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Old 06-18-2017, 11:07 PM   #26
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I have an ACT Heavy Duty Street clutch already so check on that. Unfortunately, I don't have money for headers at the moment. I'm not trying to max things out since motor will be stock for another year or two.
Headers are <$500...you could skip the ARP head studs, do a Moroso pickup to save $100 over the Killer B, and do the headers. Quite a bit cheaper than a new motor, let me be the first to say that.

ARP head studs are a good idea too though, especially since they'd be reusable in the future for an engine build. I'd just suck it up and spend the few bucks extra if it were me.
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Old 06-19-2017, 01:31 AM   #27
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+1 for arp head studs. They won't stretch like oe will. And they're reusable. If you have a few extra doll hairs, get the 625+ studs
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Old 06-19-2017, 03:59 PM   #28
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I've heard that the underlying issue for the pickup tube cracking is first order vibrations at the crankshaft and that on later model years such as my 2014, it would be okay to keep it stock and could look into a fluid damper pulley to help the issue. Has anyone heard this?

I opted out of the Killer B package for now but have plans to get it in the future.

Based on above suggestions I'm probably going to add some EL headers - preferably 4-1 design. Anyone know a good brand other than KillerB (And preferably cheaper)?

I went ARP2000 to save money. When I build the block in a couple years I'll replace them with the 625s
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Old 06-19-2017, 05:14 PM   #29
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Fathouse fabrications makes a fantastic 4-1 design on headers that rival killerb.
These headers are what I will be putting on my car in the next couple months
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:26 PM   #30
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I've heard that the underlying issue for the pickup tube cracking is first order vibrations at the crankshaft and that on later model years such as my 2014, it would be okay to keep it stock and could look into a fluid damper pulley to help the issue. Has anyone heard this?

I opted out of the Killer B package for now but have plans to get it in the future.

Based on above suggestions I'm probably going to add some EL headers - preferably 4-1 design. Anyone know a good brand other than KillerB (And preferably cheaper)?

I went ARP2000 to save money. When I build the block in a couple years I'll replace them with the 625s
The Moroso oil pickup is <$100 and will not crack. I think putting a fluidampr on is a shot in the dark to avoiding the stock pickup cracking. You don't need to get a new oil pan, baffle, or anything else to install the Moroso and not have to worry about the stock pickup failing.

I vouch for Killer B product, but it simply costs top dollar and it's simply not feasible for some of us.

Killer B headers are what, $1300 new? I am a big believer in them that they are worth the money, but for the money, I would be looking at the HKS offering.
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Old 06-19-2017, 07:09 PM   #31
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What are the downsides of getting Tomei Headers. They are the cheapest with an uppipe and also the most popular on RallySport
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Old 06-19-2017, 08:46 PM   #32
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What are the downsides of getting Tomei Headers. They are the cheapest with an uppipe and also the most popular on RallySport
Eh, I think they're pretty good...a lot of people report leaks from the slip joints and you hear of people getting the joints welded fairly regularly.

You're also limited to the 3 bolt up pipe connection if you ever want to put in a different up pipe (say for EWG or rotated).

And I personally steer clear of up pipes without a flex joint. Stock up pipe has a flex joint for a reason.

I'm a fan of that HKS haha. My friend has one and loves it. I run an Invidia EL header on my STi (not listed on RSD), and a CNT on my Forester.
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Fluidampr pulley looks good. Don't know how well it would adaptively dampen. To me it sounds unlikely that it accomplishes that task as there is a reason a lot of manufacturers integrate dampening modules that sit below the crankshaft for vibration. I don't see a pulley accomplishing anything much better than a stock one can.
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Old 06-20-2017, 05:45 PM   #34
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I did some research and apparently since Fluidampr uses a viscous damping instead of rubber like the stock one, the rpm bandwidth that the dampening is effective at is adaptive where the stock pulley is not.
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Old 06-26-2017, 11:30 AM   #36
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I'm going with the KillerB V-band stock location for now. Eventually I will just go rotated when the stock motor goes so it should be relatively straight forward
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I'm going with the KillerB V-band stock location for now. Eventually I will just go rotated when the stock motor goes so it should be relatively straight forward
Lucky. I wish I had the money to shell out for the real dea Killer B. Even over my Invidia, on a turbo my size I'd probably gain 30 whp.
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