Virginia catalytic converter laws - Page 2

ohitstarik · 10-01-2020, 01:12 PM

I think this also depends on county. For example, in fairfax we have to get emissions, in norfolk we don't.

a lot of people i know just take it through in OEM and swap the mods back in though.

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Detslider · 10-07-2020, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payback45

So are you saying that all aftermarket catted cats will fail if they put it in a lift and take a look?

I answered your question in post #3 of this thread. Why keep asking?

Payback45 · 10-18-2020, 09:50 AM

Ok......

vtwinjunkie · 11-25-2020, 09:45 AM

moving on...

I just passed emissions this year ( I was worried I might have issues) but I have a 2016 with a full turbo back exhaust.

from turbo to cats is the cobb catted J pipe with a straight pipe that connects to the mufflers and the mufflers are the nameless 4 inch with the 4 inch double wall tips.

I have been running this setup since 2016. perhaps the reason I passed was because it looks like they are not new (factory ish)....

I think this is another factor for inspectors....when they see shiny new parts its low hanging fruit for a failure.

CoronaWRX · 12-07-2020, 12:31 AM

Does anyone know if the Cobb GESi Catted DP will pass VA emissions? It's got a bunch of numbers on it, does that mean it's approved?

Detslider · 12-10-2020, 10:03 AM

Yes, that does appear to have the marking required in VA.

It's the bottom series of numbers that matter. The cat in the photo is stamped with "N/GBL/3889/1018"

Quote:

A catalytic converter so installed shall be identified with a visible, permanent, nondestructible label or stamp which will identify the manufacturer, vehicle application and month and year of manufacture. The label shall be in accordance with the following format:[/indent][/indent]

a. New converters - N/XX/YYYY/ZZZZ
b. Used converters - U/XX/YYYY/ZZZZ
N - New converter designation
U - Used converter designation
XX - Manufacturer code issued by EPA
YYYY - Numerical designation of vehicle application
ZZZZ - Month and year of manufacture (i.e. - 0188 for January, 1988)

See post #3 of this thread for full citation.

CoronaWRX · 12-13-2020, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detslider

Yes, that does appear to have the marking required in VA.

It's the bottom series of numbers that matter. The cat in the photo is stamped with "N/GBL/3889/1018"

See post #3 of this thread for full citation.

Thanks Detslider!! That's good news!

Payback45 · 12-13-2020, 07:33 PM

My new turbo back doesn’t have any of the numbers stamped on it but has all the necessary cats...will I fail inspection because I don’t have the numbers on it?

kileryoyo · 12-17-2020, 04:57 PM

Unfortunately Payback I think it will fail. The problem is with out the stamping an inspection place has no way of knowing if it a true cat or not. My old downpipe had a 200 cell spiral cat and no markings. The dealer actually put a bore camera down it to prove that it had a cat in it. At the time about 4 years ago even then they were making sure that the cats had epa stampings.

Payback45 · 12-17-2020, 04:59 PM

So, there is no way I’m replacing my entire exhaust again, what are my options?

kileryoyo · 12-19-2020, 03:40 AM

You could always add an approved high flow cat like a magnaflow into the system either down stream of your downpipe or in place of the one on your downpipe. The second option would kind of suck having to match up the correct cat length.

Payback45 · 12-19-2020, 08:36 AM

And just to be clear, they will catch all this during the emission test?

kileryoyo · 12-20-2020, 03:51 PM

Not during the emissions test so much but during the visual inspection. The problem being that if the inspector is doing their job to the tee they will know that you are modified by your exhaust noise and then much like cops that is all they need to start picking you apart. Then they will visually inspect your cat and see no marking and then its over before it starts. The problem being that VA has been cracking down on performance parts in areas that do emissions inspections. I wonder if you could just travel farther south where they don't do emissions and be fine. I have no idea on that though.

Payback45 · 12-20-2020, 03:53 PM

Ok, so I’m screwed during that inspection. What about the VA safety inspection? Am I screwed there too?

kileryoyo · 12-20-2020, 09:34 PM

Thats the one I was talking about since in the Hampton roads area that is all we have. Do you get a separate sticker for emissions?

Payback45 · 12-20-2020, 09:42 PM

No sticker for emissions. To get your tags for your plates you have to get and pass and emissions test I believe. You do get a sticker in your window for the safety inspection

kileryoyo · 12-21-2020, 02:11 AM

That sucks glad we don't have to worry about that crap down here.

sadairk2 · 01-12-2021, 03:07 PM

I have an appointment to get inspected at Japanese Auto Masters in VA Beach next Thursday. If I fail the visual for the cat, I'll likely call All Aspects to see if they can replace the cat in my TurboXS DP with a GESI cat. Cobb ETA for the GD version of their GESI catted DP is Jan/Feb according to their website.

Anyone in the VA Beach area experience this yet? Or even recommend an inspection shop that is a tad more lenient? I know inspectors are cracking down.

10-18-2020, 09:50 AM	#28
Payback45 Scooby Newbie Member#: 129370 Join Date: Oct 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Reston Vehicle: 2016 WRX	Virginia catalytic converter laws Ok...... Last edited by Payback45; 10-18-2020 at 11:45 AM.

