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07-22-2013, 09:12 AM | #51 |
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I've been changing my own oil since day one with this car and I've been using Castrol Edge Titanium with whatever filter is included in the package when I buy it over at Advance Auto Parts. I am at 44,600 miles and my car has yet to consume any oil or have any issues. The Castrol oil changes go for about $32-35 for 5 quarts and the filter(usually FRAM Ultra, Bosch Distance Plus, or K&N) but I recently also picked up 10 quarts of Valvoline Synpower with two FRAM Ultra filters for $54.
I should also note that I recently noticed that the K&N filters that are coming on to the shelves are made in Korea instead of the USA. I don't know of anyone who has opened one up yet to see the difference but I am always wary when a company outsources their products to increase profits. You can tell the difference because Korean version is slightly smaller and the open end has a clear plastic cover on it.
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07-22-2013, 09:33 AM | #52 |
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I believe I've read elsewhere that K&N's quality isn't what it used to be. Perhaps others can confirm. I'd research this further on the Bob Is The Oil Guy site before I'd install a K&N filter on my car.
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07-22-2013, 09:49 AM | #53 | |
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My guess is that these Korean filters are made quite a bit cheaper. Overall they were smaller, lighter, and the sidewalls seemed thinner as I was able to squeeze the filter and see a deformation. I also looked through the opening and noticed that there were fewer holes and the holes were quite a bit smaller than in the US made filter. This may restrict oil flow causing the bypass valve to open prematurely. |
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07-22-2013, 11:19 AM | #54 |
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I'll tell you what, if I didn't already have six of the black Subaru/Roki "160" filters on my garage shelf, I'd be all over this eBay auction like a fat kid on cake:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fram-XG7317-...b7ca4b&vxp=mtr |
07-22-2013, 06:16 PM | #55 |
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Actually, even for the BRZ a thick 30 grade like German Castrol or a 40 grade oil is not needed with stock internals.
For someone considering a thicker oil, you should first do a used oil analysis to determine if you need a thicker oil. Even if I had an Impreza that burned oil using 0W-20, I would switch to a 5W-20 before trying a 30 grade. 5W-20's are more stable and usually have better NOACK volatility ratings (less evaporation). I don't see many BRZ uoa's but there are a lot of good ones on ft86club.com using 0W-20. -Dennis |
07-22-2013, 09:26 PM | #56 | |
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07-22-2013, 10:35 PM | #57 | |
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07-23-2013, 01:32 AM | #58 |
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No Mobil 1. Been buying PP 0w-20 since it's the only one I've seen on sale at the local Don Quijote. The Eneos stuff costs much more.
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07-23-2013, 07:59 AM | #59 |
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Even if you do a used oil analysis on a WRX factory fill, it comes back as a 20 grade and I suspect they use an extremely thin 30 grade or even a 20 grade at the factory. I know in some countries, they newer n/a Foresters allow 5W-30. In many cases, a 5W-30 and 5W-20 are made from the same base stock. The 5W-30 is just loaded with more viscosity modifiers to thicken it up which is why a 5W-20 can actually be more stable than a 5W-30 and many 5W-30's will shear to a 20 anyway.
Yes, a 0W-20 is thinner in extreme cold and will give you better fuel economy before the car is fully warmed up. So you're getting something like .25% better fuel economy for the first 5 minutes of operation. The cold cranking viscosity for a 0W is tested at -35C and a 5W is tested at -30C. http://www.pqiamerica.com/coldcrank.htm Of course, all 0W's aren't the same viscosity in sub-freezing temps you want one that is thinner on the MRV test at -40C. Looking through product data sheets is one way to find MRV. http://www.swri.org/4org/d08/global/...vs/default.htm http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/...mpability.aspx Of course, it can be tricky trying to compare oil specs since some companies list CCS and others list MRV. http://www.mobil.com/USA-English/Lub...l_Economy.aspx http://www.eneos.us/product/1 A viscosity graph can be helpful as well and you just enter the 40C and 100C Kinematic Viscosity. It's just less accurate below 0C but it gives you a good idea of actual viscosity. http://www.widman.biz/English/Calculators/Graph.html -Dennis Last edited by bluesubie; 07-23-2013 at 08:19 AM. |
07-23-2013, 04:07 PM | #60 | |
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10-09-2013, 04:03 AM | #61 |
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10-09-2013, 06:30 AM | #62 |
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Pretty easy to get if you make an online account and price is isn't much more than mobil 1 etc if you order a lot (multiple vehicles, multiple changes)
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10-09-2013, 08:03 AM | #63 |
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I used Amsoil OE for my first 3 oil changes, and the Used Oil Analysis I did looked very good. But when I saw on Bob Is The Oil Guy that the Pennzoil Platinum oil is also very well loved, and it can be purchased for less money at Walmart (at a huge discount if there's a sale/coupon), that's when I switched to Pennzoil.
So no complaints with Amsoil. But if I can buy another great product, for less money, while at Walmart buying Band-aids, then that's what I'm going to do. |
10-09-2013, 08:48 AM | #64 | |
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When I find something that works well I rarely change, plus I'm planning extended intervals once warranty is out |
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10-09-2013, 09:19 AM | #65 |
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10-09-2013, 03:43 PM | #66 |
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Do the BRZ guys using thicker oils see lower wear metals than those using 0W20?
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10-09-2013, 03:54 PM | #67 |
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Is the standard Subaru oil good for our cars or would we be upgrading with Mobil1 or something different? The reason I ask is because when I bought my car the dealer told me as long as i do my regular oil changes at their shop I would have lifetime warranty on my engine which is great since I plan to keep the car for a while... I am assuming the subaru oil they are using should not be too bad?
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10-09-2013, 05:45 PM | #68 | |
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10-15-2013, 02:15 AM | #69 | |
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I never heard of a dealership that'll do an oil change with your own supplies? thought they had to use OEM only. Am i wrong? |
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11-01-2013, 07:49 PM | #70 |
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I always used royal purple for my bemmer, but when I was getting ready for my first oil change, I talked to the mechanic, and he told me it was a waste on the first couple of changes, because the engine is breaking in, he suggested just to get first few free, and than put the royal purple in.
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11-02-2013, 07:30 AM | #71 |
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To maintain your warranty you must be able to provide proof (receipts) that you followed the recommended oil change intervals specified in the owners manual.
If those receipts show any grade of oil other than 0W-20, that can be used, as could failure to provide evidence of the oil changes, to deny warranty work. You might want to reconsider playing around with different weight oils until after your warranty expires. |
11-02-2013, 08:20 AM | #72 | |
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11-02-2013, 08:25 AM | #73 |
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Every oil change, I bring my own oil to the dealership(they supply the "Roki" filter and crush ring) and they change it for me. It costs me less than $24 at the dealership and they have a record of my oil changes.
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11-02-2013, 09:04 AM | #74 | |
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11-02-2013, 09:04 AM | #75 | |
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Bob is the oil guy says the stock Idemitsu is great stuff. I get free oil changes for life so my oil will lilely be the factory stuff unless I'm too far away to get to the dealer. So far my 3/13 build date XV hasnt burned any noticeable amount of oil since new. I did a thorough break in and also drained the factory fill at 200-300 miles. Its great not having to watch the dipstivk like a hawk. |
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