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Old 06-17-2020, 07:53 PM   #1
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GR Supra A91 Edition
Style that's exclusively GR Supra. Limited to just 500 units in Nocturnal and 500 units in Refraction, A91 Edition takes a 3.0 and adds forged 19-inch matte-black wheels, satin-black graphics, carbon-fiber mirror caps and a unique satin-black-painted carbon-fiber rear lip spoiler. Inside, interior surfaces are trimmed in Black leather, Black and Blue Alcantaraģ and blue contrast stitching.




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Inspired by GR Supra's racing heritage, GR Supra 2.0 features an all-new turbocharged 4-cylinder engine rated at 255 horsepower and 295 lb.-ft. of torque. Its compact length allows it to sit far back in the engine compartment, helping GR Supra 2.0 achieve a perfect 50/50 front/rear weight distribution.


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The 2020 Toyota GR Supra brought the revered model back in a blaze of speed, with acceleration and handling performance that outshone even its illustrious A80 predecessor. For 2021, Toyota is keeping the pedal down, boosting output of the Supra’s turbocharged 3.0-liter inline-six from 335 hp at 5,000-6,500 rpm to 382 hp at 5,800-6,500 rpm, a 14-percent increase. Torque rises from 365 lb.-ft. at 1,600-4,500 rpm to 368 lb.-ft. at 1,800-5,000 rpm.

The increased output results from a slew of upgrades throughout the engine. The new dual-branch exhaust manifold, with six ports instead of two, improves heat management. A new piston design reduces the engine’s compression ratio from 11:1 to 10.2:1.

The greatly revised engine produces higher torque at higher rpm and retains the eagerness to rev with turbine-like smoothness. Toyota projects that the new engine will reduce the Supra 3.0 model’s 0-60 acceleration time to 3.9 seconds, from 4.1. The 8-speed automatic transmission with paddle shifters carries over for 2021.

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2021 Toyota GR Supra 2.0 and 3.0 pricing goes official:The four-cylinder is $8,000 cheaper than the inline-six


Jun 17th 2020 at 8:01AM

We’ve driven the updated 2021 Toyota Supras already, and now we know the prices for the more powerful inline-six and the new four-cylinder. The inline-six price increases by a smidge, up to $51,945, including the $955 destination charge. That’s a $1,000 increase to the base model, but the Supra 3.0 Premium only increases by $500, up to $54,490. Toyota gave the 3.0 more power this year, re-tuned the suspension and added bracing, so you are getting a bit more for your dollar in 2021.

If you want the Supra 2.0, it’ll be $43,945. That makes the price spread between the base 3.0 and 2.0 exactly $8,000. That’s about what we predicted. We were hoping for a base price closer to the $40,000 mark, but the Supra 2.0 is still a superb sports car for $43,945. If you want the Safety and Technology package available for the 2.0, it’ll be an extra $3,485. It includes a ton of equipment: adaptive cruise control, blind-spot monitoring, rear cross traffic alert, parking sensors, the JBL audio system, Apple CarPlay and Supra Connected Services. The same package, minus some equipment, costs $3,155 on the base 3.0, while it comes as standard equipment on the 3.0 Premium. If you’ve already chosen the 3.0 Premium, a Driver Assist Package for $1,195 is also available.

The last new model we have pricing on is the A91 Edition Supra. That limited-edition car will cost $56,945 and be the most expensive Supra money can buy — it’s only available with the 3.0-liter turbo inline-six. It’s even more expensive than the Launch Edition Supra from last year, but only by $740.

The 3.0 is expected to be hitting dealerships soon, while the 2.0 won’t hit the market till a little later this year, most likely in fall.







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Old 06-17-2020, 09:01 PM   #2
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Itís a cool looking car and I could deal with the AT, but both are about $10k more than Iíd be willing to spend.
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Old 06-17-2020, 10:12 PM   #3
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After I posted that image of the 50th GTR, I saw this Supra. Blue muh mind.
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Old 06-17-2020, 11:58 PM   #4
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I like it a lot but no manual, no sale.
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Old 06-18-2020, 12:33 AM   #5
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Agreed. A91 is hot. Could look at it all day.













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Old 06-18-2020, 02:02 AM   #6
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That blue is my fav for a sports car. I would buy another Miata ND RF in that colour in a heartbeat, but I'm not sold on this car.

It seems to me that they might bring out significant improvements yearly to boost sales. A manual is quite possible. This car with a manual would be a reasonable argument over the Corvette with the auto.

The 4-banger at $43k is a terrible idea without a manual. What an expensive poseur.
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Looks good. Love the new head/exhaust manifold
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Old 06-18-2020, 08:29 AM   #8
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I like it a lot but no manual, no sale.
This ^^^^^ and like the other guy said. 10K too much.

Give me a manual and 10K off, tell me where to sign.
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Old 06-18-2020, 11:05 AM   #9
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I love that people forget the STI is so expensive at this point and think the Supra should be cheaper.
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43 grand and 255 hp
now explain how a second gen GT86 will be more powerful than the first gen
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now explain how a second gen GT86 will be more powerful than the first gen
Because the GT86 won't be a rebadged BMW, it will be a rebadged Subaru.

