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View Poll Results: Killer B Motorsport 2015 WRX header?
Yes please, must have! 28 65.12%
Nah, I'd rather spen my had earned cash on other stuff 15 34.88%
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Old 05-05-2017, 02:33 PM   #26
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How do you keep making the most powerful headers you can put on a Subaru? Never stop improving! Some of you may already have early versions of our Killer B Motorsport V2 FA20 Headers. Setting the standard for header performance in the Subaru world means you're a target for everyone else, but we don't like second place. What you see here is a collection of cast 321 Stainless Steel collectors, and on an example mated to complete set of 321 Stainless Headers. Castling allows for optimized flow design that simply cannot be obtained with a fabricated tube collector. Casting provides higher strength and long term reliability, compared to a machined collector, because the metal's grain structure is kept intact. Stay tuned, more to come!








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Old 05-12-2017, 02:37 PM   #27
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How do you keep making the most powerful headers you can put on a Subaru? Never stop improving! Some of you may already have early versions of our Killer B Motorsport V2 FA20 Headers. Setting the standard for header performance in the Subaru world means you're a target for everyone else, but we don't like second place. What you see here is a collection of cast 321 Stainless Steel collectors, and on an example mated to complete set of 321 Stainless Headers. Castling allows for optimized flow design that simply cannot be obtained with a fabricated tube collector. Casting provides higher strength and long term reliability, compared to a machined collector, because the metal's grain structure is kept intact. Stay tuned, more to come!
Price reduction, cost reduction, or both?
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Old 05-12-2017, 04:23 PM   #28
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Price reduction, cost reduction, or both?
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If you look at our pricing vs the competition and understand the cost differential when using 321 stainless, you can see our margins are not spectacular. Certainly not as good as out competitors. From the customer's perspective it means the value for this product is very good considering what you're getting for your dollar.

Using the casting saves some time at fit-up, but the tooling costs mean we won't break even for years. I'm in it for the long haul as I believe the FA will be around for years beyond that (fingers crossed).
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Old 05-12-2017, 04:44 PM   #29
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If you look at our pricing vs the competition and understand the cost differential when using 321 stainless, you can see our margins are not spectacular. Certainly not as good as out competitors. From the customer's perspective it means the value for this product is very good considering what you're getting for your dollar.

Using the casting saves some time at fit-up, but the tooling costs mean we won't break even for years. I'm in it for the long haul as I believe the FA will be around for years beyond that (fingers crossed).
Totally fair, it was more out of curiosity. Headers are kind of your halo product anyways. I wasn't sure how much work went into the coping cuts on the tube merge.
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Old 05-12-2017, 09:42 PM   #30
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Totally fair, it was more out of curiosity.
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Headers are kind of your halo product anyways.
Actually oiling products are, but I do have a profound fascination with fluid dynamics.

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I wasn't sure how much work went into the coping cuts on the tube merge.
The cuts are a pain, but not bad once you get tooled-up for them. What I don't like about tube collectors is the significant amount of variability due to the fabrication process. That and you just can't fabricate a decent high velocity merge from tube, or at least not without some fairly exotic forming capabilities. The casting also assures the merge is super sooth on the inside.
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Old 05-12-2017, 10:22 PM   #31
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Actually oiling products are, but I do have a profound fascination with fluid dynamics.
I mean like it's your high dollar item that you don't make for profit, but rather to show off engineering and manufacturing chops. Oiling is your bread and butter. Think Veyron for VW.
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Old 05-13-2017, 08:54 AM   #32
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I mean like it's your high dollar item that you don't make for profit, but rather to show off engineering and manufacturing chops. Oiling is your bread and butter. Think Veyron for VW.
I'm following you now, and would agree. It's been a long week.
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Old 10-22-2017, 12:07 PM   #33
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What’s the expected time frame for these to ship? EWG version with coating
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Old 11-05-2017, 10:04 AM   #34
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What’s the expected time frame for these to ship? EWG version with coating
We've got our lead-time down to ~3 weeks and hope to get that down even more by the end of the year.

Swain Tech on the other hand is a 3 week process, plus shipping, usually adds about a month to the lead-time. It performs awesome if your budget and time-line permit.
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