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Old 07-30-2019, 11:41 AM   #1
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News Subaru Sells Two-Millionth Forester In The U.S.




Subaru of America, Inc. today announced the two-millionth sale of its iconic Forester SUV in the U.S. The companyís consistent annual sales growth helped Forester achieve the milestone in under a third of the time that it took to reach the one-millionth sale set in June 2013.

The two-millionth Forester was sold at Rugeís Subaru in Rhinebeck, New York, to Brian Gerber, a repeat Subaru customer. After taking delivery of his new Forester, Gerber was greeted by Kristin Ruge Hutchins, president of Rugeís Subaru, along with facility staff and Barron Butler and James Foley from Subaru Distributors Corp.

A pillar in their local business community since 1935, the Ruge family is now in its third-generation of ownership at its Subaru store. As part of its Love Promise commitment, Rugeís Subaru works with Northern Dutchess Hospital and the local Meals on Wheels.

Known for its large capacity with a small footprint, the Forester was added to the Subaru line-up in 1997. The first-generation Forester was an alternative for customers who wanted the same performance and versatility as the Outback, but in a smaller vehicle. The Forester came standard with many of the same features as its larger counterpart, including a 2.5-liter BOXER engine, Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive and 7.5 inches of ground clearance. The Forester was marketed with the advertising tagline, "Sport Utility Tough, Car Easy.Ē

The small SUV has won numerous awards, including Motor Trend SUV of the Year in 2009 and 2014. Forester has also been an Insurance Institute for Highway Safety (IIHS) Top Safety Pick for 13 years running. Renowned for its reliability, 97 percent of Foresters sold in the last ten years are still on the road today (1).

The all-new 2019 Forester offers the most advanced safety, features, design and capability in its 22-year history, and comes standard with Subaruís legendary Symmetrical All-Wheel Drive and award-winning EyeSight Driver Assist technology. e fifth-generation Forester earned the IIHS Top Safety Pick+ award, the highest possible safety rating from IIHS, when equipped with Steering Responsive Headlights. e 2019 Forester is offered in five trim levels and has a starting price of $24,295.

On July 2, Subaru of America reported its 91st consecutive month of year-over-year sales increases, which included the 71st consecutive month of more than 10,000 Foresters sold.

ďSubaru has achieved 11 consecutive years of sales growth in the United States with Forester as a key driver of that success,Ē said Thomas J. Doll, President and CEO of Subaru of America, Inc. ďAccomplishing this milestone reflects our commitment to providing customers with vehicles made to the highest standards of safety, capability and reliability.Ē

(1) Based on IHS Markit U.S. vehicles in operation vs. total new registrations in the Non-Luxury Compact CUV segment for MY2009Ė2018 ending in December 2018.

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I'd like to test drive a 2019 to see how different it is from our 2017. I'm afraid I might like it too much though and we definitely do not need a new car now.
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Gen 2 forever. Owned 2 of them. They prolly weren't the best subjectively nor sales juggernauts of the bunch but they were worth every penny of fun and function I could throw at them.
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Gen 2 forever. Owned 2 of them. They prolly weren't the best subjectively nor sales juggernauts of the bunch but they were worth every penny of fun and function I could throw at them.
And I feel the same way parked among other SUVs. And I appreciate its size then... despite the subjective size in my garage. It was such a stark hugeality that made me trade my '14 FXTT for a WRX... then after two of those I grew a distaste for their bubble tops.

I guess my '05 LGT spoiled me forever.

Thus, I gave up. If the market only offered bloated, I may as well have an SUV and WRX combined... thus FXT. With that now gone the pill is almost too tough to swallow anymore.........
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Gen 2 forever. Owned 2 of them. They prolly weren't the best subjectively nor sales juggernauts of the bunch but they were worth every penny of fun and function I could throw at them.
I was between my 06 wrx wagon and an 07 forester xt; I wanted the forester more, I planned on dropping it, but it would have basically been a squared out wrx wagon; more usable space and all that jazz without giving up too much in the way of performance; fast brick FTW. Dealer wouldn't deal, so I wound up with the wrx.
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Old 07-30-2019, 01:33 PM   #6
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My lowered bug wagon was too small. Lowered Legacy wagon was too slow. Lowered Forester XT just right. Perfect toast every time.
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They sold more than 900k of Gen4?? Wow... Now that's a hit!
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Gen 2 forever. Owned 2 of them. They prolly weren't the best subjectively nor sales juggernauts of the bunch but they were worth every penny of fun and function I could throw at them.
Yep, I owned an 04 XS Premium and it was by far the best Subaru I've owned. Perfect size, perfect ergonomics, excellent performance on/off road. They haven't really made anything like it since then sadly. Sure the Crosstrek is "similar" in size and whatnot, but it doesn't have any of the charm of that gen Forester.

I really liked how it felt like I was driving a "car" and not a SUV. Same with my current Outback - definitely more wagon feeling than SUV and I really enjoy that aspect of it. I hate the feeling these new crossovers give where they make you feel like you're in a 4Runner or something despite not being any more capable off road than a Camry. Just make them feel like the cars that they really are.
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I regret selling my 08 FXT Sport 5MT. Best value Subie I ever owned. Idiot youth I was.

