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Old 09-01-2021, 01:41 AM   #26
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What color blue is that? Seems slightly darker/deeper than WRB..

I can't decide what's worse - the MASSIVE wheel well cladding or the black hood decal or the unpainted bumpers or the fail motor leaving a perfectly good FA24DIT on the table.

But that blue is tits.
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Did they grab that giant front badge from the Ascent?
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Old 09-01-2021, 02:32 AM   #28
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Aww.. the wheels are so cute. Who doesn't want to own Voltron's right rollerskate?
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What color blue is that? Seems slightly darker/deeper than WRB..

I can't decide what's worse - the MASSIVE wheel well cladding or the black hood decal or the unpainted bumpers or the fail motor leaving a perfectly good FA24DIT on the table.

But that blue is tits.
Geyser Blue, same as the Outback WE. They experimented with the color for several years before making it official.

The anti-glare matte black on the hood is a feature that Jeep adopted too.

The biggest fail is definitely not using the FA24DIT.
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Geyser Blue, same as the Outback WE. They experimented with the color for several years before making it official.

The anti-glare matte black on the hood is a feature that Jeep adopted too.

The biggest fail is definitely not using the FA24DIT.
I see, and here I thought it was the Power Dome, alas M3/M4 and the new Z. Because we know the motor in this thing is a beast.

Either way, I am certain Subaru will be selling a ton of these to the lift kit crowd. I have seen one Outback Wilderness, it was going into a Hooters. What does that tell ya.
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Old 09-01-2021, 02:29 PM   #31
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I see, and here I thought it was the Power Dome, alas M3/M4 and the new Z. Because we know the motor in this thing is a beast.

Either way, I am certain Subaru will be selling a ton of these to the lift kit crowd. I have seen one Outback Wilderness, it was going into a Hooters. What does that tell ya.



That they like to see boobies and get some wings either before or after tackling the mountain?


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This segment is jumping all the sharks.
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This segment is jumping all the sharks.
I bet fit and finish is better that the Forester. And I don't mind the looks of this thing, the interior is fantastic too.
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I bet fit and finish is better that the Forester. And I don't mind the looks of this thing, the interior is fantastic too.
The interior really is fantastic. Much nicer than anything Subaru offers or for that matter pretty well any of the Japanese automakers. I find the front end is a little too much but I don't know if it's any worse than the bland front end of the Forester and CR-V.

Back on topic it appears Subaru is hell bent on incorporating black plastic cladding on all their vehicles. Someone needs to tell them that nobody ever asked for this as it looks super cheap.
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Maybe Subaru has taken note of the attention and good press Ford received from the Bronco as well as current Jeep popularity and are attempting to butch up the look of their vehicles to make them all look rugged and tough. I just don't understand this direction at all.
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Maybe Subaru has taken note of the attention and good press Ford received from the Bronco as well as current Jeep popularity and are attempting to butch up the look of their vehicles to make them all look rugged and tough. I just don't understand this direction at all.



It's a trim level. A car people have been screaming for for years. Just cause you don't see it("nobody asked for") doesn't make it not true. Dealers have been "making" these cars at the "demand" of their customers. Now, they get something a bit better.......with a warranty. If you don't understand this direction, then you don't understand Subaru.
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Old 09-01-2021, 09:11 PM   #37
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Maybe Subaru has taken note of the attention and good press Ford received from the Bronco as well as current Jeep popularity and are attempting to butch up the look of their vehicles to make them all look rugged and tough. I just don't understand this direction at all.
Except those buyers will never consider a Subaru as a serious off road vehicle. Sorry but I am being bluntly honest.

Those plastic fenders give it a raised monster truck look, it looks so gaudy and dumb. A brand trying way too hard to be something it never was, never will be.

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Its interesting how the Outback Wilderness works while this just looks wrong... Very interesting.

