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Old 07-24-2003, 08:35 PM   #1
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Basically I have about $1k to spend on the audio for the sti. I have decided to either go very cheap and upgrade in the future(just so that I have the system together sooner) or go with the mb quart qsd 213 or 216 and a zapco 2 channel amp and be done with it. If I wanna add rear fill in the future I can run it off my hu or a sub I can add it in the future. Btw I have a alpine 7894 from my old car so I won't need an hu. So what should I do???

Another choice would be to go with a compromise between those two choices and go with the mb quart p line components for the frt and use the pce 210 as cozxials for the rear fill. Then a zapco or alpine 4 channel amp to power those speakers. One confusing thing tho is the premium line can be used as components or coaxials now rite?? So how's this work out in terms of sound??

option 1
go with cheapy gear and spend about $300 for frt components and rear coaxials powered with hu

option 2
go high end on frt components and amp and leave rest for upgrade later

option 3
compromise between option 1 & 2

Also need help with selecting the rite amp for the job. basically the 2 ohm and 4 ohm crap just confuses the hell outta me. So ne suggestion would be greatly appreciated. Also if I go external
amp I will have to run all new speaker wire from the amp and discard all the factory wiring correct?? I'm a newb at this car audio stuff so ne help would be great.

Thanks in advance

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Old 07-24-2003, 11:29 PM   #2
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Well, myself I decided to go with all Alpine electronics, and Boston Acoustics speakers.

I've got a single Comp Series 10" sub for the trunk , 6.5" component speakers for the front, and I'm hunting for a way to get 5..25" coaxes to fit in the rear doors (I have cutting sheet metal, and I'll miss having the rear fill - I'm picky that way).

The HU fits just fine in the bottom DIN slot, andI'll be mounting the amps in the trunk on either side of the sub box.

If you don't need to spend money on an HU, then I'd say get a good Alpine 4-ch amp if you plan on adding rear door speakers at some point. If not, get an Alpine 2-ch. MB Quarts are great speakers, and I'd have used them myself if I hadn't gotten such a good deal on the Bostons. Sub-wise, Rockford Fosgate, Boston Acoustics, and JL Audio have always been my preferences. Personal taste.

Unless you like pounding bass, I'd say put a good-quality, single sub in the trunk and give it a lot of good, clean wattage. A single 10" or 12" can sound great if it's a good sub and it runs off of a good amp.

A few thoughts, anyway, FWIW.
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Old 07-25-2003, 08:28 AM   #3
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zenboy - 5.25's will probably fit in the rear door. There's a lot of room back there. if you make a .25 inch mounting ring, and rear mount the 5.25's to the mounting ring, you can probably make it work pretty easy, as long as your tweeter doesn't protrude past the edge of the woofer.

wewu - what kind of music do you listen to? do you want to use your existing head unit? Do you want a sub?
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Old 07-25-2003, 04:16 PM   #4
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hee hee... go ebay.

i did. i needed late 1990s technology. current sony stuff is crap. i wanted old school MOBILE ES stuff

head: xr-c900 - refurb $125
dig proc: xdp-210 - "new" $150
cd changer: cdx-91 - used $75

back around 1996, that whole set woulda cost around $1800

amp: soundstream 604 - found a dude on ebay repairing them - $225

this amp woulda cost over $500

speakers - reuse a set of mb quarts 218s circa 1994
sub - have a removable box to go from my truck to STi and back. an old JL audio sub.

of course i did the labor so that saved $$$. so for $1000, you get some good ol' stuff...
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Old 07-25-2003, 05:31 PM   #5
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zenboy - 5.25's will probably fit in the rear door. There's a lot of room back there. if you make a .25 inch mounting ring, and rear mount the 5.25's to the mounting ring, you can probably make it work pretty easy, as long as your tweeter doesn't protrude past the edge of the woofer.

wewu - what kind of music do you listen to? do you want to use your existing head unit? Do you want a sub?

What 5.25" speakers do you know of that will fit in the door without cutting sheet metal, using a 1/4"spacer?
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Old 07-25-2003, 10:51 PM   #6
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wewu - what kind of music do you listen to? do you want to use your existing head unit? Do you want a sub?
I mostly listen to techno and some rap. Yes I'm gonna reuse my hu, for now at least. And basically I was gonna put in frt components first just so I can have some music to listen to. maybe later I will think about a sub, but I can't drive without music so need some sort of system in there first.

also I was checking out ebay and found some mb quart previous generation stuff like the psd and qm lines. I was wondering would it be stupid to get the old generation stuff rather than the new models?? Are the new models that much better?? Another issue is the warranty, since I don't think mb quart would honor the warranty if it was not bought from an authorized dealer. Must admit tho the prices on ebay are great tho

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Old 07-26-2003, 03:30 PM   #7
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What 5.25" speakers do you know of that will fit in the door without cutting sheet metal, using a 1/4"spacer?
I did 4" speakers, but from the amount of room that I had, I think if you can find a 5.25 with a flush tweeter, there's a good chance of it fitting. if you take the door off and measure from the edge of the mounting area on the door to the back of that cavity, that's the dimension you need, since you're effectively top mounting.
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Old 07-26-2003, 03:33 PM   #8
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I mostly listen to techno and some rap. Yes I'm gonna reuse my hu, for now at least. And basically I was gonna put in frt components first just so I can have some music to listen to. maybe later I will think about a sub, but I can't drive without music so need some sort of system in there first.

also I was checking out ebay and found some mb quart previous generation stuff like the psd and qm lines. I was wondering would it be stupid to get the old generation stuff rather than the new models?? Are the new models that much better?? Another issue is the warranty, since I don't think mb quart would honor the warranty if it was not bought from an authorized dealer. Must admit tho the prices on ebay are great tho
if you're just looking for tunes while you build your killer system, I'd probaby reuse your head and check into some cheap 6.5 coaxials, or splurge on some $150 polk EX components (like mine ). That's a pretty cheap setup. If you order from crutchfield, and ask nicely, they might even throw in the mounting harness, or you might have to pay a couple of bucks. I'm sure other places do this too, if you don't like Crutchfield.

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Old 07-26-2003, 03:41 PM   #9
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Zenboy

Which BA Speakers did you get? Pro series? How big a spacer do you need to clear the glass?

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Old 07-26-2003, 05:24 PM   #10
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Zenboy

Which BA Speakers did you get? Pro series? How big a spacer do you need to clear the glass?

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I used the Pro series 6.5" components, as you said. For a spacer, I used cardboard to cut a template, then cut some 3/4" MDF (medium density fibreboard) to cut the spacer. It's perfect - I have about 1/4" clearance between the back of the magnet (it's huge on those speakers) and the glass assembly pieces in two different places.

In the back doors, I'm doing what Rob suggested and mounting BA Rally series 5.25" coaxials from behind the metal. There's JUST enough room to put them in there and move them around, so screw-hole placement will be crucial. I'll be using some weatherstripping foam to pad their mount since it's uneven, and then machine screws/nuts to hold them in place.

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