Welcome to the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club Monday August 26, 2019
Home Forums WikiNASIOC Products Store Modifications Upgrade Garage
NASIOC
Go Back   NASIOC > NASIOC Reviews > Vendor Reviews

Welcome to NASIOC - The world's largest online community for Subaru enthusiasts!
Welcome to the NASIOC.com Subaru forum.

You are currently viewing our forum as a guest, which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our community, free of charge, you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is free, fast and simple, so please join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads. 
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-22-2014, 02:40 PM   #26
J_Jay
Scooby Newbie
Member Sales Rating: (4)
 
Member#: 374618
Join Date: Nov 2013
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Default

From what I can tell they are the same.

A little suspect that he hasn't been around to help clarify any of this.
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
J_Jay is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
Old 01-22-2014, 02:45 PM   #27
besthaticouldo
Scooby Guru
Member Sales Rating: (15)
 
Member#: 279660
Join Date: Apr 2011
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: STL
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by J_Jay View Post
From what I can tell they are the same.

A little suspect that he hasn't been around to help clarify any of this.
He doesn't care. Rather than actually doing the right thing and paying me what he owed me, he screwed me over. Ignored it, this came up. He continues to sell to people, I guess I can only do my part and make sure some people won't buy from him. Hopefully people read reviews and vendor reviews.
besthaticouldo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2014, 03:08 PM   #28
besthaticouldo
Scooby Guru
Member Sales Rating: (15)
 
Member#: 279660
Join Date: Apr 2011
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: STL
Default

Just for what it's worth. Here is the notice of Judgment against him.



Has a judgment against him, earning interest at the maximum legal rate. I need to have a lawyer buddy research this more and levy an account.
besthaticouldo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2014, 03:08 PM   #29
J_Jay
Scooby Newbie
Member Sales Rating: (4)
 
Member#: 374618
Join Date: Nov 2013
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Default

Thank for posting all of this. I know I was lining up to buy some CF bits from him.
J_Jay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2014, 03:12 PM   #30
besthaticouldo
Scooby Guru
Member Sales Rating: (15)
 
Member#: 279660
Join Date: Apr 2011
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: STL
Default

Ha, if anything you guys gave me a bit of spark. Time to pursue this further legally. I'd like my money back.
besthaticouldo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2014, 03:13 PM   #31
1wrxtra
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (4)
 
Member#: 316364
Join Date: Apr 2012
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Vehicle:
2012 WRX

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by besthaticouldo View Post
Ha, if anything you guys gave me a bit of spark. Time to pursue this further legally. I'd like my money back.
You're doing all the hard work

Thanks for the heads up though. Really appreciate it.
1wrxtra is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2014, 03:28 PM   #32
besthaticouldo
Scooby Guru
Member Sales Rating: (15)
 
Member#: 279660
Join Date: Apr 2011
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: STL
Default

I wish I could figure out a way to post the email chain in here. I suppose I could screen shot it and include it.
besthaticouldo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2014, 08:14 PM   #33
Highlander395
Scooby Newbie
Member Sales Rating: (1)
 
Member#: 284327
Join Date: May 2011
Chapter/Region: International
Location: Across the ocean
Vehicle:
2003 STi Prodrive
Blue

Default

Howly ***** (excuse my language..), U just saved me from spending about $500... Since a week I'm trying to get a Mature style diffuser they offer. Up untill now, email response is poor, no real interest in willing to sell a diffuser, let alone short notice.. I would have been well f*cked if I made an order, I don't even live in the USA.. :?
Thank you for sharing this!!! I hope u get your money back!
Highlander395 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-22-2014, 08:15 PM   #34
besthaticouldo
Scooby Guru
Member Sales Rating: (15)
 
Member#: 279660
Join Date: Apr 2011
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: STL
Default

Glad I saved you the money man.

I probably won't get my money back. I really need to go through the court system in CA, but I no longer live there. I may talk to a lawyer buddy of mine in CA and see what he can do for me.
besthaticouldo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 01:14 PM   #35
SpeedMasterLee
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (16)
 
Member#: 78417
Join Date: Dec 2004
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: Torrance, CA
Vehicle:
2005 WRX/STI Stage 2
Aspen White

Default

I also have had a picture of my car used by this guy and his business Forcewerkz. I also want people to know that the picture he is using for the HKS style diffuser is actually my picture of my car with the real JDM HKS diffuser. I just dont want people to think that the one he is selling is the same product.


