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Old 11-16-2017, 04:33 PM   #176
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Old 11-16-2017, 04:47 PM   #177
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Are you sure someone didn't sneak another brand up pipe on there? Their metal quality and fab work are top notch.
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Old 11-16-2017, 04:51 PM   #178
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Are you sure someone didn't sneak another brand up pipe on there? Their metal quality and fab work are top notch.
I had Prime Motoring order the parts and install them. And they haven't anything like to anything else...so yes I am 100% sure that this is not any other brand. I even posted this on IG and tagged them in it. So we will see. in the meantime, I am having one made.
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Old 11-16-2017, 04:53 PM   #179
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Found the problem....its way cheaper than I though. The killberb uppipe looks like it took a shotgun blast to the face. I am not going to be replacing it under warranty becasue honestly the uppice was made out of thing ****ty material and you can tell this was after only 32K miles.
That's mil-spec 321, same as required in the aviation industry. I don't know of anyone in the automotive sector (besides race teams) that use it on production products.

You can tell from the pic, the failure happened over time. We see a few of these failures, typically when it gets cold and things get leaner (hotter).

We have since changed the design some and have not seen a failure since. Of course this part would be covered by our warranty if you so decided to go that route. Very sorry you've experienced this, and I'd love to right the wrong if you gave us the chance.
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Old 11-16-2017, 04:55 PM   #180
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I even posted this on IG and tagged them in it.
You'd get a much better response reaching out to us, rather than posting on social/forums.
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Old 11-16-2017, 05:01 PM   #181
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You'd get a much better response reaching out to us, rather than posting on social/forums.
I did both, I sent you guys a pm over on IWSTI few mins ago just as I posted this. I know it has lifetime warranty and I don't have any issues with your product and I know these kinds of things happen and I am doing a different route due to the turnaround time it would be for the new Up-pipe to arrive.
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Old 11-16-2017, 05:25 PM   #182
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I'm running the ACT street disc clutch rated for a little over 500ftlbs and it's fairly stiff for every day use, I could see where it would suck for someone with a leg or foot issue. Have you used one and how would you compare pedal effort to your SB?

I understand they can change the lever angle to make the push easier, but that will also limit pressure plate travel. I wonder if that affects disc service life.

Also, who is doing the fab work? I can't seem to find anyone to fab my exhaust or intercooler piping. Every place I've been referred to in TX deals with Merican cars and basically pushes me away.
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Old 11-16-2017, 05:27 PM   #183
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Glad to see you found the problem and that it is not the turbo.
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Old 11-16-2017, 05:31 PM   #184
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I did both, I sent you guys a pm over on IWSTI few mins ago just as I posted this. I know it has lifetime warranty and I don't have any issues with your product and I know these kinds of things happen and I am doing a different route due to the turnaround time it would be for the new Up-pipe to arrive.
Something like this we turn around in a few days. I completely understand if you're just going to go rotated and would be using a different up-pipe anyway. Although you do have a v-band connection so there would be some fab work regardless. For this purpose, we do offer a DIY up-pipe so you can retain the v-band connection and use a pre-bent piece of 321. This is just another option that's available.
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Old 11-16-2017, 05:38 PM   #185
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Something like this we turn around in a few days. I completely understand if you're just going to go rotated and would be using a different up-pipe anyway. Although you do have a v-band connection so there would be some fab work regardless. For this purpose, we do offer a DIY up-pipe so you can retain the v-band connection and use a pre-bent piece of 321. This is just another option that's available.
Sent you guys a pm.
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Old 11-16-2017, 05:56 PM   #186
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That's mil-spec 321, same as required in the aviation industry. I don't know of anyone in the automotive sector (besides race teams) that use it on production products.

You can tell from the pic, the failure happened over time. We see a few of these failures, typically when it gets cold and things get leaner (hotter).
Would coating or wrapping prevent this, since the temperature fluctuation would be slowed? My up pipe was very recent, so I assume it has the change. It also is swain coated.
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Old 11-16-2017, 09:03 PM   #187
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If they can fab up tubing and weld pipe it shouldn't matter if they work foreign or domestic. They are out there, you just need to find them.

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I'm running the ACT street disc clutch rated for a little over 500ftlbs and it's fairly stiff for every day use, I could see where it would suck for someone with a leg or foot issue. Have you used one and how would you compare pedal effort to your SB?

I understand they can change the lever angle to make the push easier, but that will also limit pressure plate travel. I wonder if that affects disc service life.