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Old 09-01-2021, 10:41 PM   #39
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It's a trim level. A car people have been screaming for for years. Just cause you don't see it("nobody asked for") doesn't make it not true. Dealers have been "making" these cars at the "demand" of their customers. Now, they get something a bit better.......with a warranty. If you don't understand this direction, then you don't understand Subaru.
What do you mean dealers have been making these cars? Are you saying dealers are adding aftermarket black plastic cladding all over customer vehicles? Maybe in your neck of the woods but I understand Subaru in mine and they don't to that. Also let me know what dealers have been making CUV looking WRX's for customers. This is more than just a trim thing as we know it's coming to the WRX.
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What do you mean dealers have been making these cars? Are you saying dealers are adding aftermarket black plastic cladding all over customer vehicles? Maybe in your neck of the woods but I understand Subaru in mine and they don't to that. Also let me know what dealers have been making CUV looking WRX's for customers. This is more than just a trim thing as we know it's coming to the WRX.
Dealers have been adding aftermarket lift kits, off-road tires and wheels, skid plates etc and selling these “built” Crosstreks, Outbacks, and Foresters for a while now. Hence why Subaru is doing these WEdition models. The black cladding’s been there…Crosstreks have always had it and Outback /Forester models have them too. I dunno about the WRX though. I don’t know how that came to be. The WRX/STI scene/crowd has been more into making their cars pretty little Instagram show cars as opposed to the Crosstrek/Outback/Foz scene which are the ones buying all the Subtle Solutions and LP Adventure lift kits and other off-road accessories. It’s gonna be interesting how the WRX and specially the STI, end up looking with this cladding
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Don't forget the silly Ascent off-readers too. Fully see a Wilderness Ascent coming..


https://i.imgur.com/33unEaE.jpg
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https://i.imgur.com/4R3yaQ4.jpg
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We'll that didn't work out too well.
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Yeah I've seen various dealer-built off-roader Subies for years, from Alaska to New York. These Wilderness Editions will sell very well, even if they don't all have turbos, unfortunately.
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I regularly see crosstreks & Outbacks with mild lifts and AT tires on them; I think these wilderness editions will sell well; not my cuppa, but definitely something people want.
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Does this site not allow pictures from IMGUR?
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Imgur shut us down. Use the NASIOC system or Flickr.
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It is official: https://www.subaru.com/built-for-adventure

"The all-new 2022 Subaru Forester Wilderness is here to open up new frontiers for you to explore. The Forester Wilderness delivers enhanced off-road capability with increased ground clearance, a revised drivetrain for low speed, off-road performance, and the trail-tested confidence of standard Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive. Its style is just as rugged with tough exterior cladding, matte black alloy wheels with all-terrain tires, and blacked-out exterior trim contrasting with Anodized Copper finish accents. Because it's a Subaru, you know you can trust it to be durable and safe with the advanced protection of standard EyeSight® Driver Assist Technology[1]. So, no matter how far your Forester Wilderness takes you, you can always count on it to bring you safely back home."

9.2" ground clearance
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Wow, that's ugly. At least deep in the woods no one can see you.
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What do you mean dealers have been making these cars? Are you saying dealers are adding aftermarket black plastic cladding all over customer vehicles? Maybe in your neck of the woods but I understand Subaru in mine and they don't to that. Also let me know what dealers have been making CUV looking WRX's for customers. This is more than just a trim thing as we know it's coming to the WRX.
This isn't a discussion about the WRX, though, I have shared a pic of someone putting their own cladding on their STI. SO, there are people out there that like it. I'm still waiting to see it first. I may or may not like it.


The cladding is to not have as much damaged paint when people get these out into the Wilderness trails and are scraping those overhanging branches.
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News Subaru Announces Pricing On Refreshed 2022 Forester SUV

  • Debut of Forester Wilderness: most rugged and trail-capable Forester ever
  • All Forester trim levels have bold new look with redesigned front fascia and grille
  • Redesigned and strengthened roof rails to increase functionality
  • New Automatic Emergency Steering feature available
  • Pricing starts at $25,195
  • Subaru of America, Inc. today announced pricing on the 2022 Forester compact SUV, it's most popular model. For 2022, the Forester introduces the rugged Forester Wilderness***8482;: the newest model in the Wilderness family. The fifth-generation Forester also receives a redesigned front fascia along with new safety and convenience features.






The 2022 Forester will be offered in six trim levels when it arrives at Subaru retailers in October: Base, Premium, Sport, all-new Wilderness, Limited, and Touring.

For 2022, Forester is the latest model to join the adventure-ready Wilderness family. The new rugged trim level combines Subaru's renowned Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive with a specially revised drivetrain, standard X-MODE, elevated 9.2-inch ground clearance, and exclusive wheels with all-terrain tires. The Forester Wilderness also offers unique and functional exterior and interior appointments.

