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Old 08-19-2015, 03:03 PM   #1
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Default Manzo Subaru STI Equal Length header

Ok, so about a year and a half ago I started this thread: CNT performance Subaru STI Equal Length header

I feel that thread was very productive and as a result, CNT's $299 EL header is sold out and has been for months. So........ I started looking on eBay and I came across Manzo. It claims to be a company based in the good ol' US of A. Nothing like supporting America, right?

On first blush, it looks like total and complete crap. But, the headers run $160 ($155 on eBay with free shipping). I am curious if anyone has run these, OR - in the alternative - is brave enough to pick some up and test them out?

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Old 08-20-2015, 07:13 PM   #2
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I have one sitting in my garage for 3 years now, bought it for my wife's bug eye, life happened, finally getting around to installing it within the next few months on my bug eye now. It's the EXACT same as the M2 header. I don't expect it to last for long, but I loved the sound of the elh I put on my first bug eye 7-8 years ago and thought I'd give it a shot. I'll certainly keep everybody posted in this thread
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Old 08-20-2015, 09:21 PM   #3
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Awesome! Please keep us posted. What is the "M2"?
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Old 08-22-2015, 03:55 PM   #4
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m2 is a brand, like manzo. I'm reasonably sure manzo= American arm of M2, which is ultimately a CKO brand. I'm gonna see if I can strong arm my wife into giving me the night off to install this with my used catless helix up pipe...
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Old 08-22-2015, 04:28 PM   #5
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Will you please please post some up close pictures of your header? I know the welds aren't pretty but more pics the better. Also if you have a snake cam I'd love to see what the 4-1 collector looks like inside.
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I'll do what I can, but it's a 4-2-1 header, not a 4-1.
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I installed a Manzo down pipe on an A3. It was $60 I believe. Initial appearance was okay. Welds looked good. The flange on the turbo side was cheap but functional. Fitment was bad. Had to mod the exhaust mounting bracket and open up some bolt holes for more tolerance. The V band clamp that came with it was junk. Same as the gaskets. But for under $100 not bad.
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Installed the header on Saturday night/Sunday morning with a helix catless up. Decatted the downs and did a mechanical MIL defeat. Other than having an exhaust leak at the catback due to my short sightedness (read didn't purchase new donut gasket) everything is perfect. The sound is incredible. And as expected it runs much more smoothly. Cruising around town is done in 5th @40 and 4th @30 with no sensation of lugging the engine. Header fit PERFECTLY. I don't mean, had to wiggle some things here and here or trim alittle of something, I mean dead nuts perfectly. I'll be in touch with developments as they occur. Sorry, no pics.
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Grrrrrr... Pics!
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But thanks for the update!
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Fair warning: the flex joints WILL fail.

I have a four inch long piece I pulled out of the exhaust side of my old TD04.

It's your money, time and effort. I would recommend against this header from personal experience.

You have been warned. It is not the same as the Fujitsubo. Not even close.
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Yep. I read your review, and appreciate the honest feedback and warning. This kid is like every other mod, you're taking a risk, and I accept that. I knew going into an eBay header there would be risks.
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any updates on the headers? wondering how they've held up
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No comment on the header but, I had a Manzo catback on our Forester XT and was pleased. Quality was pretty nice at that price point. Basically a COBB knockoff.
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One year update. So far so good. Nbd.
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i hAve had a few friends get this and the header cracked after a year.. you get what you pay for. i think its an OK part for the price for a year but wouldn't use it on my car.
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do you have to change the oil pan to fit this header?
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Nope. No oil pan change required. Still working fine here...
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Hey guys, got this header to chop up and save time fabricating a twin-scroll rotated setup. Here's my copy and paste review of the header (first impressions). I paid $183 shipped.

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Don't expect it to be anything other than what it is...
It is what it is, an eBay, sub-$200 EL header. It's not too horrible (not as horrible as I expected it to be). Some of the welds are pretty nice (all TIG), a little blobbular but good heat input. The bends are nice and the whole thing is polished and looks good but there's some sheisty stuff (in particular at the collector at the up-pipe flange).

Fitment was not great, had to force it over the studs on one side because it was a little too narrow, but it does fit. As I said above, there's some (ugly) metal sticking out of the up-pipe flange with funky welds.

The good news is that I got it to cut apart to save time and material costs to fabricate a custom setup so it works out great and the part I need will work perfectly for what I need so I'm happy with it.

I would only recommend it to someone who won't be afraid to take an angle grinder and/or welder to it if they need to.



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Hey guys, got this header to chop up and save time fabricating a twin-scroll rotated setup. Here's my copy and paste review of the header (first impressions). I paid $183 shipped.

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Don't expect it to be anything other than what it is...
It is what it is, an eBay, sub-$200 EL header. It's not too horrible (not as horrible as I expected it to be). Some of the welds are pretty nice (all TIG), a little blobbular but good heat input. The bends are nice and the whole thing is polished and looks good but there's some sheisty stuff (in particular at the collector at the up-pipe flange).

Fitment was not great, had to force it over the studs on one side because it was a little too narrow, but it does fit. As I said above, there's some (ugly) metal sticking out of the up-pipe flange with funky welds.

The good news is that I got it to cut apart to save time and material costs to fabricate a custom setup so it works out great and the part I need will work perfectly for what I need so I'm happy with it.

I would only recommend it to someone who won't be afraid to take an angle grinder and/or welder to it if they need to.




Ive had one of those on my car for the last 6 years.... seems to hold up just fine, I had to remove the flex joints though.. I'll try to get a pic
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It's a great design for balanced flow, but the merges are prone to cracking, even with the flex joints. If it was made with a cast set of collectors and some oem style flex joints, it would be a great header.

I ran one a few years back.
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Coming up on 3 years, nothing to report. The header is still headering like it should.
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Inevitable happened yesterday. Nasty noises. I’ll look into it and report back blown flex probably...
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The wire braid around the flex is completely gone and it’s leaking at the forward joint if the flex. Whomp whomp...
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