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Old 09-16-2020, 03:00 AM   #276
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Great looking overall, but I don't know, there is something weird.
The front are has all those chiseled lines and the back is all smooth.

At first it felt bland, but it's starting to grow o n me.
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:45 AM   #277
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TT V6, manual standard, real e brake, nice simple cabin without a ghey Ipad in the center stack. Oh my, the mods available for TT V6. I’m definitely interested, big time. My Japanese built Nissan has been flawless. With that motor, Man I am interested. Will have lots of capability aftermarket. Catted down pipe(s), exhaust, CAI and tune. Brand new I bet it’s cheaper than the M2C’s I’m lusting over with a crank hub fault you have to spend 3k to fix, just to mod. Best Japanese sports car I’ve seen in many years. The C&D article is already pointing to driver engagement and connection over stupid stat numbers for magazines and you-boobers, and ring times, etc. I want to hear rear diff information, e-diff, or mechanical. Existing engine and some parts means costs can be curtailed. If this is 40k, they have Poopra’s number with the manual trans standard. I’m definitely interested. Could be my next car. I love the throwback inspired looks. Can’t be happy with every little thing. I’m liking what I’m seeing, powerplant and cabin, I’m 100% with. Stokage. Coupe means I can insure cheap.
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Old 09-16-2020, 03:53 AM   #278
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The grille is literally just a rectangle opening. Is that the best they could do?
Cooling man. Big ass FMIC to cool the TT V6. Sure will be less expensive to clearbra.
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Old 09-16-2020, 06:31 AM   #279
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If you buy a brown one, you can name it Docomo-kun.

Side profile looks okay, kind of reminds me of a Maxima though, other angles are meh.
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Old 09-16-2020, 07:05 AM   #280
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If you buy a brown one, you can name it Docomo-kun.

Side profile looks okay, kind of reminds me of a Maxima though, other angles are meh.




You mean Domo-kun?
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Old 09-16-2020, 07:08 AM   #281
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Pending curb weight I'm into it. Not a huge fan of the front end but it's got all the good bits I crave on the inside (three pedals, mechanical handbrake, physical controls, HVAC separated from the HU). TTV6 should be fun as well.
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Old 09-16-2020, 07:12 AM   #282
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You mean Domo-kun?
Pretty sure that's what he meant

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Old 09-16-2020, 07:46 AM   #283
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I like it! I think it’s a design that will definitely grow on me as I start to see them. That yellow is awesome.
This is what I came here to say...
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Old 09-16-2020, 07:47 AM   #284
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Well, I like the interior. The front looks like a catfish mouth and the rear slopes down so hard .......it looks like a dog dragging its ass along the ground and the taillights are so 80’s. I think they could have done better styling wise and that webcast was cringeworthy. They should have had Adam Corolla as the main host.


Who knows though, after seeing things for a while maybe I’ll change my opinion. Happened with the Supra , the Bronco I’m still going back and forth on
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:04 AM   #285
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I like it a lot. It looks like nothing else on the road which is a good thing. I test drove the current gen anniversary Z and came away underwhelmed. It was porky in the turns, the motor was under whelming and but most annoying of all were the interior rattles and unacceptable road noise.

Looking at the pictures my initial gripe, like most of you, is the huge rectangle opening. Some aero in the front bumper to divert air to those sweet looking 6 piston Brembos would be nice.

Would like to see high res pics of the interior.

ohh and btw I am ecstatic to see the manual trans offering.

Now we need the RX7 back in the pic.
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:20 AM   #286
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The father of the seventh-generation Nissan Z says electrified and higher-output versions of the new sports coupe will be forthcoming if there’s sufficient demand from customers.

And it’s possible they could combine in a NISMO version of the new R35-series Z-car to rival the expected Toyota GR Supra GRMN.



Speaking to Australian media after the online global debut of the Nissan Z Proto from Yokohama this morning, Hiroshi Tamura, the Chief Product Specialist for GT-R and NISMO, would not rule out a high-performance variant of the new Z.

“This answer is why not … for me, if customers strongly request for the NISMO grade, why not?” he said. “[Right now] I cannot say yes or no, it’s not clear.”

Tamura-san was more adamant about a hybrid or pure-electric version of the new rear-drive coupe, which Nissan has confirmed will launch with a new twin-turbo V6 matched to six-speed manual and (likely seven-speed) automatic transmissions.

“We considered about for some EV solution for study only,” he said. “What kind of solution do we need to compare performance level, business case, customer voice … then we selected this single solution.

“That’s why today’s answer is twin-turbo, V6, manual. Of course AT [automatic transmission] we must also have so that is today’s conclusion.”