If you can't see the difference between the two brands pricing structures by now, then spend a few minutes on their respective websites and spec out a couple run of the mill models; don't worry we'll still be here when you get back.
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Old 06-18-2020, 12:22 PM   #12
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Not sure how I feel about the black stripe.

I like the effect it gives, but I donít like the stripe itself.
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Old 06-18-2020, 12:25 PM   #13
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Not sure how I feel about the black stripe.

I like the effect it gives, but I donít like the stripe itself.
I forgive it because the blue and the other black accents. But same at first sight.
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This ^^^^^ and like the other guy said. 10K too much.

Give me a manual and 10K off, tell me where to sign.

I think the price is fair at 45-47k with the inline 6 and a manual. The car is hot, the thing has solid power, handling, etc. Just needs a manual and a little bit of a price drop.
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The 4-banger at $43k is a terrible idea without a manual. What an expensive poseur.
Agreed, $35K would be more palatable IMO, although it doesn't help that the price of the 86 twins has risen so much over the years, so $35K might be to close in terms of pricing. I think they originally came out at what, $23 or $24K? Now they are over $30K in top trim and the base starts around $27K.

People will gladly pay $43K for a 4-banger if it's a luxury car i.e. BMW or MB. Sadly although the Supra is almost all BMW (including the interior!), the badge doesn't have the same pedigree to make it worth $43K to most people because let's be real - when someone buys a 430i for $43K (which btw has less power than the Supra 2.0), they're only doing it for the badge and to show off to their pleb friends
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This ^^^^^ and like the other guy said. 10K too much.

Give me a manual and 10K off, tell me where to sign.
you guys must be americans, lol
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Agreed, $35K would be more palatable IMO, although it doesn't help that the price of the 86 twins has risen so much over the years, so $35K might be to close in terms of pricing. I think they originally came out at what, $23 or $24K? Now they are over $30K in top trim and the base starts around $27K.

People will gladly pay $43K for a 4-banger if it's a luxury car i.e. BMW or MB. Sadly although the Supra is almost all BMW (including the interior!), the badge doesn't have the same pedigree to make it worth $43K to most people because let's be real - when someone buys a 430i for $43K (which btw has less power than the Supra 2.0), they're only doing it for the badge and to show off to their pleb friends
$35k? You have to be joking me? $45k$-50k loaded is more than fair for this car. If the badging disappoints you, spend the extra $20k on a M2C.

Iím not a fan of the Supra but it certainly warrants a $45k price tag.
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For reference the BMW Z4 2.0 is $49,700 & a 1993 non-turbo Supra was $33,900.

Pricing seems on par for the 2.0. The cheap 4 banger with 3 pedals is the 86.
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Sucks you can't drive with the windows down. Stupid design flaw. Otherwise a nice car. Love that Refraction A91 edition. Normally I do not dig stripes but I actually don't hate it on this car.

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Love that color.
The Supra might by my replacement car for the STI, now that I dont need to daily it anymore.
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tfw reading this thread and people don't realize how expensive cars have gotten
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I mean I guess it depends on how you view the 2.0 Supra. I can't imagine that people would buy it for any type of prestige despite being mostly BMW, since there's no luxury badge. I'm talking about "regular people" here. And as an enthusiast I would do whatever I could to get the 3.0 if the price difference is only $7K.

Looking at it as an enthusiast, the Mustang is $35K for the 5.0 and the 370Z is around $30K for 330ish HP and what most would call good handling/a "driver oriented" car, despite being suuuuuuper long in the tooth. These are just the 2-door RWD options too, not even considering other cars worth looking at in this price point i.e. Stinger GT, G70, etc. Are the dynamics/features/tech in the Supra 2.0 worth an extra $10K and losing quite a bit of power? Again, it depends who you ask, but I would imagine it's a hard sell for enthusiasts (based on the alternative options) and for regular folks alike (yes Z4 2.0 and other BMW 2.0s are more expensive, but it has a BMW badge which regular people will gladly pay for over a Toyota badge).

I know it is probably physically impossible for them to price it at $35K given the costs of manufacturing/R&D/etc. which is BMW through and through, I'm just saying that I don't feel the 2.0 is a good value proposition at its price point given the competition and the optics. I feel they should have just kept it exclusively 3.0, OR offer 3 pedals in the 2.0 to really sway over the enthusiast crowd.

On a related note, the HP numbers of the 2.0 Supra has really killed my hope for the new 86/BRZ receiving any substantial bump in power. I would be surprised if we get more than 15-20 more HP than the outgoing model.
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Inflation is a bitch.

I have an aversion to german car maintenance so the Zupra is out for me but I don't think the price is unreasonable (assuming they bring the 3rd pedal).
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Ha ha ha no kidding. I'm getting a good laugh at the people here saying a BMW coupe on a dedicated RWD platform should be stickering at or below the price of a Civic Type R or STI which are both based on $20k compact platforms. iDrive alone is worth $1000 over the below par infotainment systems in a Civic or Impreza or even any Lexus vehicle. The ZF8 is a premium transmission that you won't find in any other car of this price. The Supra's a good value. Deal with it.

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Going to correct my post as I speed read and didn’t catch it was the 2.0 model. Yeah, I’d say $35k base and $40k max loaded is where it should be. Maybe I could see a max price of $42k loaded.
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