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Old 04-30-2018, 01:53 PM   #26
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Have you guys had a chance to test fit the G25 series of turbos with the Spoolinator kit yet?
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Old 05-01-2018, 03:21 PM   #27
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Looks like the reverse rotation option would require going rotated. There just isn't enough space to make it work well there otherwise.
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Old 05-01-2018, 04:03 PM   #28
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I actually prefer front mount vs top mount. Knowing that your engine is getting cooler intake air temps vs top mount trumps the few 100rpms of lag IMO. If you want quick spool, go spoolinator!

So the wrx manifold can decrease lag? Iíve never researched this...sounds interesting.
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Old 05-01-2018, 04:28 PM   #29
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I actually prefer front mount vs top mount. Knowing that your engine is getting cooler intake air temps vs top mount trumps the few 100rpms of lag IMO. If you want quick spool, go spoolinator!

So the wrx manifold can decrease lag? Iíve never researched this...sounds interesting.
uhh I dont think it does, so i had a equal length and had a crack in the weld, so I put the stock manifold on and it sure didnt rev or spool faster its was very noticable
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Old 05-01-2018, 06:29 PM   #30
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uhh I dont think it does, so i had a equal length and had a crack in the weld, so I put the stock manifold on and it sure didnt rev or spool faster its was very noticable
They're talking about the intake manifold

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You thinking AMS intake manifold? I'd strongly recommend waiting on more independent testing/results on that one. From my understanding, you really see a benefit at very high power/flow numbers. Not really anywhere near where a 3067 would put you. If anything, I would consider going to the plastic WRX manifold as the smaller runner/bigger plenum would provide improved response AND better power.
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Old 05-01-2018, 09:21 PM   #31
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My set up is the KB Spoolinator with 3576r gen 2
I have a TMIC with a Cryo2 set up for wide open throttle. Had the air temp moved to the cold side of the TMIC.
WB 450 with id1300s
E85
1500 miles on the build on a break in tune..
1500 to go.

Will post graph when I get it tuned.
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Old 05-01-2018, 11:34 PM   #32
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You'll see some additional lag with a FMIC. how much is anyone's guess, but probably not a lot. FMIC will be beneficial depending on where you are on the compressor map (how hard are you pushing the turbo).
I'll be pushing what my GS TMIC is capable of for street and lapping capabilities in 85F+ weather at that point or shortly after anyway so the added cooling ability of a FMIC is going to be needed.

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The Tial and Garrett V-Band housings are on par performance wise (not tested, just what I've heard), but IIRC they do have difference geometry in regards to the v-band and in/out location.
That's why I said I'll either get the kit or fabricate my own depending on which direction I go. If it's the Total then the kit will do just fine, if it's the Garrett then I'll have to fab up my own.

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You thinking AMS intake manifold? I'd strongly recommend waiting on more independent testing/results on that one. From my understanding, you really see a benefit at very high power/flow numbers. Not really anywhere near where a 3067 would put you. If anything, I would consider going to the plastic WRX manifold as the smaller runner/bigger plenum would provide improved response AND better power.
Power band is already from ~4500 on up and we're hoping to hold it to 8500 already. This is a no AVCS 2L revving to the moon. I'm not interested in low RPM torque. So the PW intake or the AMS (currently the one I'm looking at) is going to be the route I go. The intake and FMIC are more so early upgrades for the real upgrade after this testing which will be a G series turbo. Which will be at least the 660. If they come out with a G30 at that time I'll be going with that and it's 9000rpm or bust. This 2 stage test is really for grins to see what the actual real life benefits of going through the cost of running an EWG setup with a Tial/Garrett housing actually gets you and to see how far a GTX3067 can be pushed on pump gas. Cause after that I'm ripping out the GTX and fabing what I need to for the G.

It'll be fun and a good test of what gets you what. I'm all for learning so it'll be insightful and I don't really see it as a waste of money as I'll be keeping everything but the turbo after it's all done. We'll see how it goes, for all I know I might just wait and just strait to the G series lol.
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:36 AM   #33
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FWIW, I switched from the stock TMIC to FMIC back when my LGT still had the stock VF40, and the lag was negligible. Now, with the GT3076, as long as I'm over 4k RPM, lag is still barely noticeable.
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:36 AM   #34
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My set up is the KB Spoolinator with 3576r gen 2
I have a TMIC with a Cryo2 set up for wide open throttle. Had the air temp moved to the cold side of the TMIC.
WB 450 with id1300s
E85
1500 miles on the build on a break in tune..
1500 to go.