However, as with a NISMO version, Tamura added that electrification will come if customers demand it.

“At the beginning we have to think deeply about many solutions that come from customer voice,” he said. “Then after that if customers strongly request some kind of hybrid system we have to do that.

“Everything must be considered. For e-Power if customers strongly request it to me then why not? It depends on the customer voice.

“We are always thinking about future direction. The final goal is to make a good satisfaction for the customer, so I will follow customer voice. If you get this type of customer maybe the easy answer is you will get it.”

If Tamura can establish a business case for a more expensive performance-leader, it’s possible a new Nissan Z NISMO flagship could be powered by an electrified twin-turbo V6 powertrain, which the Japanese car-maker is already developing.

The new Nissan Z is expected to debut with a development of the relatively new twin-turbo 3.0-litre V6, which pumps out 298kW and 475Nm in the discontinued Infiniti Q60 Red Sport Coupe.

Apart from an upgraded interior, body work, suspension and brakes, the NISMO version of the compact two-seater could debut the electrified version of the VR30DDTT V6 that was developed in the Q60-based Infiniti Project Black S prototype.

The new dual-hybrid V6 powertrain, which was co-developed with Renault Sport F1 and signed off by Renault F1 driver Nico Hulkenberg at the Salzburgring circuit last year, adds a heat-energy harvesting system dubbed MGU-H (motor generator unit – heat) that Infiniti says can develop electricity under acceleration.

This is augmented by a kinetic harvesting motor generator unit (MGU-K) that scavenges energy from braking. Controlled by clever energy management, the Infiniti Black S stores and delivers extra energy when required, providing instant turbo spooling and lag-free acceleration.

It’s a given that the V6 hybrid system is highly complex and therefore expensive, but Infiniti says the solution delivers sustained and sustainable hybrid performance, lap after lap.

Peak power for the prototype rear-drive coupe is currently stated at 418kW. That’s not only a 40 per cent hike on the Infiniti Q60 Red Sport, but more than we expect from the Toyota GR Supra GRMN.

The latter will reportedly get the full-monty S58 twin-turbo 3.0-litre straight-six from the new BMW M3/M4, which will bring 375kW/600Nm – well up on the 285kW output of the upgraded MY21 Supra’s single-turbo B58 engine – and a seven-speed M DCT twin-clutch auto.

While we expect the standard Nissan Z to undercut the Supra’s $85K base price, how much the NISMO and GRMN versions would cost is anyone’s guess at this stage.

Tamura-san also said Nissan was considering a convertible version of the new Z to replace the outgoing 370Z Roadster.

“[It’s a] Good question but we are still considering,” he said. “[Whether] We are going to have an open-top or not is still a debate point.

“First of all we are going to reveal the closed body of Z.
Of course, I know open-top is also part of the Z DNA, but for now we are focusing on closed roof for the Z.”



But he indicated the new Z will share more than its inner door trims with its predecessor by riding on a development of the FM platform that dates back to the 350Z of 2002 and was recycled for the 370Z of 2008.

Asked what percentage of parts were carried over from the 370Z, Tamura said: “We didn’t check about this percentage but many parts are changed for platform, so the definition is tough.

“Already the twin-turbo V6 is different, power and torque is quite different, so how we can manage this power and torque as much as possible by some construction [changes]?

“It’s modified, so it’s already not carryover. Many things were changed or modified. Even if it looks the same it was changed.

“The door is completely different, boot, fender, bumper, wheel, headlight, tail-light – everything is different. The stance is the same, that’s why it may look unchanged.”

Tamura, who has worked for Nissan since 1984 and oversaw development of the last Z and all GT-Rs since the R34 of 1999, said development of the new Z began in March 2017.

He confirmed wouldn’t be drawn on its name, which he said was still being decided (current betting is on 400Z), nor its release timing – but he did offer this:

“I can’t say when we will release the production model. I’m sorry. Let’s say it’s not so far but not so early. If I can give you the other extra hint you have to check about GT-R Proto.”

Excluding the concept revealed by Carlos Ghosn way back in 2001, the Nissan GT-R Proto debuted at the 2005 Tokyo motor show, before the production R35 GT-R was presented at the same show in 2007.

That would make the ‘400Z’ a full two years away from showrooms, but we understand it will be available much sooner than that.

In fact, based on the speed with which the Nissan Ariya electric SUV went from concept to reality since the 2019 Tokyo show, we expect the new Z to enter production in Japan as soon as early next year.

