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Old 04-03-2014, 03:39 PM   #51
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I have had this clutch on my car for almost a year now...

...and I still frickin HATE it!!

Break in was terrible, and the car smelled like the worst version of a burning clutch smell that you can imagine with even the slightest amount of slipping. It also chattered like crazy.

So, you try to slip it less to minimize the nasty smell - bad idea. The clutch actually felt a little lighter than the stock one, but it grips much harder, so less slip given the same power results in pretty harsh starts that made me feel like I hadn't been driving stick shifts for the last fifteen years.

Eventually, I've learned to find the delicate balance which results in a smooth launch for daily driving, but if I'm not paying attention, it's still easy to have an unintentionally choppy start. Irritating, considering I've driven a lot of cars with higher capacity clutches than mine which didn't exhibit this trait.

I bought the clutch because, immediately after something around "stage 2," my stock clutch was useless. I do have to say that it never showed any signs of slipping or inability to hold power.

One big end rod bearing and a turbo later, my engine is stock again with the same clutch, and I'm still regretting my purchase.

I'm actually looking forward to this thing wearing out eventually so I can try something else. Anything else.
Tuner said they'd had issues with those as well, going to go with the ACT instead.
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Old 04-03-2014, 06:12 PM   #52
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Iv had this clutch for over 5k and no issues yet took a wile to brake in an smell to go away but now it's not bad and for noise!! Well I don't notice cuz my car is loud an I got bad hearing anyways but I recommend the clutch iv launched the car a few times but mostly use the car for dd Also my car is at 325hp/323tq.
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Old 04-05-2014, 05:50 AM   #53
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After break in, I have had 0 issues.
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Old 05-22-2014, 04:30 PM   #54
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I have had the CC Stg 2 for 1 day, about 100 miles. Got it because it was recommended to me by my tuner. I have a 2009 WRX, Stage 2 with pro tune 272whp/311twq.

I stalled the car 4 times in their parking lot. I have owned the car for 2 years and only stalled twice. I have since stalled it about a dozen times.

I do not think the clutch pedal feels near the same. it is much stiffer. A little harder to press down but it shoots right back up like a cannon. Clutch play is very minimal. 1st gear is tough. after that is it AWESOME. I think I need time to get used to it but agree "azun". You need to give 1st gear starts 110% attention not to stall or have a choppy start.

The clutch seems real easy to burn but this thread tells us that. I hope it gets better. I hope I do not need to put 100% thought into every 1st gear start the rest of this clutches life. i used to be able to blast the stereo, smoke a cig, get road h*&d while blindfolded and have a perfect 1st gear start. not any more it would seem.

I will post back when I have a few more miles on it. The good: love the way it grabs, love having to barley push it in to shift 2nd and up.
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Old 07-02-2014, 12:56 AM   #55
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Just got mine installed today. No chattering at all. I only stall her once. No smell whatsoever. Previous clutch was an exedy stage 1 HD. The clutch feel pretty much stock. I can't recommend yet.
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Old 09-05-2014, 07:52 PM   #56
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I have the CC stage 3. Lots of chatter, but it will go away. Only stinks if I rev to 3k and slip, and its really not that bad, otherwise its fine. Will report back here after break in period.
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Old 09-05-2014, 09:19 PM   #57
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I had the comp stage 2 and it slipped with 350wtq.. site rates it at 425wtq... so it's overrated, or I got a bad clutch.

Recently installed the ACT SB10-HDG6 and it feels good. Now I'll be ready for dom 3
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Old 09-05-2014, 09:47 PM   #58
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Have had CC stage 2 with their 13.5 Light weight FW for over 10k now and no issues I have done multiple launches and FFS still no issues. Noise is not bad and it engages smooth!


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Old 10-21-2014, 01:40 PM   #59
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I have the CC Stage 2 as well.. I purchased from rallysportdirect.com.

