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Old 05-28-2015, 07:52 AM   #76
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APR's running prowess isn't the issue but rather their business practices. I wish Cobb would get their act together and jump in the VW market....APR would have to straighten up (or die)
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Old 05-28-2015, 09:57 AM   #77
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APR's running prowess isn't the issue but rather their business practices. I wish Cobb would get their act together and jump in the VW market....APR would have to straighten up (or die)
GIAC isn't a VW tuning option where you are?
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:16 AM   #78
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Nope....only one dealer in VA, 2.5hrs away. There is one up in MD, about an hour away. Besides, I already bit the bullet and paid for the APR tune last month before reading more info on how the pricing has changed significantly since the sale of the company.
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:33 AM   #79
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a 996tt would be sweet, and once the bearing is replaced the engine would be pretty bulletproof.
others have pointed out the TT/GT2/GT3 variants dont have this problem, but, simply replacing the OEM IMS bearing will not fix the inherent design flaw of those engines.

In the TT/GT2/GT3 variants Porsche actually used the 964 IMS/Bearing - it is a 'flat' style bearing that is fed oil from the engine. In all of the other variants of the 996 engines they had to use sealed ball bearing units that arent fed engine oil due to the 'cost saving' measure of not casting in oilways to feed the bearing.

Unless you use something like LN Engineering's retrofit kit (they have developed hybrid ceramic bearing that doesnt fail but if it did it would fail like the flat bearing in the 964/996TT/GT2/GT3 engines which results in sloppy play of the IMS and not ball bearings falling out of their cups and playing ping-pong against the inside of an engine case) the new OEM bearing will fail again.
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:38 AM   #80
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is that a 996 issue only? IIRC, my buddy's 997 GT3 RS had issues too and the motor replaced at 6k miles.
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:54 AM   #81
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IMS/Bearing issues are normally ascribed to 2000-2008 996/997 cars. by 2008 Porsche had updated the bearing. it doesnt fail nearly as often but cars that arent driven hard/enough seem to have higher rates of failure

GT3 engines in specific have coolant pipe issues. This is a turbo coolant pipe but it illustrates the issue nicely.


the glue that holds the press fit hose barbs, after being heat cycled on the track, lets go. this dumps coolant over the rear wheels and causes the car to run into things easily, like walls at Road America

I've seen some 997 GT3 RS's (Non 4.0L cars that have dropped some valves maybe thats what happened to your friends car)

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Old 05-28-2015, 11:55 AM   #82
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no ims shaft in any gt3 variant (not sure about 991 though)


Aschen eagerly awaits 40k 997TTs, if the day ever comes
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Old 05-28-2015, 11:57 AM   #83
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yeah not sure why nobody seems to mention teh coolant pipes, in the context of "bulletproof" metzger engines


The fix is pretty involved right? split the case for welding?
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Old 05-28-2015, 12:14 PM   #84
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My VW has more torque than your TTRS stock for stock, and it's dead sexy.


am I missing the joke here?
and why does it look like the back tire is rolling off on its own toward the front?
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Old 05-28-2015, 12:19 PM   #85
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no ims shaft in any gt3 variant (not sure about 991 though)



All 911 engines since the 2.0 have an intermediate shaft, its what drives the camshafts...

heres the PET catalog IMS screen for a 2007 GT3. I can pull the same drawing for all of them. The only difference is in the bearing design. You can see it even has a 959 part number so that particular one has been in use in cars for what ~35 years now?

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Old 05-28-2015, 12:20 PM   #86
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am I missing the joke here?
and why does it look like the back tire is rolling off on its own toward the front?
No? Pointing out there are VWs nicer than the TTRS. He said VWs are for teeny boppers. I'm assuming you actually read what I quoted when I posted it? As to the back tire rolling off, I can only assume you're drunk before noon.
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Old 05-28-2015, 12:27 PM   #87
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others have pointed out the TT/GT2/GT3 variants dont have this problem, but, simply replacing the OEM IMS bearing will not fix the inherent design flaw of those engines.
Got it, I didn't realize the tt didn't have the bearing issue. However, I did mean that the IMS bearing needed to be replaced with an aftermarket alternative. If it was up to me, I'd go with the direct oil feed kit:

http://shop.tunersmotorsports.com/?p...05-early-style
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sorry I R dumb I meant to say problematic intermediate shaft or something to that effect

the problem is journal vs Ball bearing right?