Here is proof that the picture is of my car. My build thread below:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=2292384
SpeedMasterLee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-29-2014, 01:18 PM   #36
besthaticouldo
Scooby Guru
Member Sales Rating: (15)
 
Member#: 279660
Join Date: Apr 2011
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: STL
Default

^^That's a bummer dude. What do you really expect. He's a huge scammer. He's ripped quite a few people off.

No one calls him out either.
besthaticouldo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2014, 08:22 PM   #37
STiScooby213
Scooby Newbie
Member Sales Rating: (10)
 
Member#: 263036
Join Date: Nov 2010
Chapter/Region: SCIC
Location: Los Angeles
Vehicle:
2005 WRX STi *sold*
2013 PBP WRX STI

Default

I purchased a front lip from this guy a good while back, to this day I still haven't mounted it due to X number of excuses. Thanks to this thread I won't be purchasing any further products from this "vendor".

Thanks for posting your experience OP, I wish you well in your as of yet to be resolved situation.
STiScooby213 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2014, 03:41 PM   #38
J_Jay
Scooby Newbie
Member Sales Rating: (4)
 
Member#: 374618
Join Date: Nov 2013
Chapter/Region: MAIC
Default

Why hasn't anything been done?

Surely the mods can look into this?
J_Jay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-31-2014, 04:24 PM   #39
25rsti
Scooby Guru
Member Sales Rating: (130)
 
Member#: 166324
Join Date: Dec 2007
Chapter/Region: NESIC
Location: BLOD in BLOD out
Default

He used to sell parts in the private section for years under his normal (non vendor account) name as well. He jipped me on something as well.
25rsti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2014, 07:55 PM   #40
StackSmasher
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (6)
 
Member#: 316928
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: TX
Vehicle:
2012 STI limited

Default

Why have the mods done nothing about this guy? With so many complaints about him it should at least be looked into. Or does nasioc value vendor member fees over protecting the community from shady business practices?
StackSmasher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2014, 01:42 AM   #41
heyitzdinny
Scooby Newbie
Member Sales Rating: (6)
 
Member#: 163680
Join Date: Nov 2007
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by StackSmasher View Post
Why have the mods done nothing about this guy? With so many complaints about him it should at least be looked into. Or does nasioc value vendor member fees over protecting the community from shady business practices?
I know right
heyitzdinny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2014, 10:24 AM   #42
besthaticouldo
Scooby Guru
Member Sales Rating: (15)
 
Member#: 279660
Join Date: Apr 2011
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: STL
Default

Got an interesting call last night. From the owner of ForceWerkz. He wanted to clear things up about Jon Vong (jonmotoring) and let me know that he was in no way affiliated with him and that Jon is his own company and he buys from FW. He said that he was going to get a hold of JonMotoring and talk to him and try and get him to set it right. Odds of that are slim though, guy just doing seem to care. Posts on multiple forums, has a ton of bad reviews and no one seems to care.

The guy from ForceWerkz was super nice on the phone, offered me some free parts if I was willing to take his name off of here and help set the record straight. I'm hopefully going to talk to him more tonight and figure it out.
besthaticouldo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-11-2014, 01:50 PM   #43
besthaticouldo
Scooby Guru
Member Sales Rating: (15)
 
Member#: 279660
Join Date: Apr 2011
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: STL
Default

Well "Jack" from ForceWerkz called again. Not as nice this time.

He talked to Jon - got no where. Jon basically said because it's gone so long that it doesn't matter. Well it does matter, it is accruing interest at the legal rate in CA of 10%. So the judgement has gone from $730 to $830 in the 500+ days.

I am not sure who to believe, I've never met Jack in real life and I know for damn sure Jon is a liar. I basically told Jack that I want to be made whole again, whether it's from parts, money, or whatever. Doesn't matter to me. He wants to offer me $150 side skirts, I feel like that's grossly insulting. It's incredibly evident that Jack and Jon have a very very close relationship. They work hand in hand and JonMotoring seems to be one of the only companies carrying ForceWerkz products. So it's obvious if he wants to make this right or apply pressure he could easily do it.

I did about 30 minutes of digging last night. It's not hard to find simple information.

I find it weird that ForceWerkz parts are all made in the US, however they have import licenses for car parts all over the internet. As well as exhaust stuff and racing seats specifically as far as what I can find.