http://www.rallysportdirect.com/Comp...Kit-w-Flywheel

I installed myself and I have approx. 580 miles on the clutch right now. In the beginning, the grab was allot harder then stock. I had trouble finding a good engagement point. A stock clutch can be slipped slightly to help you take off. Well not this one. Ive noticed that if i slightly slip it to take off, then I get that famous burn smell that everyone is speaking of. Sometimes its alittle annoying because it stays in the car for a good 10 seconds and then my passengers think I dont know how to drive. Which I guess that could be partially the issue. Usually what I do now is to let off the clutch as much as possible until it starts to jerk and then I just give it a reasonable amount of gas to help me take off. The take off is still jittery, but its better than smelling that clutch all day.
I also noticed that when im driving in second and third gear and let off the gas, something sounds like it is shaking/rubbing or chattering. Its hard to explain. One of my friends said it could be the clutch receiving a driveline shock. But who knows? I open for suggestions as well as opinions on this matter. I hope that all of this goes away in the near future. Other than these issues, I still think its a great clutch and I can definitely tell it can hold some power.
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Old 10-21-2014, 01:52 PM   #60
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I have the CC Stage 2 as well.. I purchased from rallysportdirect.com.

http://www.rallysportdirect.com/Comp...Kit-w-Flywheel

I installed myself and I have approx. 580 miles on the clutch right now. In the beginning, the grab was allot harder then stock. I had trouble finding a good engagement point. A stock clutch can be slipped slightly to help you take off. Well not this one. Ive noticed that if i slightly slip it to take off, then I get that famous burn smell that everyone is speaking of. Sometimes its alittle annoying because it stays in the car for a good 10 seconds and then my passengers think I dont know how to drive. Which I guess that could be partially the issue. Usually what I do now is to let off the clutch as much as possible until it starts to jerk and then I just give it a reasonable amount of gas to help me take off. The take off is still jittery, but its better than smelling that clutch all day.
I also noticed that when im driving in second and third gear and let off the gas, something sounds like it is shaking/rubbing or chattering. Its hard to explain. One of my friends said it could be the clutch receiving a driveline shock. But who knows? I open for suggestions as well as opinions on this matter. I hope that all of this goes away in the near future. Other than these issues, I still think its a great clutch and I can definitely tell it can hold some power.
Great post. I have about 5k miles on mine now. Installed by EFI Logics in CT. I went trough all the same as you describe to a tee. At about hte 2500 mile mark the 1st gear starts went almost 100% back to OEM. If i had to rate it I would say they are back to 90%. Hang in there. I use to burn the clutch all day. It will stop eventually as you sound just like I did. As for the chatter. I still have exactally what you are describing. from my limited research it seems that this can be a normal side effect from the installation and does not hurt anything.
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Old 10-21-2014, 01:59 PM   #61
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Great post. I have about 5k miles on mine now. Installed by EFI Logics in CT. I went trough all the same as you describe to a tee. At about hte 2500 mile mark the 1st gear starts went almost 100% back to OEM. If i had to rate it I would say they are back to 90%. Hang in there. I use to burn the clutch all day. It will stop eventually as you sound just like I did. As for the chatter. I still have exactally what you are describing. from my limited research it seems that this can be a normal side effect from the installation and does not hurt anything.
Thanks man. Atleast I am not the only one experiencing these issues. It still sucks that its happening though lol. Im hoping that it all goes away eventually. I took the time to ensure that everything was installed correctly, along with torqued. I also removed the dust shield from the bottom because the new flywheel was too close for comfort for me. Let me know if anything changes for you. Thanks for your input.
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Old 10-21-2014, 02:20 PM   #62
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Iv been running this clutch for over 15k now and it does improve clutch is smooth a bit harder than stock but it's still smooth, chatter is normal with a light weight fly wheel also it's not too bad! The clutch grabs hard when I drop it on launch, I'm happy with it also it's not bad at all for DD.

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Old 11-09-2014, 01:22 AM   #63
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I'm running a stage 3 CC and Ive had Zero issues with it so far with about 300ish miles on it. It does chatter a little bit, and I think that's mostly caused by the minor difference in pedal feel. Ive been letting the pedal out too slow and that's when it ch-ch-chatters, but I haven't noticed any smells or slipping whatsoever. It grips really good on launch, but ive had a hard time finding the sweet spot on take off. Again, I think i just need to get used to the change in feel, but so far i am more than pleased with this clutch!
Im running a rotated gtx3071r w/ .63ar hotside, TiAL 44mm EWG, TiAL Q BOV, DW850cc & DW300 pump, meth inj... Still On a conservative tune, 14psi making 280whp/275wtq but well see what happens once I bump it up to 19-20psi. I should be making about 380+whp/390wtq. The clutch is rated at 450ftlbs I think which is a little bit more than what I plan to be making so I'm good to go.
I will post again after I put down 1000 miles and bump up the boost and start making bigger #'s.

