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Old 01-06-2016, 09:14 AM   #26
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Ive used the blue perma-torque head gaskets quite a few times now on 2.5 boosted engines. One set was on a Rally America 04 sti engine. No issues with any of them... Ive personally run a bit over 30psi with them torqued with arp2000 studs. No issues so far for a few years now.
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Ive used the blue perma-torque head gaskets quite a few times now on 2.5 boosted engines. One set was on a Rally America 04 sti engine. No issues with any of them... Ive personally run a bit over 30psi with them torqued with arp2000 studs. No issues so far for a few years now.
That is pretty good news to hear. Always used them on N/A applications but since the CAD dollar has crashed so hard I can get these head gaskets for basically half the price of OEM from Rock auto.
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Old 01-07-2016, 03:51 PM   #28
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I used them on my build as well, and I'll be using them again (had to remove heads for some more work after having issues with cams).
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Old 01-08-2016, 12:54 PM   #29
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That is pretty good news to hear. Always used them on N/A applications but since the CAD dollar has crashed so hard I can get these head gaskets for basically half the price of OEM from Rock auto.
I checked rock auto and all I could find were victor rienz head gaskets.

Do you mean oem n/a head gaskets ?

I'm thinking about going the felpro route also. I found a head gasket, valve cover , intake manifold and cam seal set for like 120$
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I checked rock auto and all I could find were victor rienz head gaskets.

Do you mean oem n/a head gaskets ?

I'm thinking about going the felpro route also. I found a head gasket, valve cover , intake manifold and cam seal set for like 120$
This is the set I am going to buy. Comes with everything for the top end. Basically is a top end gasket set from the head gaskets up.

HS26531PT1 - Set part number

26531 PT - Gasket part number

https://www.rockauto.com/catalog/mor...nid=432&jpid=4




Here's a breakdown of all the parts in that kit.
2- 26531 PT Head Gasket
1- 35524 Thermostat Seal
2- 46140 Camshaft Seal
2- 46150 Camshaft Seal
4- 50560 Valve Cover
1- 50620 Valve Cover
1- 50621 Valve Cover
1- 61673 Turbo Flange Inlet Gasket
4- 71260 Valve Cover Grommets
4- 72349 Fuel Injection O-Ring
4- 72418 Camshaft Circular Plug
1- 94262 Turbo Outlet Gasket
2- 94829 Water Supply Tube O-Ring
2- 95088 Exhaust Manifold Gasket
16- 95152 Valve Stem Seal
4- 96480 Turbo Oil Supply Seal
2- 96523 Intake Manifold Lower Gasket
4- 96895 Fuel Injection O-Ring
4- 97165 Intake Manifold Upper Gasket

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Old 01-08-2016, 01:12 PM   #31
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thanks. Are you guys still using oem rear main seals or six star? Or are you using seals from rock auto also ? I have had to pull my fresh (50mi) rebuild apart and planned on re using the block o rings but that's it
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I've used rockauto seals and oem. All worked for me. Most important things for me are quality headgaskets and bearings. Most of the rockauto stuff works really well. I avoid DNJ though because of a bad experience with an N/A subaru.

Victor Rienz is pretty good stuff according to my mechanic friend as well. I used their headgaskets on a 2.0L turbo and they were identical to oem down to the fuji stamp on them. So they were probably repackaged oem.
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Old 01-24-2016, 11:42 PM   #33
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I ordered the felpro kit from rock auto. Came with felpro valve stem seals. I had a valve on one head that needed the seat re cut and lapped 50 miles after a I paid someone else to do the heads . Figured I would completely clean the head and change the valve seals. I noticed the felpro valve seals are all the same color, are the oem better than the felpro ? I'm having a hell of a time getting these seals on. Good thing only one head needs 8 of them. Thanks
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I ordered the felpro kit from rock auto. Came with felpro valve stem seals. I had a valve on one head that needed the seat re cut and lapped 50 miles after a I paid someone else to do the heads . Figured I would completely clean the head and change the valve seals. I noticed the felpro valve seals are all the same color, are the oem better than the felpro ? I'm having a hell of a time getting these seals on. Good thing only one head needs 8 of them. Thanks

Check this out:
http://www.felpro-only.com/blog/valve-stem-seals_/

"The valve stem seals in this set utilize a premium FKM material and are designed to function properly on both the intake and exhaust valves and replace both the OE intake and OE exhaust valve stem seals."