The entire 2022 Forester lineup receives a bolder new look with a redesigned front fascia, grille, headlights and fog light covers, with each change element varying to match the character of each trim level.

The 2022 Forester also comes standard with the latest version of EyeSight Driver Assist Technology. The enhanced system improves overall performance and operates under a broader range of conditions thanks to a wider field of view and improved control software. For the Premium with option package, and all higher trim levels, EyeSight includes new Automatic Emergency Steering. The new feature works in conjunction with the Pre-Collision Braking System to assist with steering control to help avoid a collision at speeds less than 50 mph.

As in prior model years, all Forester models include seven airbags: driver and front passenger frontal airbags, side curtain airbags and side pelvis/torso airbags, as well as a driver's knee airbag. Forester has been named an Insurance Institute for Highway Safety TOP SAFETY PICK+ for 3 years running (2019-2021).

Forester's legendary versatility is also improved for 2022 with a new ladder-type roof rail design. The improved rail system offers a higher dynamic load capacity (220 lb. vs. 176 lb.) and an 800-lb static load limit (vs. 700 lb.), allowing safe use of a roof-top tent. Helpful tie-down locations have also been integrated into the rails.

Inside, two additional utility hooks have been added to the roof of the rear cargo area and a brighter LED interior dome lamp with off-delay is now standard.

All Forester models are powered by a 2.5-liter SUBARU BOXER® engine teamed with a Lineartronic® CVT and Subaru Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive. The direct-injection engine produces 182 hp and 176 lb-ft of torque. The Forester is a highly efficient SUV, delivering up to 33 mpg EPA-estimated highway fuel economy. The compact SUV also offers up to 3,000-lb. towing capacity and features standard Trailer Stability Assist.

Introducing the 2022 Forester
The 2022 Forester (Base) is priced at $25,195 and continues the model's tradition of incredible value with a long list of standard features including power windows, door locks, and side mirrors; dual USB ports in the front center console; multi-function display; remote keyless entry; and combination meter with color LCD.

Also standard on Base is the SUBARU STARLINK® 6.5-inch Multimedia Plus system with high-resolution touchscreen, smartphone integration with Apple CarPlay®, Android***8482; Auto and Bluetooth® hands-free phone and audio streaming connectivity as well as SiriusXM® and a CD player.

For 2022, all Forester models add an LED dome light with off-delay operation, and additional cargo area hooks, enhancing the model's renowned versatility. An option package upgrades the base model with 17-inch aluminum alloy wheels in silver finish plus roof rails, now with convenient tie-down points, for an MSRP of $625.

2022 Forester Premium
The 2022 Forester Premium, priced from $28,195, adds a considerable upgrade over the Base in comfort, convenience and available tech. The standard All-Weather Package includes heated front seats, heated exterior mirrors and windshield wiper de-icer. The Premium also adds a 10-way power driver's seat with power lumbar support; 17-inch aluminum alloy wheels in black with machine finish; roof rails; dark tint privacy glass; and a panoramic power moonroof.

New for 2022, the Premium comes with enhanced roof rails with additional tie-down points for improved versatility.

For improved off-pavement performance, the Forester Premium trim features standard X-MODE® with Hill Descent Control. The Premium trim's interior is upgraded with a leather-wrapped steering wheel with silver stitching; center dash panel trim in black with silver metallic finish, and chrome inner door handles.

The Premium offers a single option package that includes Blind-Spot Detection with Lane Change Assist and Rear Cross-Traffic Alert and a Power Rear Gate with automatic close & height memory. The option package also adds the Automatic Emergency Steering function to the EyeSight system. The MSRP for the package is $1,165.

Forester Sport
With a starting price of $29,765, the 2022 Forester Sport offers unique exterior and interior elements for a youthful and rugged appearance as well as enhanced standard equipment over the Premium, including Blind-Spot Detection with Lane Change Assist and Rear Cross-Traffic Alert and Automatic Emergency Steering.

The exterior of the Sport trim is adorned with exclusive gloss black trim as well as black-finish 18-inch wheels and a black rear roof spoiler. Orange accents are featured on the side and front lower valances and roof rail mounts. An orange SPORT badge adds a striking yet complementary contrast on the rear of the vehicle. The exclusive Sport interior features a unique dark gray color scheme with orange stitching and accents throughout the cabin.