12-07-2020, 12:31 AM	#30
CoronaWRX Scooby Newbie Member#: 431618 Join Date: Oct 2015 Chapter/Region: SWIC Location: Arizona	Does anyone know if the Cobb GESi Catted DP will pass VA emissions? It's got a bunch of numbers on it, does that mean it's approved? Last edited by CoronaWRX; 12-17-2020 at 11:50 PM.

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Payback45 Scooby Newbie Member#: 129370 Join Date: Oct 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Reston Vehicle: 2016 WRX	Virginia catalytic converter laws My new turbo back doesn’t have any of the numbers stamped on it but has all the necessary cats...will I fail inspection because I don’t have the numbers on it? Last edited by Payback45; 12-14-2020 at 04:45 PM.

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10-01-2020, 01:12 PM	#26
ohitstarik Scooby Newbie Member#: 518208 Join Date: Aug 2020	I think this also depends on county. For example, in fairfax we have to get emissions, in norfolk we don't. a lot of people i know just take it through in OEM and swap the mods back in though. * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

11-25-2020, 09:45 AM	#29
vtwinjunkie Scooby Newbie Member#: 415503 Join Date: Mar 2015 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Nova Vehicle: 2016 WRX limited black silica	moving on... I just passed emissions this year ( I was worried I might have issues) but I have a 2016 with a full turbo back exhaust. from turbo to cats is the cobb catted J pipe with a straight pipe that connects to the mufflers and the mufflers are the nameless 4 inch with the 4 inch double wall tips. I have been running this setup since 2016. perhaps the reason I passed was because it looks like they are not new (factory ish).... I think this is another factor for inspectors....when they see shiny new parts its low hanging fruit for a failure.

12-17-2020, 04:57 PM	#34
kileryoyo Scooby Newbie Member#: 160683 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: VA Beach Vehicle: 2002 wrx 2008 GT500, 13 WRB WRX	Unfortunately Payback I think it will fail. The problem is with out the stamping an inspection place has no way of knowing if it a true cat or not. My old downpipe had a 200 cell spiral cat and no markings. The dealer actually put a bore camera down it to prove that it had a cat in it. At the time about 4 years ago even then they were making sure that the cats had epa stampings.

12-17-2020, 04:59 PM	#35
Payback45 Scooby Newbie Member#: 129370 Join Date: Oct 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Reston Vehicle: 2016 WRX	So, there is no way I’m replacing my entire exhaust again, what are my options?

12-19-2020, 03:40 AM	#36
kileryoyo Scooby Newbie Member#: 160683 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: VA Beach Vehicle: 2002 wrx 2008 GT500, 13 WRB WRX	You could always add an approved high flow cat like a magnaflow into the system either down stream of your downpipe or in place of the one on your downpipe. The second option would kind of suck having to match up the correct cat length.

12-19-2020, 08:36 AM	#37
Payback45 Scooby Newbie Member#: 129370 Join Date: Oct 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Reston Vehicle: 2016 WRX	And just to be clear, they will catch all this during the emission test?

12-20-2020, 03:51 PM	#38
kileryoyo Scooby Newbie Member#: 160683 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: VA Beach Vehicle: 2002 wrx 2008 GT500, 13 WRB WRX	Not during the emissions test so much but during the visual inspection. The problem being that if the inspector is doing their job to the tee they will know that you are modified by your exhaust noise and then much like cops that is all they need to start picking you apart. Then they will visually inspect your cat and see no marking and then its over before it starts. The problem being that VA has been cracking down on performance parts in areas that do emissions inspections. I wonder if you could just travel farther south where they don't do emissions and be fine. I have no idea on that though.

12-20-2020, 03:53 PM	#39
Payback45 Scooby Newbie Member#: 129370 Join Date: Oct 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Reston Vehicle: 2016 WRX	Ok, so I’m screwed during that inspection. What about the VA safety inspection? Am I screwed there too?

12-20-2020, 09:34 PM	#40
kileryoyo Scooby Newbie Member#: 160683 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: VA Beach Vehicle: 2002 wrx 2008 GT500, 13 WRB WRX	Thats the one I was talking about since in the Hampton roads area that is all we have. Do you get a separate sticker for emissions?

12-20-2020, 09:42 PM	#41
Payback45 Scooby Newbie Member#: 129370 Join Date: Oct 2006 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Reston Vehicle: 2016 WRX	No sticker for emissions. To get your tags for your plates you have to get and pass and emissions test I believe. You do get a sticker in your window for the safety inspection

12-21-2020, 02:11 AM	#42
kileryoyo Scooby Newbie Member#: 160683 Join Date: Oct 2007 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: VA Beach Vehicle: 2002 wrx 2008 GT500, 13 WRB WRX	That sucks glad we don't have to worry about that crap down here.

01-12-2021, 03:07 PM	#43
sadairk2 Scooby Newbie Member#: 392890 Join Date: Jun 2014 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: VA Beach, VA Vehicle: 2005 STI Silver	I have an appointment to get inspected at Japanese Auto Masters in VA Beach next Thursday. If I fail the visual for the cat, I'll likely call All Aspects to see if they can replace the cat in my TurboXS DP with a GESI cat. Cobb ETA for the GD version of their GESI catted DP is Jan/Feb according to their website. Anyone in the VA Beach area experience this yet? Or even recommend an inspection shop that is a tad more lenient? I know inspectors are cracking down.