The Fel-Pro seals are likely manufactured from a material that meets/exceeds the OE spec on the exhaust valve stem seals and exceeds the OE spec on the intake valve stem seals. You can post on their forum as well, they're pretty quick with answers on material questions and you don't have to register to post.
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Old 01-25-2016, 12:27 AM   #35
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Thanks. I just tried installing an oem exh seal and it popped right on, so then I tried another felpro- I can't get a "pop" from it. Thats what was causing me issues earlier. Maybe they are better but I'd rather know for sure that the seals are locked on.
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Old 01-29-2016, 06:57 PM   #36
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Check this out:
http://www.felpro-only.com/blog/valve-stem-seals_/

"The valve stem seals in this set utilize a premium FKM material and are designed to function properly on both the intake and exhaust valves and replace both the OE intake and OE exhaust valve stem seals."

The Fel-Pro seals are likely manufactured from a material that meets/exceeds the OE spec on the exhaust valve stem seals and exceeds the OE spec on the intake valve stem seals. You can post on their forum as well, they're pretty quick with answers on material questions and you don't have to register to post.
I'm called Fel-Pro and I confirm that, at least in the HS 26531 PT1 Gasket Set, which is for the 2008-2012 DOHC EJ255 Impreza and my 07-09 Outback XT, the intake and exhaust valve stem seals are made of [a type of] "Viton", which is a DuPont trademarked FKM/FPM.

For what is worth, the Brian Crower Valve Stem Seals are also made of Viton.

Per the same Fel-Pro valve stem seal blog page quoted above, the material they use for their valve stem seals changes depending on the application (car model/year), so give them a call if you want to know for sure for your particular model.

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Old 01-29-2016, 09:33 PM   #37
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I've heard that the FelPro Subaru gaskets are actually oem parts repacked. Happy to be proven wrong on this but was through a reliable source.
I have read that victor reinz is the OEM supplier or one of them. I don't believe Fel Pro is.
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I've heard that the FelPro Subaru gaskets are actually oem parts repacked. Happy to be proven wrong on this but was through a reliable source.
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I have read that victor reinz is the OEM supplier or one of them. I don't believe Fel Pro is.
tuspace, you are not entirely wrong. Your reliable source remembers when some Fel-Pro gasket sets included head gaskets stamped with a FHI logo. I *think* Fel-Pro was just reselling them in some of their kits, not actually making them.

Currently though, at least for 2006-2009 Impreza EJ25 (Fel-Pro #HS-26531-PT) and 2008-2012 Impreza EJ25 (#HS-26531-PT1), the Fel-Pro head gaskets are different from OEM.
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tuspace, you are not entirely wrong. Your reliable source remembers when some Fel-Pro gasket sets included head gaskets stamped with a FHI logo. I *think* Fel-Pro was just reselling them in some of their kits, not actually making them.

Currently though, at least for 2006-2009 Impreza EJ25 (Fel-Pro #HS-26531-PT) and 2008-2012 Impreza EJ25 (#HS-26531-PT1), the Fel-Pro head gaskets are different from OEM.
The gaskets in Fel-Pro sets were sourced at one point, but have not been since Fel-Pro began manufacturing their own gasket. All gasket manufacturers source parts from other suppliers from time to time.
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How are these head gaskets holding up ?
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20k miles on my old car just fine- stage 2 2014
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Mine are doing just fine on my car. Also do just fine on all the N/A ones I've rebuilt.
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i beat the piss out of felpro with no issues. Lost two blocks in the past to knock and gaskets were fine with stock bolts. Current motor pushing 30psi on thicker felpros no issues. ARP2000's
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i beat the piss out of felpro with no issues. Lost two blocks in the past to knock and gaskets were fine with stock bolts. Current motor pushing 30psi on thicker felpros no issues. ARP2000's
They're pretty awesome for the price honestly. Can't go wrong with them. I just hope they don't get a subaru tax when more people buy them up.

I personally just get the top end gasket kit. It is like 125-135 dollars Canadian. So like 90 freedom dollars. Comes with valve stem seals to boot. Mahle/Victor Rienz also has a kit which is literally OEM head gaskets. 110 Canadian on rock auto as well. No valve stem seals though.
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I been buying 9856PT's for my ej22/ej20 hybrid. Its the old ej22t MLS gasket. got the last set through a rockauto closeout. $34 for the set

thick and beefy

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Good news ~ I was concerned as I did a google search and the blue fel pros kept coming up as blown gaskets
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Thats cause all youll find on internet are complaints of failures
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If these are the blue ones they are laser cut very nice pieces only be careful if you have decked or surfaced heads as they are held together by rivets which can interfere when clamping your heads down.. They don't even come close to looking like OEM.
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My built wrx is running the blues, my N/A Impreza is running the blues. The 6 other N/A Imprezas I have worked on for head gasket replacements are running the blues.

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Thats cause all youll find on internet are complaints of failures

Yes I expected that, but I only searched headgasket failure ~ not Fel Pro headgasket failure

And a bunch of blue gaskets appeared
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