In addition, the Sport trim features Dual X-MODE for increased capability in a wider range of conditions.

A single option package is available for the 2022 Sport that includes Reverse Automatic Braking; SUBARU STARLINK 8.0-inch Multimedia Plus system; Harman Kardon® premium sound system; and a Power Rear Gate. The option package has a MSRP of $1,645.

Forester Wilderness
Building on the extensive feature content in the Premium trim, the new Forester Wilderness uniquely adds a slew of exclusive mechanical, design, and functional enhancements for added capability on the roads and trails less traveled. Critically, the rugged new model preserves the Forester's renowned blend of SUV capability and car-like ride and handling. The Forester Wilderness has a starting price of $32,820.

Exclusive chassis suspension components give the 2022 Forester Wilderness 9.2-inch ground clearance, a half-inch increase over the other Forester models, which already had among the highest in their segment. Longer coil springs and shock absorbers provide the added road clearance, while special tuning helps maintain the Forester's exceptional ride and handling performance with the increased height.

The Forester Wilderness comes equipped with Yokohama GEOLANDAR® all-terrain tires for increased traction on muddy or gravel roads. Mounted on exclusive 17-inch alloy wheels in matte black finish, the tires are embossed with raised white letters. A standard full-size tire is stored under the cargo the area, giving owners confidence while on the trails.

To visually communicate the more capable off-road performance, the Forester Wilderness adds exclusive styling with all-new front fascia with bold hexagonal front grille, larger wheel arch cladding, front skid plate, unique hexagonal LED fog lights and an anti-glare hood decal in matte-black finish.

Numerous exterior and interior details, including water resistant StarTex® seating surfaces, make the Forester Wilderness especially suited to carrying outdoors gear, even when wet or muddy. The ladder-type roof rack has a dynamic load capacity to 220 lb., and can support up to 800 lb. when parked, a capacity increase that allows for larger roof tents.

A single option package is available for the 2022 Wilderness that includes SUBARU STARLINK® 8.0-inch Multimedia Navigation system, Harman Kardon® premium sound system, and a Power Rear Gate. The option package has a MSRP of $1,850.

Forester Limited
Priced at $31,875, the 2022 Forester Limited includes all features from the Premium and is visually distinguished with 18-inch aluminum alloy wheels in black with machine finish; exterior mirrors in matching body color with integrated turn signals, and dark gray accent trim for the fog lights.

The 2022 Forester Limited adds Automatic Emergency Steering and 1-Touch Folding Rear Seatback.

The Limited comes standard with Blind-Spot Detection with Lane Change Assist and Rear Cross-Traffic Alert. Its roster of added amenities includes STARLINK 8-inch Multimedia Plus; perforated leather-trimmed upholstery; silver metallic with gloss black finish center dash panel trim; leather-wrapped steering wheel and shift lever handle; dual-zone automatic climate control with voice-activated controls; dual USB ports in the rear center console, and a power rear gate with auto close and height memory.

The Limited offers a single option package with Reverse Automatic Braking, STARLINK 8-inch Multimedia with Navigation powered by TomTom®, Harman Kardon speaker system and a Heated Steering Wheel. The MSRP of this robust package is $1,695.

Forester Touring
Continuing as the top of the model line, the 2022 Forester Touring is priced at $35,295. The Touring includes the full list of standard and optional features from the Limited and adds the innovative DriverFocus® Distraction Mitigation System, which for 2022 adds gesture control capability, allowing the driver to raise and lower the set temperature of the automatic climate control system through hand gestures.

The exterior of the Touring is distinguished by newly redesigned 18-inch alloy wheels in dark gray with machine finish, satin chrome exterior folding mirrors with integrated turn signals, and LED fog lights with chrome trim. For 2022, the appearance is enhanced with gloss black trim on the B- and C-pillars for a more premium appearance. This flagship trim level features roof rails with a silver finish, corresponding to the silver finish on the front, rear and side valences as well as the chrome exterior badges.

The Forester Touring cabin offers a choice of exclusive Black or Saddle Brown perforated leather trimmed upholstery; 10-way power driver's seat with 2-position memory (includes power lumbar support); 8-way power front passenger seat, and heated outboard rear seats. LEDs are used for cargo-area and dome lights with off-delay, as well as the rear gate.
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