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Old 09-16-2022, 02:34 PM   #126
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Looks will always be subjective. I do find designs that have different front and back styling unattractive. As mentioned the lack of cohesive style just looks bad to me.

I think itís great that SOA is proactive with the whole environment thing. However, if they really cared about the environment they would get their emissions under control. If and when the US just uses the same standards as Europe, Subaru is dead.

Planning on an all EV line-up is short sighted also. There will be commercial carbon-neutral liquid options.

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Old 09-16-2022, 03:16 PM   #127
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And I'm pretty much the opposite to most of that. I did think the '05 Legacy was a good step forward for looks; but, have liked all the versions since more. I have never liked an Alpha design and NOONE, including the SOA person that told me, can convince me that Zapatinas wasn't using his Alpha experience on Subaru. I scrolled right on by the B-11S looking for Subarus at that autoshow(online) cause my brain saw "Alpha" with that front end. Even look at the B-9 tail end and see the similarities to the Alpha Kamal concept. SOOOOOOOOO happy that failed and they moved on. Now, the Impreza/WRX/STI version of that worked the best and isn't horrible. I'd have zero issue owning that. But, saw an R-2 while in Japan and just shook my head.
Allegedly, the exterior was done on the B9 before Zapatinas got there. He worked on the interior...however, I agree the Kamal concept is very close and the three lobed airplane grille was very Alfa-esque. I don't believe the story. I thought the B11S was great at the time, now it's not so hot haha.

FYI, it is Alfa or A.L.F.A (Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili, translated Lombardy Automobile Factory, Inc.), not Alpha. They are all gorgeous in their way.
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Old 09-16-2022, 03:18 PM   #128
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Looks will always be subjective. I do find designs that have different front and back styling unattractive. As mentioned the lack of cohesive style just looks bad to me.

I think itís great that SOA is proactive with the whole environment thing. However, if they really cared about the environment they would get their emissions under control. If and when the US just uses the same standards as Europe, Subaru is dead.

Planning on an all EV line-up is short sighted also. There will be commercial carbon-neutral liquid options.

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I'm curious to the differences in the Hydrid engine and their "normal" engine. If it is better for emissions, why not move more with that? I'm sure the info is somewhere. Was just in here "running my mouth" about it. They clearly have a plan(talked about it at last years retailer meeting I went to). Just curious to what it is.
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Old 09-16-2022, 03:19 PM   #129
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Well killing the STI was a good start. Now they/we got room to breath!
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Old 09-16-2022, 03:24 PM   #130
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I'm curious to the differences in the Hydrid engine and their "normal" engine. If it is better for emissions, why not move more with that? I'm sure the info is somewhere. Was just in here "running my mouth" about it. They clearly have a plan(talked about it at last years retailer meeting I went to). Just curious to what it is.
They should make all top (Touring or Limited) trims hybrid in the US. Either PHEV or Hybrid (e Boxer).
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Old 09-16-2022, 09:03 PM   #131
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Allegedly, the exterior was done on the B9 before Zapatinas got there. He worked on the interior...however, I agree the Kamal concept is very close and the three lobed airplane grille was very Alfa-esque. I don't believe the story. I thought the B11S was great at the time, now it's not so hot haha.

FYI, it is Alfa or A.L.F.A (Anonima Lombarda Fabbrica Automobili, translated Lombardy Automobile Factory, Inc.), not Alpha. They are all gorgeous in their way.
I missed this earlier. Man, I was just not paying attention with the spelling. Thanks for the slap. And, yeah, like I said, no one is gonna convince me. UNLESS, they "copied" him knowing they were going to bring him in and were like "Look, we LOVE your designs soooo much we copied them. Please come work with us and finish them".....
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Old 09-17-2022, 11:20 AM   #132
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I have to say it's sad/funny that the Crosstrek has more paint on its bumpers than the WRX. Really makes one wonder what the hell Subaru was thinking.
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Old 09-17-2022, 01:01 PM   #133
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Yah but the WRX has never looked good and also this




so your opinion is meaningless troll talk. Probably not in the market to buy a WRX anyway.
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Old 09-17-2022, 08:15 PM   #134
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This time with subtitles! FUN!
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Old 09-19-2022, 01:04 PM   #135
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Really laying on the idea of a mini-outback which I don't hate. If I had a kid going to college, this would be what the're getting -Nothing higher than a Prem trim.
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Old 09-20-2022, 10:45 AM   #136
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they will sell a bajillion of these. Great family car for sure for those needing affordable reliable transportation. Not the prettiest, but it does look better on the move in that video.
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Old 09-30-2022, 09:42 PM   #137
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Neat video by SoJ for the 50th anniversary of Subaru AWD, mostly featuring the new Crosstrek.

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Old 09-30-2022, 10:02 PM   #138
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It's like a video of all my cars together.
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Old 10-01-2022, 02:03 PM   #139
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They really seem to like the Crosstrek(XV). LOL. The Aussies did a similar video when the XV was released way back then. I really liked that commercial and wished they had done something similar here.
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Old 10-01-2022, 07:06 PM   #140
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Very cool.


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Old 10-03-2022, 05:30 PM   #141
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I'll never forgive them for leaving my Sweet 4th gen Lgt design in the dust like that. All I craved was a spec B (Not much diff from my lgt), but dammit I was close (Until they were all bought up)
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Old 10-03-2022, 05:43 PM   #142
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I saw a super clean, stock 4th Gen LGT sedan the other day. Stock wheels too, believe it or not. I almost wanted to wait for the person to return to their car just so I could ask if they were the original owner, then leave my contact info if they ever planned to sell the thing. Such a rare specimen.
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Old 11-12-2022, 08:35 PM   #143
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Crosstrek did not fare well in new side impact tests.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/2022-s...act-crash-test

Presumably the Impreza & WRX will also fare poorly in these tests.
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Old 11-12-2022, 09:01 PM   #144
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Nah, all the rugged unpainted plastic will save you.
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ROFL, and it is still much, much safer than the ancient IS or the tiny GTI. ..Cladding and all.
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We're months away from a FMC that will likely improve this.
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So even more rugged hardcore plastic cladding with the changeover?
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Old 11-13-2022, 11:01 AM   #148
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Time to sell my Impreza.
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Old 11-13-2022, 09:57 PM   #149
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Man. You'd better! That tin can gonna get you killed!




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Old 11-14-2022, 12:45 AM   #150
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ROFL, and it is still much, much safer than the ancient IS or the tiny GTI. ..Cladding and all.
Trolling, yet again.

Quick Google search reveals that the gti had the same rating on the original test, and was not retested with this updated protocol yet. So continue talking out your ass.

Really sad how tied your life is to the perceptions of Subaru cars.
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