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Old 02-22-2011, 10:26 PM   #26
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If i was you i would go test drive both, as i own a 09 wrx i cant say anything about an Sti. Like said before, it all comes down to what you want. The wrx in stock form to me handled like crap, it was all fixed after Sways, bushings, coilovers, and brackets. As for the power, i was happy with stock but i got bored and did CAI, catback, ebcs, crosspipe and tune. Now i am very happy with the power. As for the brakes, right now the stock brakes suck. I was doing a mountain run and it started to get a bad vibration from the front, after the fluid cooled down it went away tho. So my next set of upgrades will be with the brakes. From what i see with what people do to their STIs is pretty much the same upgrades. If you wanna save money get an wrx, if you wanna have a track ready car with very little work needed to get it to a high level get an Sti (Stronger tranny, better hubs, DCCD, Brembos, HID, big wing, Diffs ) To me its worth the extra 10 grand. Its a very hard choice to make tho, you will have fun with which ever one you get.
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:32 PM   #27
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My car is gonna be a DD 99% of the time, with a little fun thrown in from time to time. I can always take the backroads on my way home from work. With that said, I won't run into a situation on the street where I'll need or take even the slightest advantage of the STI's hardware. That's why I chose the WRX, and in limited trim it gives me the little things I want such as HIDs and leather interior.

I plan on doing the small, yet effective mods on the WRX such as a tune/pads/fluid/sways/tires/ss; just enough to make it a little bit better, but not too much. I disliked the extra stiffness and noise from the STI if I were to use the car as a DD.
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Old 02-22-2011, 10:56 PM   #28
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If i was you i would go test drive both, as i own a 09 wrx i cant say anything about an Sti. Like said before, it all comes down to what you want. The wrx in stock form to me handled like crap, it was all fixed after Sways, bushings, coilovers, and brackets. As for the power, i was happy with stock but i got bored and did CAI, catback, ebcs, crosspipe and tune. Now i am very happy with the power. As for the brakes, right now the stock brakes suck. I was doing a mountain run and it started to get a bad vibration from the front, after the fluid cooled down it went away tho. So my next set of upgrades will be with the brakes. From what i see with what people do to their STIs is pretty much the same upgrades. If you wanna save money get an wrx, if you wanna have a track ready car with very little work needed to get it to a high level get an Sti (Stronger tranny, better hubs, DCCD, Brembos, HID, big wing, Diffs ) To me its worth the extra 10 grand. Its a very hard choice to make tho, you will have fun with which ever one you get.
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My car is gonna be a DD 99% of the time, with a little fun thrown in from time to time. I can always take the backroads on my way home from work. With that said, I won't run into a situation on the street where I'll need or take even the slightest advantage of the STI's hardware. That's why I chose the WRX, and in limited trim it gives me the little things I want such as HIDs and leather interior.

I plan on doing the small, yet effective mods on the WRX such as a tune/pads/fluid/sways/tires/ss; just enough to make it a little bit better, but not too much. I disliked the extra stiffness and noise from the STI if I were to use the car as a DD.
Based on these two I believe ill be checking out the STi. If I am going to buy a car and know that I want to do some work to it, what is the sense in taking a WRX and putting money into it to making it an STi. I would also love to start taking the car to the track or doing some off asphalt type stuff.
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:10 PM   #29
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Based on these two I believe ill be checking out the STi. If I am going to buy a car and know that I want to do some work to it, what is the sense in taking a WRX and putting money into it to making it an STi. I would also love to start taking the car to the track or doing some off asphalt type stuff.
I wouldn't be trying to make a WRX into an STI based on what I plan on doing to it. It's just an improvement in the stock hardware. It still won't be as good as an STI.

You're probably making the right choice with the STI since you plan on doing a few track events. For me the WRX will be a DD while if I want to track something I'll just buy an older Miata for a few thousand and put some money into it.
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:17 PM   #30
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yeah taking your brand new DD on a a track is not really the best idea in the world...lol

I plan to pick up some sort of weekend/track car one of these days...s2000 hopeflly
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:29 PM   #31
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yeah taking your brand new DD on a a track is not really the best idea in the world...lol

I plan to pick up some sort of weekend/track car one of these days...s2000 hopeflly
I do not mean a full blown race but I love spirited driving, love road trips, I am moving to a new area where there are plenty of exciting roads and if there were a an auto x or something I would be satisfied knowing at some point (when the new-ness wore off) I could give it a try.
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:31 PM   #32
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i think the sti is louder and less comfortable on road trips, also gets worse mpg, on the other hand its better for all the other stuff you mentioned..lol
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:34 PM   #33
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I disagree; the track is where the differences become apparent. I don't think you'll notice much of a difference when blasting up an on-ramp or a quick highway pull when no one's around.
agreed. the track is where the STi will shine. the WRX will start to brake fade pretty badly after a couple of corners, the STi will keep on rompin through.

I researched the hell out of it before pulling the trigger and came to the conclusion that the STi would be worth it if you intend to mod beyond stage 2, or if you track your car. not to say you can't have fun with the goodies the STi offers otherwise, those would just be the two scenarios where I could personally justify the cost. I couldn't justify it. oh well.