(Update March 19th 2015)
I think my Clutch &/or Slave Cylinder is toast, cuz after i drive for about 10-15 minutes, the clutch doesnt engage at all. Then i let it cool down & everything is back to normal for a minute before it happens again.
(Update March 21st 2015)
I wrapped the downpipe & put a blanket on the housing, installed a Chase Bays SS Braided Hard Line Delete from Cylinder to Cylinder, and am now using Motul RBF600 this time. Everything is back to normal... Other than that im still breaking the clutch in.

(Update November 13th 2017)
It's been awhile since I last updated this, I actually sold my car about 6 months ago, but I still want to give my comments on the clutch.
The clutch started to work great. I put another 4k on it before I did a major rebuild. Fully built ej257 w/ JDM 207 RA Heads & 272 Cams. Upgraded my fuel system, ditched the Meth inj & went straight to Ethanol! And finally tuned my car properly this time around. I was making 401whp & 398wtq on a Mustang Dyno. The clutch seemed to handle the power just fine, but one day after putting about 3k more miles(10k miles total)I was driving down the road around 40 in 4th(RA gearing) & decided to drop it into 3rd & get on it, well as soon as I hit about 7k rpms the needle spiked really quick, but I didn't think nothing of it. A week later I'm coming home from snowboarding at night & was passing someone in 5th gear & as soon as boost hit about 10psi RPM's hit Redline. This time I took note of it, & tested it out a few more times, & sure enough, the clutch was slipping in higher gears when you get into boost. Still drivable, but was frustrating as hell. It slipped more & more as time went by, & just so happens that when I put it up for sale it started getting worse. Slipping in 3rd when it hit boost & u didn't even have to be in boost for it to slip in the higher gears.
The clutch is rated for 450ft/lbs of TQ, yet I wasnt barely making 400wtq.
I think they might rate their clutches @ the crank, & not to the wheels. So I wouldn't recommend this clutch to anyone making over 380wtq.
The best way to go if you want to make more than 400/400 is the Exedy Twin Disk HD type . Exedy twin disk kits are rated At The Wheels not to mention their disks are far superior to most other companies. The HD & HR disks usually have the highest TQ rating, but all the disks for the twin disk kits can hold a minimum of 500wtq.
I have one on my Evo 8 and it has been a pretty damn good clutch.

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Old 05-18-2015, 10:28 PM   #64
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Hey, i have a 2013 wrx and im still gathering information on modifications. I just replaced my OEM clutch, with the stage 2 Competition Clutch. Im having issues on first gear, it seems to shake really heavy when applying minimal throttle at a stop light. it seems like i can no longer start at 1500 rpm. i now have to rev it at about 2000-2200 rpm for the car no to shake as if it wants to stall. I dont know if its because it is a new clutch? or something else.
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Hey, i have a 2013 wrx and im still gathering information on modifications. I just replaced my OEM clutch, with the stage 2 Competition Clutch. Im having issues on first gear, it seems to shake really heavy when applying minimal throttle at a stop light. it seems like i can no longer start at 1500 rpm. i now have to rev it at about 2000-2200 rpm for the car no to shake as if it wants to stall. I dont know if its because it is a new clutch? or something else.


First it's a new clutch so it needs a brake in, also it's clamp load is much more than stock so it will require a bit more throttle response, iv had it for over 30k and if I try to drive off in 1st gear it will want to stall out haha, so just give her a bit more gas and you will be fine
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First it's a new clutch so it needs a brake in, also it's clamp load is much more than stock so it will require a bit more throttle response, iv had it for over 30k and if I try to drive off in 1st gear it will want to stall out haha, so just give her a bit more gas and you will be fine
Perfect, thanks for the response. yeah when i first drove it i was like uhhhh. but now i know that it just takes a little more throttle to get it going.
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Old 06-22-2015, 03:49 AM   #67
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I just had this clutch kit installed yesterday along with the lightweight flywheel by the good folks over at Cobb SoCal. So far, so good. I notice it takes a good amount more throttle to get off in 1st gear, but I attribute most of this to the new flywheel, which requires more revolutions to get the momentum required to engage the clutch. I do get some burn smell if I either rev too high or rev too much in 1st. But if I get it to just about 2,000rpm, the takeoff is pretty smooth. I've only put about 50 stop & go miles on it since install, so I'll provide another update after I get through the break-in period. Other than that, good grab and good acceleration with the lighter flywheel!
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Old 09-12-2015, 04:09 PM   #68
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I have had this clutch for about a year (8,000 miles) now and I hate it. It is starting to slip when I give it a good push! I babied it for the first 1500 miles (not even going above 3500 rpm) It was very harsh and sensitive at first, which was to be expected. This smoothed out fairly well after about 2,000 miles. It stills stinks badly when going in reverse or starting on hills. It shakes my whole car if i don't give enough gas or burns if i give it a little too much. I've only launched it twice and i never race. Just spirited driving. The chatter is unbearable and doesn't get better at all. I don't know if it somehow got glazed over during the break in period or what but it is clearly going out and i will have to replace it within the next month. DO NOT BUY! I think im just gonna go back to exedy oem replacement with stock flywheel since i don't plan on my car ever being over 325 hp. its my daily driver and I live in nashville so i deal with heavy traffic often.
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So its been 2 years and 10 months, and 40K+ miles since I installed this clutch. My car has been pretty the same since then and I still drive it aggressively, clutch dumps and all and still no complaints what so ever. This car is my DD and I HIGHLY would recommend to anyone who wants something more aggressive then stock without going with a unsprung clutch.

