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Old 03-10-2015, 11:56 AM   #1151
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The motor would likely let go long before the turbo tops out.
What's your plan at that point? Closed deck? Sleeves?
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Old 03-10-2015, 12:03 PM   #1152
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Update from last night.

Filled it up with E85. I think it was $1.79 or so. Turns out my fuel level sensor wasn't ruined, I just had really low fuel in the tank. Once I filled it up it's back to normal. Good to get a full tank of fresh fuel into the car. I'm right around 190k on the odometer. The car is surprisingly quiet for a <1ft long exhaust. Sounds similar to a GD with no axleback or even a big coffee can exhaust.

We went and did some tuning and got going pretty well. It's siting a little over 30psi right now. Seems to be making similar power to what my 2011 WRX with 6266 made. I want to do a few more pulls before posting anything though. Powerband looks very similar to the 60-1 setup I just took off the car, but the power is great everywhere.



After tuning there was coolant sprayed all over the engine bay. We found out that the alternator pulley had cut the upper radiator hose. I didn't cut it down when I installed the new radiator. NF had a set of Samco hoses in stock so we swapped the hoses and re-burped the system.

Car is pulling strong and even got the speed checked with some government certified equipment on the way home. -_-
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Old 03-10-2015, 12:04 PM   #1153
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This morning I took my daughter to daycare with it and then drove it into work

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Old 03-10-2015, 12:05 PM   #1154
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What's your plan at that point? Closed deck? Sleeves?
Probably?
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Old 03-10-2015, 01:41 PM   #1155
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I can't believe how low-key the car looks when it's all buttoned up. Excellent work, xluben.
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Old 03-10-2015, 01:45 PM   #1156
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Good job man love the way it looks if you were to pull up along the drivers side it looks like a stock 02 wrx!!
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Old 03-10-2015, 01:47 PM   #1157
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I can't believe how low-key the car looks when it's all buttoned up. Excellent work, xluben.
Thanks!

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Good job man love the way it looks if you were to pull up along the drivers side it looks like a stock 02 wrx!!
No scoop or wing. It looks like an RS! Haha.
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Old 03-10-2015, 04:45 PM   #1158
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This morning I took my daughter to daycare with it and then drove it into work
Little do all those other kiddies know, her dad had the fastest car in the parking lot haha.

Loving the sleeper look.
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:52 PM   #1159
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Little do all those other kiddies know, her dad had the fastest car in the parking lot haha.

Loving the sleeper look.
Well all the other cars are Camry's and minivan's so it's not too hard...
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Old 03-10-2015, 05:56 PM   #1160
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The fact that it's so stock-ish looking to the untrained eyes is hilarious.
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Old 03-10-2015, 06:36 PM   #1161
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Thanks!


No scoop or wing. It looks like an RS! Haha.
Yeah i love a good sleeper been contemplating a scoopless hood for the forester but kinda like the way the SH scoop looks. Did you go with the gen 2 6266?
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Old 03-10-2015, 07:44 PM   #1162
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The fact that it's so stock-ish looking to the untrained eyes is hilarious.
It does have black headlights and 04 tail lights.

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Yeah i love a good sleeper been contemplating a scoopless hood for the forester but kinda like the way the SH scoop looks. Did you go with the gen 2 6266?
I like the flat hood look. My turbo is the Gen 1 6266.
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Old 03-10-2015, 08:51 PM   #1163
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It sure looks like a sleeper but probably loud af. How loud is the car while idling?
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:29 PM   #1164
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I want a ride. I'll give you a ride in my car with your old 60-1 lol
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Old 03-10-2015, 09:42 PM   #1165
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It sure looks like a sleeper but probably loud af. How loud is the car while idling?
Uhh. It's definitely pretty loud. Like as loud as an N1 or louder. It's not crazy loud like open headers though.

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I want a ride. I'll give you a ride in my car with your old 60-1 lol
OK, sounds like a fair trade! 60-1 will be a lot of fun!
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Old 03-11-2015, 08:43 AM   #1166
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I took some photos last night.







And I did an exhaust video and grabbed this screenshot.

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Old 03-11-2015, 09:24 AM   #1167
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fake lense flare is fake

This build is awesome!
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Old 03-11-2015, 09:32 AM   #1168
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Which shots/flare don't you like?
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Old 03-11-2015, 09:35 AM   #1169
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I'm jk, the exhaust flame kinda looks like a lens flare
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Old 03-11-2015, 09:42 AM   #1170
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Oh, OK. That one isn't fake. No fake lens flares on this set. The flame was just a backfire when I let off. That is just a screenshot from the video I took.
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Old 03-11-2015, 11:42 AM   #1171
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FogTurbo Bugeye | 2002 WRX | Exhaust Video | NF Performance

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Old 03-11-2015, 01:59 PM   #1172
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Sounds amazing!
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Old 03-12-2015, 12:57 PM   #1173
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Here's a dump from my Proven Power Bragging thread.