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Old 02-22-2011, 11:37 PM   #34
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the other thing about 09+ wrx's is that no one has a clear answer as to how much power the trannies can handle
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:46 PM   #35
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as if the evo/wrx debate wasnt hard enough now its the wrx/sti debate.
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:51 PM   #36
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i think the sti is louder and less comfortable on road trips, also gets worse mpg, on the other hand its better for all the other stuff you mentioned..lol
Yes, after driving the 2011 STI sedan I came to the same conclusion, I would really start to hate the car if I was driving it every day. My commute is 80 miles combined, so it wouldn't take long.
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well i think the bottom line is if you are going to take advantage of the sti's extra gizmos and you can afford it, then its the way to go, but it would make the choice more clear if subaru would bump it up to 350hp or so and it wasn't slower then the wrx in a strait line until 130mph which it gets to .2 seconds faster
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:55 PM   #38
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i wish I could just get the seats, hids and 6 speed..lol
STi seats still have all the suck of WRX seats, with fancier materials.

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the track is where the differences become apparent. I don't think you'll notice much of a difference when blasting up an on-ramp or a quick highway pull when no one's around.
That. If you're never going to frequent the track/HDPE/auto-x, the WRX is the best choice. It's quiet, as fast in straights, and gets far better MPG. Although, in reality, there are plenty of STi owners who just want to say, "Yeah? Well I have an S... T... I... brah"
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Yes, after driving the 2011 STI sedan I came to the same conclusion, I would really start to hate the car if I was driving it every day. My commute is 80 miles combined, so it wouldn't take long.
I didn't drive one because I don't want to know what I'm missing..lol
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Old 02-22-2011, 11:59 PM   #40
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STi seats still have all the suck of WRX seats, with fancier materials.



That. If you're never going to frequent the track/HDPE/auto-x, the WRX is the best choice. It's quiet, as fast in straights, and gets far better MPG. Although, in reality, there are plenty of STi owners who just want to say, "Yeah? Well I have an S... T... I... brah"
ehh the seats arent so bad. it was pretty comfortable for 250 miles last weekend. no worse then my G35.

I feel like a lot of people do just get the STI for the status. Anyone who is doing hellaflush stretched tires and slamming an STI isn't taking advantage of its handling advantages
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STi seats still have all the suck of WRX seats, with fancier materials.



That. If you're never going to frequent the track/HDPE/auto-x, the WRX is the best choice. It's quiet, as fast in straights, and gets far better MPG. Although, in reality, there are plenty of STi owners who just want to say, "Yeah? Well I have an S... T... I... brah"
So in your opinion spirited driving runs is not enough. Unless you are attending actual race events your better off in a WRX and saving the coin?
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i think it depends on how spirited the driving is. I personally don't generally induce much brake fade on public roads, but I know some people who do so really it all depends on how hard you are going to hit those back roads. also how much power you intend to make, how much having an extra gear matters to you etc
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Old 02-23-2011, 12:14 AM   #43
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TBH, I think the only reason I would buy an STi is simply to say I have one.

I dont think I would Daily Drive a car I ever intend to track regularly. simply beacause I would not drive it as hard knowing I have to drive it home.
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Unless you are attending actual race events your better off in a WRX and saving the coin?
from a strict financial standpoint, yes.

What it really comes down to is, what do YOU want and is it worth it to YOU. Don't make a decision based on the internets opinion, but rather what you feel is the best choice for your situation.
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the other thing about the sti is that in the mid 30k range where the sti is you are passing up a bunch of stuff that is much nicer or faster. the 135i starts at 36350, 412hp mustang gt starts just under 30k and for the price of the sti you can get the gt with the track pack, the VW golf R is coming out soon, might not be as fast as the sti, but it will be more refined. A lot of things to consider.
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the other thing about the sti is that in the mid 30k range where the sti is you are passing up a bunch of stuff that is much nicer or faster. the 135i starts at 36350, 412hp mustang gt starts just under 30k and for the price of the sti you can get the gt with the track pack, the VW golf R is coming out soon, might not be as fast as the sti, but it will be more refined. A lot of things to consider.

I agree but I need 4 doors with AWD, cant do the 2 door thing anymore. Also cant stand the look of just about any VW....thinking cap is on.
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Old 02-23-2011, 12:42 AM   #47
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I agree but I need 4 doors with AWD, cant do the 2 door thing anymore. Also cant stand the look of just about any VW....thinking cap is on.
Really? I think the VW GTI is awesome looking and kind of fun to drive. If they weren't so damn expensive, I would have bought one 3 years ago.
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they might have a 4 door golf R actually. but my point was in the mid 20s you can't do a whole lot better then the wrx but in the mid 30s you have more choices
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this thread reeks bias... it is oozing.. this is like v6 and v8 mustang.. the v6 said to the v8, but but but... I get better mileage and I am 300 lbs lighter...

when reading these posts, make sure you are looking at what vehicles they drive and take "bias" into consideration.
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I think your post implies more bias ours do actually, we are giving reasons why one would get either car, where as you just replaced the wrx with a v6 and sti with a v8 and you are basically saying your car is the one to pick in a round about manor

there are a lot of reasons to pick the V6 over the V8 now, and both were faster then the STI around VIR, the V6 might have been close to the V8 if not for the speed limiter. if gas goes up to $6 a gallon v6 mustang owners are going to look pretty smart with their 31mpg and 305hp
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