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Old 04-26-2016, 05:25 PM   #70
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got 150 miles on mine, everything is fine besides when I let off the throttle that chatter is intense. , I like how the new clutch engages, just gotta bring the rpm up a little higher than before and let out all the way. you will find your sweet spot for you.
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Hey guys, sorry I'm strolling in late to this thread, but was wondering If anyone could give me some advice. I bought an 02 wrx that has an exedy stage 2 competition clutch (18k on it) and a GFB lightened underdrive pulley. I'm new to the forum, sorry if I put this in the wrong place. I'm reading a cylinder 4 misfire, every 20-30 miles or so (I delete the code and it comes back). It has a GFB lightened under drive pulley, could that be causing something? My next guess it could be from stalling because it has an exedy stage 2 clutch and when i was first learning it i stalled it quite a bit, but everything is fine now. My third and final guess it could be the fuel pump or fuel filter, because for some reason when i turn the car off the fuel gauge still rads fuel...but I don't know how or why that would be related to a cylinder four misfire, but I'm just putting it out there, any advice/help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

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Old 05-13-2016, 02:03 PM   #72
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dragging up an old thread, but I just replaced my CC stage 2 with a south bend clutch. MY competition clutch started slipping in under 12-13k miles, less than a year. the pedal was super stiff, but not unmanageable. one issue I had was that the engagement point was 1/4 from the top of the pedal travel. if I as much as rested my foot on the pedal, it could disengage the clutch. the drivability was inconsistent as well. some days it engaged smoothly, others, it would buck and chatter. I talked to the shop that just installed my new clutch, they told me that most of the CC kits they installed in the last year or so had to be replaced due to the clutches failing. when I looked at the flywheel and pressure plate, they were badly toasted, hot spots all over. by comparison, my stock clutch, which didn't slip until I started upping power at 125k, only had a couple small hot spots on the flywheel and pressure plate.
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I'm on a completely different boat than you guys it seems...

I'm loving this clutch. No chatter, no clutch smell, this was since it was installed. Absolutely nothing of what you guys mention of. Clutch engages smoothly at 1200rpms too.
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So I just purchased this clutch kit from rally sport direct for $750..I am at 301 ft lbs at the wheels on a mustang dyno but I am swapping a new FP 20g turbo in with 850cc injectors and DW 65C fuel pump, plus probably a turbo inlet hose too(in case you guys cared lol) but wanted to replace the worn clutch I have now before I upgrade the turbo and add more power. But yeah I will report back my experience when the clutch goes in and I break in etc. Does $900 sound like a lot to install though? My local specialists said $900ish...lol ish
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So I just purchased this clutch kit from rally sport direct for $750..I am at 301 ft lbs at the wheels on a mustang dyno but I am swapping a new FP 20g turbo in with 850cc injectors and DW 65C fuel pump, plus probably a turbo inlet hose too(in case you guys cared lol) but wanted to replace the worn clutch I have now before I upgrade the turbo and add more power. But yeah I will report back my experience when the clutch goes in and I break in etc. Does $900 sound like a lot to install though? My local specialists said $900ish...lol ish
If they're including the price of the clutch yes, dealer charged me $500 so if it's just labor that's pretty ****ing ridiculous for a 4-5hr job.
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