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Old 04-16-2019, 05:29 PM   #26
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It is not a complex if its true. Haters gonna hate.



On top of being better, americans are extremely humble about it.

Seriously though... when you compare the antiquated US standards to the much more up-to-date EU standards, it's a complete shame that we can't pull our head out of our ass.

I looked into why the cool dynamic tail lights available on the Golf R in other countries cannot be sold in the US... For one, the dynamic turn signal exists in a gray area (that ford exploits with the sequential signals on the mustang), but the other is that the brake lights in the US are based on size. In Europe it's based on actual light output. It's just too american for our standards to be based on size instead of actual light output... So obsessed with SIZE.
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Old 04-16-2019, 07:21 PM   #27
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The Mustang's sequential looked like construction work zone lights.. with halogen bulbs making them look incredibly cheap not to forget the horrible fit and finish of the panels.

The RS6 Avant is nice, but it is a bit too big. I wish they could do an RS4 / S4 Avant size.. with MT.
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Old 04-17-2019, 09:58 AM   #28
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On top of being better, americans are extremely humble about it.

Seriously though... when you compare the antiquated US standards to the much more up-to-date EU standards, it's a complete shame that we can't pull our head out of our ass.

I looked into why the cool dynamic tail lights available on the Golf R in other countries cannot be sold in the US... For one, the dynamic turn signal exists in a gray area (that ford exploits with the sequential signals on the mustang), but the other is that the brake lights in the US are based on size. In Europe it's based on actual light output. It's just too american for our standards to be based on size instead of actual light output... So obsessed with SIZE.
It is just different...I think you are reading way too much into it. Euro's is not any better or worse, just a different way of doing things. I suppose to a light designer, that would be an issue, but to the average joe, meh, not a big deal.

Humility definitely has its place. Like so many other things, there is a time and a place for it. Some Americans are great at it, others, not so much, but you can say the same for every other country.
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:30 AM   #29
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Default 2020 Audi RS6 Avant Will Be Sold IN USA

2020 Audi RS6 Avant: It Hauls and Haulsóand Itís Finally Coming to America!
It's true: Weíre getting Audiís hottest station wagon.

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2020 Audi RS6 Avant is a 592-hp, 190-mph wagon that's coming to the US

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The 591-horsepower RS6 wagon is coming to America.

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Old 08-21-2019, 06:31 AM   #30
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Damn you. Was just searching for the thread because it wasn't posted in, and it showed up top in the search. Got me by seconds.

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Old 08-21-2019, 08:54 AM   #31
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This will be small inside with the raked rear window, and might be slow (trap speed). Panamera is slow. E63 wagon is also small inside, and drives like what it is - a long, heavy wagon. I'll stick with big, boxy, slow SUV's for SUV things, sedans for sedan things, and sports cars for sports car things. But if looking for the Swiss army knife, the E63 would be my choice in the segment.
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:46 AM   #32
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Forgot to put... Nice Genesis G70 Wagon.

I love they're bringing it over. LOVE it. Love the design too. Going to be a beast and this would probably be the only VAG I'd own. But, I cannot afford it.

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Old 08-21-2019, 11:23 AM   #33
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beautiful car.

can't afford.

wish they'd just bring the damn RS3 sportback to the US. Now that's something I could foresee myself buying.
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Old 08-21-2019, 12:06 PM   #34
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This is awesome! I just don't want to know the price. If the RS 5 is already $75k, this will probably be at least $85k.

How about standard and S Avants?
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Old 08-21-2019, 01:04 PM   #35
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This is awesome! I just don't want to know the price. If the RS 5 is already $75k, this will probably be at least $85k.

How about standard and S Avants?
I think it's going to be barely undercutting MB E63S Wagon pricing; at least $100K.
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Old 08-21-2019, 10:32 PM   #36
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How I see this playing out...

US car enthusiasts: Bring us more wagons!
Audi: Here. That'll be $110,000
US car enthusiasts: ...
Audi: See, US consumers hate wagons.
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It's amusingly sad that I was hoping this could be had for around $60k
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Old 08-22-2019, 10:03 PM   #38
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$60k gets you an RS3!

$80k for an RS4/5 proper wagon would be pretty sick.

This is going to be an awesome cruise missile of a car. Wish I could borrow one just for a little bit.
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Old 08-22-2019, 11:27 PM   #39
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Gimme the RS3 sportback for 60k and now we're taking.
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Old 08-23-2019, 10:10 AM   #40
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Just get the sedan, if you can stomach manual seats at this price range you would not be disappointed..
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Old 08-23-2019, 10:24 AM   #41
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Just get the sedan, if you can stomach manual seats at this price range you would not be disappointed..
Me: I want a fast wagon, fun and practical
You: How about this sedan?
Me: No, I want a fast wagon
You: Oh I see, how about this crossover?
Me: W-A-G-O-N
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Old 08-23-2019, 11:05 AM   #42
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Lol. Well, Audi did call the something or other concept four door a coupe so the logic almost fits.
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Old 08-23-2019, 11:37 AM   #43
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Just get the sedan, if you can stomach manual seats at this price range you would not be disappointed.
Nope, not gonna happen. Hatchback fo'lyfe.

In all seriousness, I'm an engineer and I want function over form. I do not travel at speeds to benefit from a more aerodynamic form, but I do load and haul stuff where a sedan just doesn't cut it. On top of that, I just think that a sedan looks compromised. The vehicle is still long, but for the sake of looks(?) they cut the roof short? Looks dumb to me. Give me either a coupe or a hatchback, none of this sedan garbage.

Honestly, I'd RS3 swap my R before I thought about buying a sedan.

I might have a hard time swallowing the price tag, but boy would I have a hard time saying no to this car... Straight up, I think this is the best looking car that Audi makes right now. (admittedly this one is modified)

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Car is absolutely stunning and so is the sticker price. Nevertheless it is still $100k less than the new NISMO GT-R.
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How I see this playing out...

US car enthusiasts: Bring us more wagons!
Audi: Here. That'll be $110,000
US car enthusiasts: ...
Audi: See, US consumers hate wagons.
Pretty much. Close the thread now.
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Old 08-24-2019, 03:38 PM   #46
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Gimme the RS3 sportback for 60k and now we're taking.
It still wouldn't sell. If there is anything that I have learned over the years it's that car forum posters are the last opinions automakers should ever listen to if the goal is to actually sell cars and make profit. The small handful of people clamouring for these cars simply isn't enough to make bringing them over warranted. I know lots of you here think you speak for the masses but you don't. North Americans simply don't want these cars.
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You've learned over the years to buy what car makers think you want?
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Clearly Americans like driving top-heavy SUV/CUVís that drive like theyíre going to tip over through every turn on the road. I canít stand driving my wifeís Ford Edge. I practically get sick just leaving the neighborhood.


This is what Americanís want...
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Why no RS4?
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Old 08-25-2019, 10:45 PM   #50
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You've learned over the years to buy what car makers think you want?
Nope. I am no different than you. We fall into a niche segment that want something different than the masses.

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Clearly Americans like driving top-heavy SUV/CUV’s that drive like they’re going to tip over through every turn on the road. I can’t stand driving my wife’s Ford Edge. I practically get sick just leaving the neighborhood.


This is what American’s want...
Yep. My wife wants to get out of her Outback because she feels she doesn't sit high enough in it relative to her friends full size SUV. It sucks but I can't fault the automakers for catering to the market.
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