Idiot youth I is!
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I'd like to test drive a 2019 to see how different it is from our 2017. I'm afraid I might like it too much though and we definitely do not need a new car now.
My dealer gave me a 19 Touring with all the fun gadgets and gizmos, while my STI's radio was being replaced, I liked it!! I'm a sucker for the newest, latest and greatest displays and what not. Wanted my wife to upgrade after driving my wife's 14 FXTT and the 19 Touring back to back. I dont think we'll ever get rid of her FXTT though.
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.....despite not being any more capable off road than a Camry. Just make them feel like the cars that they really are.
Not claiming they are rock climbing gods or anything; but, this statement has me believing you are just doing it wrong.
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Camry vs Forester would be a funny comparison video to watch.
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Not claiming they are rock climbing gods or anything; but, this statement has me believing you are just doing it wrong.
Maybe not with a new Forester, but for the 50 million other lifted cars that manufacturers sell I'm not wrong. I'd like to see what an Chevy Equinox, Ford Ecosport, or Dodge Journey does offroad compared to a Camry. I'd imagine it wouldn't be much different.
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Maybe not with a new Forester, but for the 50 million other lifted cars that manufacturers sell I'm not wrong. I'd like to see what an Chevy Equinox, Ford Ecosport, or Dodge Journey does offroad compared to a Camry. I'd imagine it wouldn't be much different.
Ah. OK. Yeah. Subaru did a new roller test with the new Outback and addressed an issue I had with the one they did after the LCVT was introduced and people were criticizing power distribution. That one never put just one rear wheel with traction. This new one does. I don't know when that video will be online or not. I know it doesn't matter for 95%+ of customers in every day real life situations; but, it's an "eye opener" when I show it to people when comparing to the competition.
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So have they said what version of the CVT the OB and Legacy are getting? I can't see them offering different version based on the 2.4T or 2.5NA.

Anyone put the Ascent on the rollers or a dyno for that matter?

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Ah. OK. Yeah. Subaru did a new roller test with the new Outback and addressed an issue I had with the one they did after the LCVT was introduced and people were criticizing power distribution. That one never put just one rear wheel with traction. This new one does. I don't know when that video will be online or not. I know it doesn't matter for 95%+ of customers in every day real life situations; but, it's an "eye opener" when I show it to people when comparing to the competition.
So can you now hop a curb in a CVT powered Subaru then? That's good news at least, definitely one of the most disappointing changes with the CVT. The 4EAT replacement was absolutely overdue, but I still feel like they've lessened the offroad credibility when they went to the CVT since they also got rid of a lot of the mechanical-ness of the AWD system at the same time. I guess now they've gotten better programming to help make up for that in the previous generations.
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Honest how much curb-hopping are people doing? Never once in my life have I ever considered it a necessity, nor heard of anyone else needing it, except for maybe two people on this forum.

It's a fascinating deal-breaker if I do say so myself, which I does.
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With this much sales numbers...wish they can bring back the XT trim....
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^^^ yup, me too ^^^
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Honest how much curb-hopping are people doing? Never once in my life have I ever considered it a necessity, nor heard of anyone else needing it, except for maybe two people on this forum.

It's a fascinating deal-breaker if I do say so myself, which I does.
I personally think of it as a "what if" scenario and losing that ability compared to the older ones is a bad thing. Sure, you don't NEED to hop a curb 99.99% of the time...but the .01% is what you gun for. Same goes for buying a Subaru or any AWD vehicle in general. You don't NEED AWD to commute to work from your suburban house to your office on salted and plowed roads, a generic FWD car with proper tires is more than enough. It's for the .01% of the time or the unexpected which is why you buy something like this anyways.

So that being said, if I'm choosing to buy an AWD vehicle...it better be able to do whatever I want it to do and the newest ones should not have less ability than the previous generation. That's the complaint, moreso than actually hopping curbs on a daily basis.
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I personally think of it as a "what if" scenario and losing that ability compared to the older ones is a bad thing. Sure, you don't NEED to hop a curb 99.99% of the time...but the .01% is what you gun for. Same goes for buying a Subaru or any AWD vehicle in general. You don't NEED AWD to commute to work from your suburban house to your office on salted and plowed roads, a generic FWD car with proper tires is more than enough. It's for the .01% of the time or the unexpected which is why you buy something like this anyways.

So that being said, if I'm choosing to buy an AWD vehicle...it better be able to do whatever I want it to do and the newest ones should not have less ability than the previous generation. That's the complaint, moreso than actually hopping curbs on a daily basis.

Oh, I don't know about the curb test. I need to take the new Forester out to check that. I have to agree that wouldn't ever be on my mind as it does come down to that .01%. All it takes is a touch of momentum and it's a non-issue. ONLY when I was butted up against the curb and fully stopped(and it was a high curb) did it have an issue. I move up 1 inch and rolled back to it and it went over no problem. It will be interesting to see if the newer ones are better. I hadn't thought of it in a while.
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Itís the off road capability part of it thatís affected. Sometimes backing down a grade to find traction and a new line is the only way up. If there are ruts and obstacles behind as there are ahead, well, youíre stuck.

The press release of the new Outback says it has dual function X Mode. Perhaps this fixed the issue?
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You can have the marketing department make up whatever term they want. Super triple X-mode. If you canít transfer power you canít transfer power.

Why market an outdoorsy adventure vehicle that needs a technique to get over a curb?

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If the function was locked out electronically unlocking it doesnít seem like a big deal. Especially if they added logic traction modes. Iím still bummed thereís no VTD tho.
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You can have the marketing department make up whatever term they want. Super triple X-mode. If you canít transfer power you canít transfer power.

Why market an outdoorsy adventure vehicle that needs a technique to get over a curb?

Peace,

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This video showed off the difference between the X-Modes and standard AWD pretty well. 14 minute timestamp for X-mode explained by Subaru engineer, and test driving soon after:
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