They went back to journal bearings in 2009 ish? Do I have that right or shall I look dumb again
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No? Pointing out there are VWs nicer than the TTRS. He said VWs are for teeny boppers. I'm assuming you actually read what I quoted when I posted it? As to the back tire rolling off, I can only assume you're drunk before noon.
you said "dead sexy".
I was not sure if you had a vision impairment or my leg was being pulled.
I guess I'll go with the first choice since you also cannot see the huge gap behind the rear tire while the front of the tire appears to overlap the trim in the front of the wheel well.
the front wheel looks normal.
the back looks like a bad example of "can someone chop these wheels on this car".
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I guess I'll go with the first choice since you also cannot see the huge gap behind the rear tire while the front of the tire appears to overlap the trim in the front of the wheel well.
the front wheel looks normal.
the back looks like a bad example of "can someone chop these wheels on this car".
Camera angles, how do they work? Sorry my photography is not up to your standards, sir! I'll be sure to use proper lenses and only isometric angles in the future.

Seriously, what the **** is wrong with you?


Oh god, look at that asymmetric wheel gap!
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sorry I R dumb I meant to say problematic intermediate shaft or something to that effect

the problem is journal vs Ball bearing right?

They went back to journal bearings in 2009 ish? Do I have that right or shall I look dumb again
you are not dumb! you nail every Pcar question with 99.9% accuracy

yes the difference is the bearing type and engine oil fed versus sealed. and yup on the 09ish update.
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I've seen some 997 GT3 RS's (Non 4.0L cars that have dropped some valves maybe thats what happened to your friends car)
His was a 2007 and had bearing failure. He ended up having a major off at VIR but don't think it was anything more than him carrying too much speed as he hit hard flush to the wall on the right. $40k fix later and he was back at it.
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Camera angles, how do they work? Sorry my photography is not up to your standards, sir! I'll be sure to use proper lenses and only isometric angles in the future.
do you post a lot in PP ?
because the similarity in angles between the picture of your soccer mom bus and that TTRS is so close, it's uncanny.
I concede; you have surely proven your point.

odd that the effect only manifests itself on the rear wheel, despite the fact that the picture appears to be taken nearly dead on from the side.



in any case - "dead sexy" ?!?

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Seriously, what the **** is wrong with you?
I'm not cross-eyed, I guess?
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Is that a Hyundai Santa Fe?
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do you post a lot in PP ?
because the similarity in angles between the picture of your soccer mom bus and that TTRS is so close, it's uncanny.
I concede; you have surely proven your point.

odd that the effect only manifests itself on the rear wheel, despite the fact that the picture appears to be taken nearly dead on from the side.

See how you can see the tread in profile on the rear tire, but not on the front? That's a visual cue for you as to the angles in question. If it were dead on, you obviously would not see the full width of the tread on the rear tire. Notably, the width of the tread in profile is roughly the same size as the distance you are drawing between the wheel arch center line and wheel center line. Angles, how do they work? Again, sorry the photography is not up to your discerning standards.

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I'm not cross-eyed, I guess?
I don't think it's a problem in your vision, but rather the cognitive part behind it.

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in any case - "dead sexy" ?!?
Taste, how does it work? I think it's an extremely well designed body and a very classy look. The TT I think looks better in base form than the TTRS in terms of 'sexy'. Tell you what, how bout we take the Touareg and your STI and see which one draws more compliments from the womens (or if you're skywaffles, we can look for dudes)

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Tell you what, how bout we take the Touareg and your STI and see which one draws more compliments from the womens
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Tell you what, how bout we take the Touareg and your STI and see which one draws more compliments from the womens
Because it is a chick's car?
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Because it is a chick's car?
You're going to defend the Audi TT with that argument?
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I was more just trying to rustle your jimmies
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Jimmies appear to be rustled, Captain!
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