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Old 03-12-2019, 12:36 PM   #751
Norm Peterson
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Originally Posted by Charlie-III View Post
Looks pretty decent.
I believe the basic premise of this thread is, can you currently lock the brakes/invoke the ABS?
If yes, better brakes gain little until you increase tire grip.
The big catch here is that when poo actually is about to happen, only a little "gain" can mean the difference between contact and only soiled underwear.

In fact, this is precisely the logic behind today's "brake assist" nannies - the system applies the brakes more rapidly than an unsure driver will ever do, shortening the stopping distance by getting you up to max deceleration sooner. But aside from brake assist not being under the driver's control, it really isn't any different from installing pads with stronger 'bite', that develop a similarly high amount of braking from less pedal pressure and generally less pedal stroke.

Whether it's artificially increasing the rate of hydraulic system pressurization or increasing the 'mu' of the pads/rotors, they're just different ways of getting brake torque up to where you need it sooner than with standard mu pads and average-driver rates of pedal application.

There is one caution . . . once you've driven a car equipped with pads that have noticeably stronger bite than OE or mass-market OE replacement (especially mass-market bargain ceramics), you may never want to go back. The necessary pedal modulation is something that most people should be capable of learning.

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