Will post graph when I get it tuned.

Looking forward to your results... I thought I was done modding my LGT, but the 3576 might change my mind about that.
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:51 AM   #35
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Looking forward to seeing everyoneís results as well. I may be landing a huge bonus from work, so the garage might start filling up with more Sti goodies soon! IAG stage 3 block sitting on an engine stand waiting for my stock block to pop sounds ideal. Still want to go with the Spoolinator 3067R and max it out on e85. See how long the stock motor survives the abuse 😈 Looks like Iíll need at least 1300s and a bigger fuel pump than my wally 255.
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Old 05-02-2018, 07:20 AM   #36
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I failed to mention I went with Tomei UEL which will hurt me.
And I ran the waste gate through the exhaust.

Tune in.
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Old 05-02-2018, 07:22 AM   #37
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You may need 1700s check with KB
I may run out of fuel with my set up.
And, may run out of transmission. ;^]

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Old 05-03-2018, 04:45 AM   #38
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Tuning in for UEL headers and waste gate routing through exhaust! Is it a custom pipe setup to run it through the exhaust or does somebody make one?
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Old 05-03-2018, 05:01 PM   #39
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It was custom from Kosmic Motorsports in Houston..
And custom 3 inch mid pipe to SPT exhaust.
Don’t ask how much..
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How much Nah I'll check my shop here that does custom work like that. Custom items always vary from shop to shop.

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Old 05-08-2018, 12:01 PM   #41
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I don't know if the locations are the same but it looks like the G series turbos use the same vband flange dimensions as the tials now.
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Old 05-08-2018, 08:41 PM   #42
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It was custom from Kosmic Motorsports in Houston..
And custom 3 inch mid pipe to SPT exhaust.
Donít ask how much..

Any pics of the work? Would you mind messaging me the cost and what all they had to do? I'm considering them for building my midpipe and rear section with my own muffler but am curious if they will use something overly thick and heavy. I don't want any leaks and would prefer Vband for both sections.
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Old 05-09-2018, 03:40 AM   #43
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We pulled pricing for the 3067 because Garrett stopped making them. We can still get them through distribution though. I'm going off memory here (at home right now), but I believe that turbo is ~ $1,500, plus Tial Turbine housing. So it will be very close, if not the same, as the pricing for the kit with the 3071.

1.06 is going to be the largest A/R for the Tial housing. This is what I'd recommend for E85, C16, or for racing only applications.
1.06 is quite a large housing for a 3067. I understand that E85 will help response but I think I would move to a 3071 or 3576 before a 3067 with a 1.06. Are you aware of anyone that has done the 3067 with 1.06?
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Old 05-11-2018, 12:06 PM   #44
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My set up is the KB Spoolinator with 3576r gen 2
I have a TMIC with a Cryo2 set up for wide open throttle. Had the air temp moved to the cold side of the TMIC.
WB 450 with id1300s
E85
1500 miles on the build on a break in tune..
1500 to go.

Will post graph when I get it tuned.
Looking forward to seeing results!
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Old 05-11-2018, 12:08 PM   #45
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Hey KillerB - will a FP 84mm turbo inlet be compatible with this kit?
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Old 05-11-2018, 02:26 PM   #46
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Hey KillerB - will a FP 84mm turbo inlet be compatible with this kit?
FP 84 as in the GTX3584-R that is sold by FP?

The short answer is no. The 3584 only comes with it's own compressor housing that is larger than the 3582 (35R). So it cannot be shoehorned into that position.
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Old 05-11-2018, 05:06 PM   #47
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Paid 850.00 for the mid pipe thin gauge stainless. Not sure on gauge
Wastegate material plumbing 135.00
Mod SPT exhaust 86.25
Time to fab external gate to up pipe and recirc to down pipe add WB and EGT bungs.
1610.00
Tial MV-R Waste gate 389.66

If my wife knew I’d be FN dead.

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Told ya...
Donít ask
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Would have been cheaper with Holy headers. I had to keep the rumble and didnít want F and Furious exhaust dump
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Guah, you weren't lying! Hopefully she doesn't see this thread, lol.
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