And given the fact 1.3 million of the 1.8 million Z-cars sold worldwide since the original 1968 240Z were bought in North America, it’s likely the new Z will debut in the US – perhaps at the 2021 New York Auto Show next April, if it happens, given Nissan’s long history of revealing Z-cars in the Big Apple.

Following its US reveal and release, we expect the new Nissan Z to be available globally – including in Australia – by the end of 2021.
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:33 AM   #287
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You mean Domo-kun?
Yeah, Domo-kun.
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Old 09-16-2020, 08:37 AM   #288
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Pending curb weight I'm into it. Not a huge fan of the front end but it's got all the good bits I crave on the inside (three pedals, mechanical handbrake, physical controls, HVAC separated from the HU). TTV6 should be fun as well.
Curb weight should be similar to the 370Z seeing it's using the same chassis. I imagine the TTV6 with added intercooler, etc may be heavier so it's probably not going to be a lightweight.
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Old 09-16-2020, 09:06 AM   #289
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I do like the cable e-brake. Electric parking brake is one thing I really hate on my modern cars I don’t even use it. Like my Golf-R is parked in gear so that I can roll the car foward/back when needed in my garage.

On my Supra I park the car in “Park” so bought a set of GoJacks.
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Old 09-16-2020, 09:07 AM   #290
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People have been creating this look forever in the Z world.... in some cases it looks really good. I cannot help but see these old Z's in the new one
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Old 09-16-2020, 09:16 AM   #291
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I don't know how I feel about the looks of it. Not overly impressed. Solid meh/10
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Old 09-16-2020, 09:31 AM   #292
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At this point, idk what people even want out of Japanese sportscars. There's already so much bitching about this thing and the way it looks. I don't get it. They got way closer to the s30z than I thought possible and it looks really clean imo
100% This dude.

Everyone bitching about the grille, but it is literally EXACTLY like the 240z grille was. This thing is fantastic.
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The grille is literally just a rectangle opening. Is that the best they could do?

The side profile looks good, but the front needs work.
You ever looked at a 240z grille before?
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Old 09-16-2020, 09:32 AM   #294
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The gaping rectangular grille is the worst part, but otherwise I really enjoy the design that pays homage to past models.
You ever seen a 240z grille?
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Old 09-16-2020, 09:43 AM   #295
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At first I was critical of the rather bland and very rectangular grill, until I realized it is an almost duplicate of the original bumper delete one from the 69 Fairlady.

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You ever seen a 240z grille?
Without a bumper? Not until the pic that was just posted next to my post. Still ugly.
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Curb weight should be similar to the 370Z seeing it's using the same chassis. I imagine the TTV6 with added intercooler, etc may be heavier so it's probably not going to be a lightweight.
I really like it overall. If they price it properly (current 370Z base is $30k, can't imagine significant more than $35k for Z35) it will make the Supra look absurd. I wouldn't be surprised to see a lower priced I-6 Manual Supra appear post Z35.

Main concern I'd have with new Z is if it will be somehow both numb and twitchy like before. The 350 and 370 never drove like you'd expect them to, always felt too heavy. Prone to surprise traction loss, something that could be made worse with the turbos. I haven't driven Supra but supposedly it's nice and progressive feel, so if Nissan can get that characteristic into the old FM chassis they're apparently reusing in some form, it will be a solid win.
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100% This dude.

Everyone bitching about the grille, but it is literally EXACTLY like the 240z grille was. This thing is fantastic.
Exactly like it was... except for the lack of a bumper running right across it to visually break it up? Yeah. That’s different.

Even so, when you see this detail up close


It looks nice.

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Old 09-16-2020, 10:50 AM   #299
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Wow, to me this is the most compelling new 2 seater i've seen come out in recent memory. I love the standard transmission and manual e-brake coupled with an updated interior. Assuming the car can handle decently this is definitely on my list once its been out a year or two (or a high performance model comes out). Should be a bit smaller then the c7 (my current "want" car) and be reasonably priced for what you get.

My first car was a '79 280ZX though so i'm a bit biased . Come on Nissan don't mess it up!!
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Wow, to me this is the most compelling new 2 seater i've seen come out in recent memory. I love the standard transmission and manual e-brake coupled with an updated interior. Assuming the car can handle decently this is definitely on my list once its been out a year or two (or a high performance model comes out). Should be a bit smaller then the c7 (my current "want" car) and be reasonably priced for what you get.

My first car was a '79 280ZX though so i'm a bit biased . Come on Nissan don't mess it up!!
minus the hybrid version, it's appears to be a redsport engine in a reskinned 370z chassis; so nothing particularly new, although I believe the Q50/60 redsport was NOT available with a manual.
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