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Old 07-13-2019, 11:03 PM   #201
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Geek Moment

I looked at the date 7.18.19 and since the red was highlighted I thought 7 ate 9.

anyways. Going away now.
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Old 07-18-2019, 11:42 PM   #202
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I think it looks good

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0-60 in under 3 seconds on the standard model

Under $60K


Nice job GM

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Old 07-19-2019, 12:03 AM   #203
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I liked it. Fastest corvette ever with the Z51 package. It looks pretty good at first glance. I couldn't quite understand them (watching on roku youtube, couldn't find official stream so it was some guy streaming his TV, lol) but it looks like full coilovers at all four corners?

Oh, and it fits two golf bags for the guy that was worried. haha.
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Old 07-19-2019, 12:23 AM   #204
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Very tempting.
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Old 07-19-2019, 12:51 AM   #205
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Old 07-19-2019, 12:54 AM   #206
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Old 07-19-2019, 04:28 AM   #207
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Holy mother of balls.

They did it, the crazy SOBs really did it.

I have a few more hangups with it than I expected, but holy hell. What a car at $60K.

Styling is good, but not really blowing my mind. It'll be one to see in person to see how it really looks. The interior looks great, I love the cockpit style but I really have to question all the accessory buttons being on the cabin divider. Looks distracting and silly some of it wasn't on the dash. The thought of scooping one of these used under $30K in a few years is just mind-blowing though. This seems poised to just curb stomp every car in the world in price to performance.
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Old 07-19-2019, 06:21 AM   #208
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Pros
Bonkers starting price for the package, if really under $60k
Love the front of the car

Cons
Bonkers starting price for the package, dealers will surely mark up and it is unlikely that dealers will order basic/stripper unpackaged cars.
Don’t like the side profile
Don’t like the rear design

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Interior looks to have gone upscale, not sure about the climate control buttons not the steering wheel. Will hold out till I see this in person

Got me very curious to see how this car is gonna hit the competition.
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Old 07-19-2019, 07:31 AM   #209
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obligatory "no manual no care" now that I've gotten that out of the way; holy mother of god that is a lot of performance for not much cash, I might have to get over my three pedal requirement for it....
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Old 07-19-2019, 07:55 AM   #210
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Holy mother of balls.

They did it, the crazy SOBs really did it.

I have a few more hangups with it than I expected, but holy hell. What a car at $60K.

Styling is good, but not really blowing my mind. It'll be one to see in person to see how it really looks. The interior looks great, I love the cockpit style but I really have to question all the accessory buttons being on the cabin divider. Looks distracting and silly some of it wasn't on the dash. The thought of scooping one of these used under $30K in a few years is just mind-blowing though. This seems poised to just curb stomp every car in the world in price to performance.
Yeah that was first thing I thought too. Actually, it was smart. All new cars have electrical gremlins from all the nannies and low quality switch gear. So all you got to do is pull that five foot switch panel up Bam it’s all there. Less crap for them to destroy when they repair you nannies.
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Old 07-19-2019, 08:55 AM   #211
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I'm going to go check out current the C7 Z06 / ZR1 - maybe pick one up in manual and hold onto it.

Interesting thing about the regular C8 is the motor - especially since it looks like they are going to DOHC TT for the Z06. Assume the base motor will switch over at some point as well.
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Old 07-19-2019, 09:53 AM   #212
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I'm going to go check out current the C7 Z06 / ZR1 - maybe pick one up in manual and hold onto it.

Interesting thing about the regular C8 is the motor - especially since it looks like they are going to DOHC TT for the Z06. Assume the base motor will switch over at some point as well.
This.

Something about the proportions and rear that's just hard to take in. I look at the Ferrari 488 or F8 and the portions are similar but it's just..cleaner? Looks like one piece? Regarding the C7, the pitch was the C7 maxed out the front engine capability. Not so sure about that. Speaking of Ferrari, they have a couple of front engine cars that are bonkers when it comes to performance of course at a price.

Secretly I was hoping for something more like the NSX with a V8 and manual. NSX is just so clean looking to me.
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Old 07-19-2019, 09:56 AM   #213
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It will probably be a year or more before you can actually buy a $60k model, if ever.
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:03 AM   #214
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Sad day when there is no manual Vette. Car looks great except for the rear. I'll never understand GM's decisions.
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:26 AM   #215
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I think that once a car gets past a certain performance profile, a manual transmission that requires you to take your hands off the wheel is not desirable.
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Old 07-19-2019, 10:34 AM   #216
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Regarding the C7, the pitch was the C7 maxed out the front engine capability.
Not the engine itself, but the overall performance with front/rear designs...
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First, Chevrolet recognized that, from a performance standpoint, the C7 Corvette (especially the Z06) had maxed-out the Corvette’s performance potential in its current front-engine, rear-wheel drive iteration. Adding more power to a front-engine design only helped in accelerating the amount of rubber that was burned off the rear wheels during aggressive acceleration. Moving the engine’s mass closer to the drive tires was/is believed to be the most effective means of improving Corvette’s acceleration and braking capabilities.
https://www.corvsport.com/2020-mid-engine-corvette/
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Old 07-19-2019, 11:14 AM   #217
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DCT transmission, eh?

Lots of complaints from manual converts on the R forum about how with stock programming, the computer often queues up the wrong gear, leaving you a sitting duck when you mash the pedal and the trans has to catch up. Honestly, a modern TC automatic might have been a better choice.

Wonder if a Manual might be offered at a later date... seems crazy to not offer this thing with a manual.

I get the arguments about keeping hands on the wheel, but once a computer is left in charge of picking gears for you, you've lost a lot of control...
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Old 07-19-2019, 11:17 AM   #218
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Just read they said there is no manual because they had to develop a transmission from scratch and also have no room for the clutch pedal.
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Old 07-19-2019, 11:29 AM   #219
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Just read they said there is no manual because they had to develop a transmission from scratch and also have no room for the clutch pedal.
Article says it's a Tramec DCT, and previous rumors suggest that this is the same trans being used by Ford in the GT500... so it doesn't seem like it was developed from scratch for this car.
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Old 07-19-2019, 11:37 AM   #220
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No way you could develop a DCT from scratch and keep the cost down, not with Corvette volumes.

I still think the C6 Z06 is one of the last "pure" Corvettes, with the big fixed cam port injected pushrod engine and manual trans.
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Old 07-19-2019, 12:32 PM   #221
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This car has a new, bespoke DCT transmission that GM is betting the reputation of the Corvette brand on. That transmission needs to be brilliant.

Let the reviews roll, auto journalists. Tell us how GM did.
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Old 07-19-2019, 12:59 PM   #222
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I am just going say it. Without even knowing how it drives or the fact that it is sans manual transmission. GM just built the NSX honda should have built. I have to go throw up now but a simple affordable supercar that is RWD with no BS hybrid crap in it anywhere.

Just a powerful engine in an affordable car that should be hoot to drive.

Get on a waiting list soon folks.
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:16 PM   #223
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I think what may be the waning decades of driver cars, GM just threw a hail mary and damn if it didn't make it into the end zone.
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:21 PM   #224
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I am just going say it. Without even knowing how it drives or the fact that it is sans manual transmission. GM just built the NSX honda should have built. I have to go throw up now but a simple affordable supercar that is RWD with no BS hybrid crap in it anywhere.

Just a powerful engine in an affordable car that should be hoot to drive.

Get on a waiting list soon folks.
They may end up putting some of the mild hybrid stuff that goes on the Silverado in it as regulations tighten.
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Old 07-19-2019, 01:30 PM   #225
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all the more reason to buy the pure version now before it gains an extra 450 lbs
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