by Colorado Parks and Wildlife veterinarians in Fort Collins identified the lion as a "kitten'' with a weight of 24 pounds. However, the animal was heavily scavenged and officials estimated the animal's live weight was 35 to 40 pounds. The report listed the animal in "fair condition'' with no diseases noted.

According to the necropsy, "blood-staining of the scavenged tissues suggests the scavenging took place perimortem (meaning taking place at or around the time of death).''

The necropsy went on to say the "pattern of scavenging is reminiscent of feline predation.'' One identifiable set of teeth marks in the dead animal matched the size of the dead animal's teeth, likely indicating the dead lion was partially eaten by its siblings, which is a lion behavior.

Officials later trapped two lions in Horsetooth Mountain Open Space, where the attack occurred, that they believe to be the dead lion's siblings. Officials moved the animals to a wildlife rehabilitation facility with the intent to release them back into the wild.

Kauffman said at a press conference held in Fort Collins on Feb. 14, 10 days after the attack, that he feared he would be attacked by other mountain lions in the area. He said he especially feared the mother of the lion he killed would confront him.

Officials described the animal as a juvenile throughout the investigation. Though kitten is commonly associated with very young members of the feline family, in the report the word could simply mean an immature lion.

The necropsy, which was performed the same day of the attack, stated there was abundant dried blood within the fur between the paw pads as well as surrounding the nose and mouth of the animal.

Wildlife officials did not immediately respond to a question regarding if any blood from Kauffman was found on the animal.

Determining the animal's sex was difficult because the sex organs were missing, presumed scavenged. However, the intact pelvic region did not indicate a uterus, and officials believe the animal was a male.

The animal had abrasions and bruising on the top of its head, with additional abrasions on the bridge of its nose and above the right eye. The larynx and trachea had extensive tiny hemorrhage pinpoints, indicating manual strangulation.

More: Meet the Colorado trail runner who killed a mountain lion in self-defense

The 31-year-old Kauffman, who stands 5-feet-10 and weighs 150 pounds, told authorities that during the struggle he was able to hit the lion on the head with a rock then use his foot to step on its throat, ultimately killing it.

His story garnered international attention due to the rarity of a person being attacked by a mountain lion and, even more rare, the person being attacked killing the predator.

Wildlife officials said even though the lion was young, Kauffman did everything right in defending himself and praised him for being able to fend off the mountain lion.

The two trapped lions from Horsetooth Mountain Open Space remain at an undisclosed rehabilitation facility, where they will be fed to put on weight and will not be released into the wild until the animals have a strong chance of survival, officials say.

When trapped, the animals were generally in "good condition, hungry, but not emaciated'' and had no diseases or abnormalities detected.

This article originally appeared on Fort Collins Coloradoan: Mountain lion killed by Colorado trail runner was a kitten, necropsy report says
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When asked for comment Travis responded, "Look Miles. MOUNTAIN LION kitten. Did you see my ****ing face, *******?"
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Seriously.

All this has taught me is if I ever encounter a full grown mountain lion and I have a gun...I'll kill myself. **** having an actual living monster tear me apart and eat me.
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Seriously.

All this has taught me is if I ever encounter a full grown mountain lion and I have a gun...I'll kill myself. **** having an actual living monster tear me apart and eat me.
I wonder if shark attack victims that end up mostly torso have something different in them to fight back. I think I'd be done at knowing a shark is "only testing if you're food". few minutes to drown at worst, few seconds if the shark finds you're food. Years of recovery? Hard pass.
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Kai, you may want to work on target practice. Or maybe just limit hikes to with groups.


If a mountain lion does it what about a thousand pound grizzly? Tis very good to know ones surroundings.
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Kai, you may want to work on target practice. Or maybe just limit hikes to with groups.


If a mountain lion does it what about a thousand pound grizzly? Tis very good to know ones surroundings.
lol, unless its a DE.50, your carry gun will be useless against a grizzly. Bringing a slower friend is always the safest bet
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lol, unless its a DE.50, your carry gun will be useless against a grizzly. Bringing a slower friend is always the safest bet
Still, anything less than a kill shot and you're still toast against a grizzly. Everybody who can face down a charging grizzly and calmly aim a DE, raise their hand.
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If a mountain lion does it what about a thousand pound grizzly? Tis very good to know ones surroundings.
It's why I prefer hiking with dogs. Those ******** noses and ears will alert you to danger a mile and a half out from where you can possibly see predators.

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Bringing a slower friend is always the safest bet
Also why I prefer a dog with me. I love ya buddy but if a monster comes I'm tossing you to him. Sorry not sorry. It's how our species got to liking one another. I give you food, you die in an attempt to save me.
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if RDR2 taught me anything, it's that all bear attacks are survivable and long as you have a big ass knife to repeatedly stab it under the neck as its mauling you.
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I prefer backpacking with some degree of fear. Makes it more exciting.
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All this has taught me is if I ever encounter a full grown mountain lion and I have a gun...I'll kill myself. **** having an actual living monster tear me apart and eat me.
This is the only reason I carry. I frequently hike in cougar territory. Never seen one, though I have come across kills, scat etc...
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Hiking is just white people's version of walking through a sketchy neighborhood.
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I still remember this post. Ha! Interesting how they still go for our skulls.

https://forums.nasioc.com/forums/sho....php?t=2786284
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Hiking is just white people's version of walking through a sketchy neighborhood.
I enjoy that too. I don't go out of my way to find sketchy neighborhoods to walk through...but I enjoy my 5 AM walks through interesting territory.

I prefer backpacking however. It's much prettier.
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I enjoy that too. I don't go out of my way to find sketchy neighborhoods to walk through...but I enjoy my 5 AM walks through interesting territory.

I prefer backpacking however. It's much prettier.
Graffiti laden back alleys are the autumnal foliage of the city world.

Drunken hobos are what, the retarded Lyme disease infested deer?
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Graffiti laden back alleys are the autumnal foliage of the city world.

Drunken hobos are what, the retarded lyme disease infested deer?
I recently walked by a homeless dude that said, "Hey man, mind closing the window? It's drafty over here".

I stopped with a WTF expression on my face.

He laughed, "Just a homeless joke."

Well played my man...well played.




The police recently booted the overnight homeless out of the local park so they've overflowed onto the sidewalks. With it being winter the smells aren't bad...so far.
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Then you have your butt raping hillbillies from Deliverance. These city peeps were just out for a canoe trip in the river valley in the forest and then bam! Up the butt!
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