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Old 09-11-2019, 11:18 PM   #26
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"If you can leave two black stripes from the exit of one corner to the school zone of the next, you have enough horsepower."

Mark Donohue said it best.
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Old 09-12-2019, 11:31 AM   #27
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On public roads I've found 250-350 whp is just fine. 350 is almost too much in most populated areas, but nice if you have some more rural places.

On actual tracks for track days or whatever else when there's no on coming traffic I'd say 350-450 is reasonable depending on experience. However, most people who actually track will say 200-300 is still just plenty when you factor in consumables and costs.

My 05 STi I'm rebuilding is shooting for 300 whp and that's it. Honestly, that'll be plenty for just about everything needed.
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Old 09-12-2019, 03:06 PM   #28
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yeah if you want to kill yourself

I agree 300 is way more than enough for windy roads. learn how to driver first then upgrade suspension. I have a 400 whp wrx and I cant even go 50% throttle in windy roads. but i have a little MR2 that has gearing and all and it way more fun for that type of stuff

BTW how fast are you going on these windy roads? if yo cant answer this question, you should really pay attention. even if you increase your entry speed like 3 MPH and are able to hold that on the exit you are going to be significantly faster than most people. doesnt take much .. just saying its not about power

your missing the point dude. he needs 700whp.
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Old 09-15-2019, 06:30 AM   #29
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your missing the point dude. he needs 700whp.
did you see he averages 100 mph on these roads.. thats faster than the wrc guys go
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Old 09-15-2019, 04:08 PM   #30
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Guys. I kind of get it. He actually is saying he wants to have the fun at a lower speed. Torque will do that for him.

Twinscroll + e85 will rock it.

Oh yeah... and run 16” wheels with 165 65 16 with a tread-wear rating of 600. Make sure to inflate them to 60psi. That’ll get you the slippage you want.
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Old 09-15-2019, 05:16 PM   #31
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did you see he averages 100 mph on these roads.. thats faster than the wrc guys go

I should be averaging 120mph on residential backroads
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Old 09-20-2019, 05:18 PM   #32
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Guys. I kind of get it. He actually is saying he wants to have the fun at a lower speed. Torque will do that for him.

Twinscroll + e85 will rock it.

Oh yeah... and run 16” wheels with 165 65 16 with a tread-wear rating of 600. Make sure to inflate them to 60psi. That’ll get you the slippage you want.
I second that wheel choice
In all seriousness, I think you could turn it up to 400whp as long as your spool comes early enough and it will be a blast. Above that it'll just get too laggy and no fun at low speeds... speaking from experience, I had a 320hp wrx and a 515hp STI, the wrx lacked a bit of juice and the sti was laggy as balls... find something inbetween and it will be perfect!
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Old 09-24-2019, 01:19 PM   #33
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In my opinion, for a fun and winding road peak HP is not the number to worry about. I'd be more concerned with a nice fat power curve with gobs of torque.

If you can crank out 550-600, but your power curve is nothing until 5000 rpm you're going to be sorely disappointed when comparing to a car that's 400 hp peak, but with tons of area under the curve starting at 3200.
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Old 09-24-2019, 02:24 PM   #34
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I had 420 WHP on my 04 sti and it was enough as a DD, weekend track car (not drag) and autocross. I would look into upgrading your suspension/handling/good tires, and brakes. That is a must IMO.
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Old 09-24-2019, 02:51 PM   #35
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For me its not enough i feel like theres more room for improvement ive used all its power and ended up unsatisfied with just stock power
You have never reached your cars potential, I can guarantee that. Learn to become a better driver first, your car will seem faster once you do.
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Old 09-24-2019, 04:41 PM   #36
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You have never reached your cars potential, I can guarantee that. Learn to become a better driver first, your car will seem faster once you do.
eh he will build his car and be dissapointed then sell it cause its wasnt what he wanted.
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Old 09-24-2019, 06:42 PM   #37
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In my opinion, for a fun and winding road peak HP is not the number to worry about. I'd be more concerned with a nice fat power curve with gobs of torque.

If you can crank out 550-600, but your power curve is nothing until 5000 rpm you're going to be sorely disappointed when comparing to a car that's 400 hp peak, but with tons of area under the curve starting at 3200.
This. Subaru's are designed from factory to make gobs of midrange for a reason.

With that being said, it's corners that are fun on public roads, not straights.

Don't be an idiot - take it to the track.
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Old 09-24-2019, 07:51 PM   #38
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This. Subaru's are designed from factory to make gobs of midrange for a reason.

With that being said, it's corners that are fun on public roads, not straights.

Don't be an idiot - take it to the track.
This! A million times this!!!
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Old 09-24-2019, 09:17 PM   #39
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This! A million times this!!!
But muh 1320 skreet kreddd doe
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Old 09-24-2019, 11:31 PM   #40
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But muh 1320 skreet kreddd doe

drag racing a Subaru is like shooting yourself in the foot if you want to go drag racing

they do not leave , period

go buy a mustang , or an ls s10 , hell an electric skateboard holeshots better

there are some stupidly amazing quick subarus out there but imho , not the right car to start with for drag racing , and if you dial it in for that you throw away all the other things that actually make the pos Subaru good

I like cars that do everything at least decently

and subarus can

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p.s. but wait there's more . I drag raced a lot years ago and decided it was pretty damn stupid to spend cubic more dollars to go quicker only to have fun for less time .. totally oxymoron
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Old 09-25-2019, 06:56 PM   #41
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drag racing a Subaru is like shooting yourself in the foot if you want to go drag racing

they do not leave , period

go buy a mustang , or an ls s10 , hell an electric skateboard holeshots better

there are some stupidly amazing quick subarus out there but imho , not the right car to start with for drag racing , and if you dial it in for that you throw away all the other things that actually make the pos Subaru good

I like cars that do everything at least decently

and subarus can

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p.s. but wait there's more . I drag raced a lot years ago and decided it was pretty damn stupid to spend cubic more dollars to go quicker only to have fun for less time .. totally oxymoron
Hey - did you pocket dial me today or did you forget that you were calling me and start talking to someone else?

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Old 09-26-2019, 12:22 AM   #42
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drag racing a Subaru is like shooting yourself in the foot if you want to go drag racing

they do not leave , period

go buy a mustang , or an ls s10 , hell an electric skateboard holeshots better

there are some stupidly amazing quick subarus out there but imho , not the right car to start with for drag racing , and if you dial it in for that you throw away all the other things that actually make the pos Subaru good

I like cars that do everything at least decently

and subarus can

rant over






p.s. but wait there's more . I drag raced a lot years ago and decided it was pretty damn stupid to spend cubic more dollars to go quicker only to have fun for less time .. totally oxymoron
Years ago i had a sig that said "building a subaru for drag racing makes as much sense as building a corvette for rallying".
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Old 09-27-2019, 08:30 PM   #43
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Default Smaller turbo for low end power

Go with a smaller turbo that gives you a faster spool
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