Also found searching around that the same number for ForceWerkz (and the number that Jon gave me) are registered as well to Union Performance according to some other websites. Very interesting, it would appear that there is more than 1 corporation being run by Jack, or Jon. Or whomever, at this point I'm not 100% sure what to believe.

Jack's contention was he was doing be a favor because I wasn't his customer. Which I believe is incorrect, I was told by Jon that he was the owner of ForceWerkz and that they were involved. Which would make me ForceWerkz's (Jack's) customer.

Jack ended the call telling me he'd talk with Jon again. He basically was trying to give me free product to take ForceWerkz name off. Not entirely sure what I should do, but I would like my money back.
besthaticouldo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2014, 08:49 PM   #44
JarHarms
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (50)
 
Member#: 138994
Join Date: Jan 2007
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: DeKalb-ish, IL
Vehicle:
06 WRX Ltd
SGM

Default

Hmm. JonMotoring=UnionPerformnce=ForceWerkz or at very least if not equal then "very" related. Maybe sourcing the non-clone part is starting to look like my better option.

vvvv - Oh jeeze.

Last edited by JarHarms; 04-15-2014 at 10:03 PM.
JarHarms is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2014, 08:49 PM   #45
besthaticouldo
Scooby Guru
Member Sales Rating: (15)
 
Member#: 279660
Join Date: Apr 2011
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: STL
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JarHarms View Post
Hmm. JonMotoring=UnionPerformnce=ForceWerkz or at very least if not equal then "very" related. I was considering a purchase but will probably opt to source a non-cloned part now.
For sure, that's probably not a bad idea. You may spend a bit more, but you'll get a better part.
besthaticouldo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-14-2014, 06:19 PM   #46
jomping777
Scooby Newbie
Member Sales Rating: (0)
 
Member#: 66506
Join Date: Jul 2004
Default

WOW, I normally just get insights by reading and scanning through the forums but this time I will have to post and say THANK YOU. If its any other country that guy will already be in a river, floating or on the side of the road, "HEADLINE NEWS". Anyway hopefully this thing get resolve.. Again thanks for posting this.
jomping777 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2014, 10:37 AM   #47
besthaticouldo
Scooby Guru
Member Sales Rating: (15)
 
Member#: 279660
Join Date: Apr 2011
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: STL
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jomping777 View Post
WOW, I normally just get insights by reading and scanning through the forums but this time I will have to post and say THANK YOU. If its any other country that guy will already be in a river, floating or on the side of the road, "HEADLINE NEWS". Anyway hopefully this thing get resolve.. Again thanks for posting this.
No problem, glad more people are steering clear. Although doesn't seem to matter. They are going along their merry way.
besthaticouldo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2014, 04:57 PM   #48
besthaticouldo
Scooby Guru
Member Sales Rating: (15)
 
Member#: 279660
Join Date: Apr 2011
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: STL
Default

Jon/Jack is quite mad now. Swearing at my through text and stuff. Jack is miraculously the only one that can get a hold of Jon and talk to him....

Here are some screen shots.
Untitled by b3sthaticould0, on Flickr

Untitled by b3sthaticould0, on Flickr

Untitled by b3sthaticould0, on Flickr

Untitled by b3sthaticould0, on Flickr

Untitled by b3sthaticould0, on Flickr

Untitled by b3sthaticould0, on Flickr

Untitled by b3sthaticould0, on Flickr

Untitled by b3sthaticould0, on Flickr

uh oh, it seems as if jon/jack/forcewerkz/jonmotoring/unionperformance don't much like me anymore.
besthaticouldo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2014, 05:28 PM   #49
i50caL
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (7)
 
Member#: 94899
Join Date: Aug 2005
Chapter/Region: MWSOC
Location: Illinois
Vehicle:
91 GTR, 75 S30Z,
97 STI, EVO X?

Default

Badass
i50caL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-15-2014, 05:52 PM   #50
Einbruch
Scooby Newbie
Member Sales Rating: (1)
 
Member#: 383602
Join Date: Mar 2014
Chapter/Region: South East
Location: Knoxville TN
Vehicle:
2017 VW GTI
Dark Blue Mettalic

Default

I know in some states if a judgement isn't served in a certain time frame you can garnish wages. Since he has a "sellers" license he has a state tax ID so they can garnish from that until you are paid in full. I would ask your lawyer for confirmation though, I'm not 100%. He'll get what he deserves one day.
Einbruch is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2019 Axivo Inc.
Copyright ©1999 - 2019, North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club, Inc.