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Event: Road Dyno Pull
Location: MN
Ambient Temp: 60F
Elevation: ~1,000ft
Weather: Sunny and Clear
Tires: 205/60R16 Blizzak WS70 Tires on OEM 2002 WRX Wheels

Car: 2002 WRX Sedan
Tuner: Nuke @ NF Performance
Tuning Software: COBB AP
Dyno Info: Virtual Dyno - Dynojet
Transmission: 2012 STI 6 Speed
Gear: 3rd
Peak HP at RPM: 577 WHP @ 5,500 RPM
Peak Torque at RPM: 578 WTQ @ 5,000 RPM
Baseline hp/tq for a stock on same dyno: ~185WHP Stock
Target Boost: 31psi
Target AFR: 11's
Fuel: E85

577WHP / 578WTQ @ 26psi on E85



Full Build Thread:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2528768

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  • OEM 2012 STI 2.5L Case
  • OEM 2012 STI Heads
  • OEM STI Nitrided Crank
  • OEM STI 11mm Oil Pump
  • OEM STI Gasket Set
  • CP 99.75mm 8.2:1 Pistons
  • Manley Turbo Tuff I Beam Rods
  • ACL Rod and Main Bearings
  • ARP Head Studs
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  • Torque Solution Motor Mounts
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  • TurboSmart 40mm EWG
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  • OEM 2012 STI 6MT
  • OEM 2004 STI Driveshaft
  • OEM STI R180 Rear Diff Flange
  • OEM 2002 WRX R160 - Welded
  • Anarchy Motive Shift Knob
  • Kartboy Short Shifter
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  • Karboy Rear Shifter Bushings
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  • ACT HD Pressure Plate
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  • OEM 2002 WRX Wheels (Winter)
  • 205/60R16 Blizzak WS70 Tires (Winter)
  • OEM 2004 STI Wheels (Summer)
  • 235/45R17 Federal 595 RS-R Tires (Summer)
  • 02 WRX Struts
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  • MapDCCD Differential Controller
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The first comparison I did was against my last setup. Kinugawa TD06H 60-1. KillerB header, EWG, etc. Very much the same except the turbo and the low mount header modification. I also added more fuel, but the 60-1 hadn't run into any issues running out of fuel. Wheels and tires are the same as well.

The 6266 setup has a very similar powerband, but makes more power all over (boost is slightly higher up top). It's a solid 60WHP gain from 5,000 rpm's on up to redline. The 60-1 is a 59.5mm compressor vs. the 62mm of the new setup. The slightly larger turbo on this setup is coming on at the same time, but making more power.



Next comparison I did was against one of the 3rd gear logs that I had from my 2011 WRX rotated 6266 setup. A lot of differences from the 2002 WRX. Heavier car, no cams, has AVCS, smaller intercooler, stock fuel rails, intake into the fender, more intercooler piping, plastic intake manifold, KillerB header vs Fobia 1.5 scroll, etc, etc.

The powerband is very, very different. Surprisingly the S1 cams and no AVCS is making a lot more midrange and tons more torque. I assume all the other differences are combining to make a vastly different power curve. The 2011 has boost coming on sooner, but power is later, and peak toque is way lower.



Virtual Dyno takes into account the car's weight and gives a power number. So even those these made the same peak power, I am sure the 2002 is actually quicker due to the weight being a few hundred pounds less. So I plotted out the 50-90mph range from the logs I used for the Virtual Dyno plots. The new setup beats out the 2011 pretty easily and the 2002 WRX with 60-1 actually passes up the 2011 before 85mph.



The last plot I have right now is a 1-2-3-4 pull. My GoPro isn't working so this was my best option for getting a 50-100 mph time. Based on this log (using 2-3-4th) the time is right around 4 seconds flat. I think I can get this a little lower with better shifting or starting in 3rd. But even where it is now it is already quicker than either of the other two setups.

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Old 03-12-2015, 01:45 PM   #1174
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Here is a speedo video of a couple pulls. 1-2-3-4th and then 3-4th.


I took a look at the 50-100mph times. The pull with just 3rd and 4th appears a hair quicker in the video. The 1-2-3-4 had a couple fairly slow shifts that didn't help. According to the logs that I charted out below they are both in the 3.9 second range, but the video shows a little more of a difference. Overall they are both very close.

50-100mph:
Pull #1 (All Gears): 4.0 sec
Pull #2 (3rd & 4th): 3.9 sec

Here are the plots. Both pulls are up to around 120mph and it's very even all the way. The first two plots are the pulls individually and the third plot is both of those on the same chart. For the fourth chart I went and pulled the log from the 10.9 @ 128mph run and plotted it against the first plot (1-2-3-4). The 6266 is about 2/3 of a second faster from 50-120mph.

1-2-3-4 Plot:



3-4 Plot:



50-120mph Comparison (1-2-3-4 vs. 3-4):



50-120mph Comparison (6266 vs. 60-1):

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Old 03-13-2015, 12:05 AM   #1175
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xluben, just going off the vids and plot, lower your shift points ~500RPMs. Looks like you're go a wee bit beyond the meat of the curve. Assuming it gets back on boost as fast, you might up a bit.
I gave it a shot tonight. Did a few runs shifting around 7,000rpm's.


50-100mph (7k Shift Point):
Pull #1: 4.14 sec
Pull #2: 3.93 sec
Pull #3: 3.91 sec

First run I started the pull way too close to 50mph. Probably around 45mph with no brake boosting. The turbo wasn't fully spooled until about 1/2 second in so that hurt the time. Ended up being about 2/10th's slower than the other tries.

The other two runs were clean. One was shifted at 7,000 and the other at about 6,750. All the runs landed right back in the powerband after the shift and boost kept up as well as normal, so that wasn't an issue.

But the times ended up looking nearly identical to when I was shifting higher (around 7,700). About 3.9 seconds. I felt like I had pretty quick shifts for these runs (wearing flip flops like normal, haha).



Got gas afterwards. Blew through a tank this week. I've been driving it to work and back every day. Didn't get very good gas mileage, but I think the number of pulls I've done hasn't helped that...

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