Also, who is doing the fab work? I can't seem to find anyone to fab my exhaust or intercooler piping. Every place I've been referred to in TX deals with Merican cars and basically pushes me away.
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Old 11-16-2017, 09:59 PM   #188
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Would coating or wrapping prevent this, since the temperature fluctuation would be slowed? My up pipe was very recent, so I assume it has the change. It also is swain coated.
Yes, but we don't recommend wrap except for nice weather or racing applications only. The wrap tends to cause accelerated corrosion of the metal when it's exposed to daily driving conditions. Swain Tech on the other hand will hold up much better to more conditions types and also protects the surface from oxygen eliminating oxidation of the metal. The other benefit is that the temperatures throughout the part are more evenly distributed reducing the probability of a thermal induced stress failure.
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Old 11-17-2017, 09:33 PM   #189
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That's mil-spec 321, same as required in the aviation industry. I don't know of anyone in the automotive sector (besides race teams) that use it on production products.

You can tell from the pic, the failure happened over time. We see a few of these failures, typically when it gets cold and things get leaner (hotter).

We have since changed the design some and have not seen a failure since. Of course this part would be covered by our warranty if you so decided to go that route. Very sorry you've experienced this, and I'd love to right the wrong if you gave us the chance.

What gauge tubing are these 321 up pipes?
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Old 11-17-2017, 11:28 PM   #190
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Did that break happen where an EWG was attached?
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Old 11-17-2017, 11:39 PM   #191
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Did that break happen where an EWG was attached?
Yes, the EWG was attached....see the video in the previous page to hear how it sounded.
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Old 11-17-2017, 11:40 PM   #192
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Does look like it. Ewg is on his mod list. You think resonation or vibration could have caused stress cracking? Killerb did say they've seen a few.
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Old 11-17-2017, 11:49 PM   #193
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For the record, I am giving killerb the chance to right this wrong. On here and via email their response was apologetic and eager to help me get this fixed. Once again this is the first time I've had any issues with their product and the way I approached the issue wasn't in a professional manner, but nonetheless they didn't waver from being professional in conducting my issue in the best way possible. So I will update once the new parts are received and will post pictures of the new/fixed item/items. Another reason to buy their products over the much lower priced competition....if you can call it that. I truly believe that killerbmotorsports as a company probably have the best products, hence the lifetime warranty (Cough) and the price (cough) and their customer support is top notch, bar none.
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Old 11-18-2017, 10:24 AM   #194
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Does look like it. Ewg is on his mod list. You think resonation or vibration could have caused stress cracking? Killerb did say they've seen a few.
Once we get it in we'll examine it to determine what happened. We've seen a few of these over the years and it always seem to happen in fall when temps drop. One of my theories on this is that EGTs are higher because 'boost season'. Or it could be because the colder temps make for a larger temperature delta between EWG stub and up-pipe. Either way, we've made subtle adjustments to process and design to address this. The failure rate we've seen is still low at less than 2%, but I'd rather have it be as close to zero as possible, which is why we've made some tweaks on our end.

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For the record, I am giving killerb the chance to right this wrong. On here and via email their response was apologetic and eager to help me get this fixed. Once again this is the first time I've had any issues with their product and the way I approached the issue wasn't in a professional manner, but nonetheless they didn't waver from being professional in conducting my issue in the best way possible. So I will update once the new parts are received and will post pictures of the new/fixed item/items. Another reason to buy their products over the much lower priced competition....if you can call it that. I truly believe that killerbmotorsports as a company probably have the best products, hence the lifetime warranty (Cough) and the price (cough) and their customer support is top notch, bar none.
Appreciate the opportunity to right the issue
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Changed the ethanol sensor out and the sparkplugs cause it was breaking up bad on the dyno....now she is running smooth.
Did you go with same sparks plugs from your original tune?
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Old Yesterday, 02:46 PM   #196
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Sweet build and very inspiring. Going to be soon taking a route almost similar to yours. There will be ups and downs, but it's comforting to see professionals take the right approach to things. Subbed!! And thanks for your service!
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Found the problem....its way cheaper than I though. The killberb uppipe looks like it took a shotgun blast to the face. I am not going to be replacing it under warranty becasue honestly the uppice was made out of thing ****ty material and you can tell this was after only 32K miles.
WOW looks bad.
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Old Today, 05:32 PM   #198
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Did you go with same sparks plugs from your original tune?
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Sweet build and very inspiring. Going to be soon taking a route almost similar to yours. There will be ups and downs, but it's comforting to see professionals take the right approach to things. Subbed!! And thanks for your service!
Thank you!!! and thank you for your support.
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